Dear Friends,
How do we handle situations where people arrive late for work and at times have to also stay late without being compensated in any form.
When any action, a mere chat with such late comers, is taken, their counter argument is .... "what happens when we stay late?"
Can we discuss this very common problem and arrive at a useful conclusion which I am sure will benefit many of us members.
Vasant Nair
From India, Mumbai
90How do we handle situations where people arrive late for work and at times have to also stay late without being compensated in any form.
When any action, a mere chat with such late comers, is taken, their counter argument is .... "what happens when we stay late?"
Can we discuss this very common problem and arrive at a useful conclusion which I am sure will benefit many of us members.
Vasant Nair
From India, Mumbai
Mr.nair
Introduce this rule:
1. 3 lates/Month allowable( 15 mins) - more than this cut 1/2 day salary but be sure you will give letter and get permission from the employee before deduction of salary.
2. 2 permission / month allowable(1 hr)
From India, Madras
Introduce this rule:
1. 3 lates/Month allowable( 15 mins) - more than this cut 1/2 day salary but be sure you will give letter and get permission from the employee before deduction of salary.
2. 2 permission / month allowable(1 hr)
From India, Madras
Dear Vasant,
If you have a certified standing order then their must be a provision for penalising late comers, in a company employee who stay late they must be compansated with overtime allowances.
regards,
sumit kumar saxena
From India, Ghaziabad
If you have a certified standing order then their must be a provision for penalising late comers, in a company employee who stay late they must be compansated with overtime allowances.
regards,
sumit kumar saxena
From India, Ghaziabad
Dear Vasanth,
I think penalising an employee for late coming should be the last option. You should tell them that coming to office on time is discipline and going late from office is responsibility.
In fact if you study the trend of late comers, there will be a set of employees who are habitual late comers. These employees should be counselled for discipline.
As regards to employees staying late, you should first understand why people are staying late. If late staying is genuine, then you might suitably reward at the time of annual performance review.
Cheers,
Shekar
From India, Bangalore
I think penalising an employee for late coming should be the last option. You should tell them that coming to office on time is discipline and going late from office is responsibility.
In fact if you study the trend of late comers, there will be a set of employees who are habitual late comers. These employees should be counselled for discipline.
As regards to employees staying late, you should first understand why people are staying late. If late staying is genuine, then you might suitably reward at the time of annual performance review.
Cheers,
Shekar
From India, Bangalore
Dear Vasanth,
As our friends mentioned better display a notice that in a month 3 late comings are allowed and the total allowaable late coming should not be more than 1/2 hr. Any employee can come late to a maximum of 1/2 hr at one shot or distributed in 3 times.
After 1/2 hr you should deduct 1/2 day salary.
People staying beyond their working hours need to be looked in to. There are so many reasons behind, the HOD need to look in to the same, the employees are over loaded or they are meeting the time lines, the lesser manpower etc., hence the HOD is the right person to look in to hence take the HODs in to confidnance and act.
On monthly basis display the list of late comers in first month in the notice board, send individual communication through HODs and at the same time once again display the notice about the laid down rules and regulations of the company. All the employees who are staying back after their normal office hours are to be councelled and found out the reasons there of.
regards - kameswarao
From India, Hyderabad
As our friends mentioned better display a notice that in a month 3 late comings are allowed and the total allowaable late coming should not be more than 1/2 hr. Any employee can come late to a maximum of 1/2 hr at one shot or distributed in 3 times.
After 1/2 hr you should deduct 1/2 day salary.
People staying beyond their working hours need to be looked in to. There are so many reasons behind, the HOD need to look in to the same, the employees are over loaded or they are meeting the time lines, the lesser manpower etc., hence the HOD is the right person to look in to hence take the HODs in to confidnance and act.
On monthly basis display the list of late comers in first month in the notice board, send individual communication through HODs and at the same time once again display the notice about the laid down rules and regulations of the company. All the employees who are staying back after their normal office hours are to be councelled and found out the reasons there of.
regards - kameswarao
From India, Hyderabad
Rules are rules.If you want to penalise an employee for late coming then you must have a rule for rewarding him for overstaying.They will automatically start following the system but you got to have some system.
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Dear Vasant Nair,
Do check with the below link. Hope that might be useful.
http://citehr.com#post1040731
From India, Bangalore
Do check with the below link. Hope that might be useful.
http://citehr.com#post1040731
From India, Bangalore
Dear Mr.Vasant Nair, Habitual late attendance may attract disciplinary as per Model Standing Orders. They are valid in absence of certified Standing Orders.
From India, Jaipur
From India, Jaipur
hi there, for me good employee relations goes a long way. it is no point penalising employees for coming late if you let them stay late without any form of compensation. one way of doing is to talk to your employees about late coming and reinforce the rules that late coming is not accpetable and should an employee be late then he/she will be subjected to disciplinary measures by the same breadth you need to come up with a win-win solution on what the company will do once employees stay late i.e. allowing them to come a little late the following morning or some time off for days worked late but this must work for both sides.
From South Africa, Johannesburg
From South Africa, Johannesburg
Hey All,
Punctuality is essence to all success and this goes also well with employees working hours time. Its very important that the employee are made aware and respect the companies working hours. Managers and Management staff need to adhere to it seriously and so will the employee down the line.
Other thought, every company works in different working condition and business model and its important that the working hours are designed accordingly. Staggered shift are common in software/designing companies where the actual working hours of the employee can be calculated on hourly basis rather days, since the work is more defined based on completion of particular project which is time-based. You need to have a proper swipe-recoding machine for such process if adopted.
All also I agree with kameswarao advice about involving the HOD for late sitting issues, as this an excuse an employee is using for late coming and will have an impact on other staff who are punctual and also attract bias treatment allegation on management.
Regards,
Ukmitra
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Punctuality is essence to all success and this goes also well with employees working hours time. Its very important that the employee are made aware and respect the companies working hours. Managers and Management staff need to adhere to it seriously and so will the employee down the line.
Other thought, every company works in different working condition and business model and its important that the working hours are designed accordingly. Staggered shift are common in software/designing companies where the actual working hours of the employee can be calculated on hourly basis rather days, since the work is more defined based on completion of particular project which is time-based. You need to have a proper swipe-recoding machine for such process if adopted.
All also I agree with kameswarao advice about involving the HOD for late sitting issues, as this an excuse an employee is using for late coming and will have an impact on other staff who are punctual and also attract bias treatment allegation on management.
Regards,
Ukmitra
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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