HIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Every body,
Its after a long time i am writing to the forum.
i am working as HR Manager in an education institute.
when i take interview as ask to the candidate whats ur CTC and ask him to give any proof they usually refuses,
actuall this is trend in education sector that they dont provide salary slip .
its becoming head ace to me .hiw to find what exect salary that perticular person is drawing.
can ask him to give bank statement?????
even some of the colleges dont provide increment letter.
recently i interviwed a candidate ,he commited that he is getting 21500/- PM . but his appointment letter was carring 15000 pm figur . i questione , he replyed i got increment and institute has not given increment letter.
i an help less.
please suggest what to do in that case.
Regards,
Himani
From India, Jaipur
1Its after a long time i am writing to the forum.
i am working as HR Manager in an education institute.
when i take interview as ask to the candidate whats ur CTC and ask him to give any proof they usually refuses,
actuall this is trend in education sector that they dont provide salary slip .
its becoming head ace to me .hiw to find what exect salary that perticular person is drawing.
can ask him to give bank statement?????
even some of the colleges dont provide increment letter.
recently i interviwed a candidate ,he commited that he is getting 21500/- PM . but his appointment letter was carring 15000 pm figur . i questione , he replyed i got increment and institute has not given increment letter.
i an help less.
please suggest what to do in that case.
Regards,
Himani
From India, Jaipur
Hi Himani,
You can ask them to submit the appointment letter copy to see the salary offered to them at the time of joining.
Also ask them to submit the Bank Statement of that Bank where their salary is credited for the period when they got the increment.
e.g Suppose he got the increment in Oct 07 then ask for the Bank Statement for the period July 07 to Dec 07. You will get the required infomation.
Hope I have clarified your query.
AMATYA
You can ask them to submit the appointment letter copy to see the salary offered to them at the time of joining.
Also ask them to submit the Bank Statement of that Bank where their salary is credited for the period when they got the increment.
e.g Suppose he got the increment in Oct 07 then ask for the Bank Statement for the period July 07 to Dec 07. You will get the required infomation.
Hope I have clarified your query.
AMATYA
Hello Himani,
Today salary proof is very important. So you can ask for bank statement. and candidate also summit the offer letter or joining letter. Today candidates are expert to make fake salary proof so bank statement is a good and true option.
Jyoti Gupta
From India, Gurgaon
Today salary proof is very important. So you can ask for bank statement. and candidate also summit the offer letter or joining letter. Today candidates are expert to make fake salary proof so bank statement is a good and true option.
Jyoti Gupta
From India, Gurgaon
First of all.........Nice Question.....as we all r facing the same in the same way or other........
we all know the saying of Great Nepolian......'Nothing is impossible in this world.'.............aaj hum sab ne soft skill ke itne seminar attend kiye he ki.............impossible bechare word ki to vaat lag gai he....aur woh ban gaya he.....i m possible......right :wink: :wink: :wink:
Now come to the point.........See if we ask for an appointment letter or a bank statement..........then i should focus on one danger point......one can modify an appointment letter with the help of scanner.........and make it all new.....
Same way......now we have a computer generated bank statements where the signature is not required..... then one can modify it easily...........
One more thing we can ask.....is........a copy of an Income Tax return...... but we are not sure......k......usek saath bhi koi chhed chhad nahi hui.......
I think the best idea is to cross check it with his organisation.....immediately after completion of an interview..... if we wish him to appoint 10% bhi....so he will not have time to share his experience with others........and we will get the truth......... :wink: :wink: :) :)
What do u think????
From India, Mumbai
we all know the saying of Great Nepolian......'Nothing is impossible in this world.'.............aaj hum sab ne soft skill ke itne seminar attend kiye he ki.............impossible bechare word ki to vaat lag gai he....aur woh ban gaya he.....i m possible......right :wink: :wink: :wink:
Now come to the point.........See if we ask for an appointment letter or a bank statement..........then i should focus on one danger point......one can modify an appointment letter with the help of scanner.........and make it all new.....
Same way......now we have a computer generated bank statements where the signature is not required..... then one can modify it easily...........
One more thing we can ask.....is........a copy of an Income Tax return...... but we are not sure......k......usek saath bhi koi chhed chhad nahi hui.......
I think the best idea is to cross check it with his organisation.....immediately after completion of an interview..... if we wish him to appoint 10% bhi....so he will not have time to share his experience with others........and we will get the truth......... :wink: :wink: :) :)
What do u think????
From India, Mumbai
Hi Himani,
Very well suggested by others..
Apart from Salary statement, can ask for salary certificate as well.. if not carrying the salary slip.. and yes, well suggested by Viral.. Cross-check with their present employer in a short while after the interview..
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
Very well suggested by others..
Apart from Salary statement, can ask for salary certificate as well.. if not carrying the salary slip.. and yes, well suggested by Viral.. Cross-check with their present employer in a short while after the interview..
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
I am into recruitment and have a couple of clients in the education sector. Our clients had a similar situation - we resolved this by informing the candidates they would have to submit a declaration for any part of salary for which they were unable to provide evidence and that the declaration would be subsequently checked with their previous employer through the verification agency. That has largely resolved the situation.
Warm regards
Kalyan
From India, Bangalore
Warm regards
Kalyan
From India, Bangalore
First question: Why do you want current salary? Anyway, don't be surprised with this question as all companies want this information because of just one reason - To see if they can give higher salary than the person's current salary.
Unfortunately, the benchmarking has started happening on the so called "current salary" rather than internal and pre-decided salary range / scales (i.e. sticking to our guns). And this has started creating salary imbalances in the industry as a whole.
Now every candidate realizes that if his current salary is low, he will get low hike as an offer as most of the companies has capped a %age hike over the so called current salary. Hence, if a person with 3 year exp. gets 4 lakhs, he can get 5 lakhs. But for the same position, if a person's current salary is 2 lakhs, he will get 3 lakhs. So rather than ensuring parity, we are creating disparities within the same team / organization leading to not very positive consequences.
So candidates have started boosting their current salaries as they know the tricks employes by organizations to fix their offer salary.
Hence, as a HR person can you dare to say that as per your capabilities and our requirements, you may offer a amount abc rather than I give you x + your current salary.
Anyway, the answer to your question is "current bank statement". (Please note that in US it is illegal to ask for this info though perfectly legal in India as this has not been challenged in the courts in India)
Unfortunately, the benchmarking has started happening on the so called "current salary" rather than internal and pre-decided salary range / scales (i.e. sticking to our guns). And this has started creating salary imbalances in the industry as a whole.
Now every candidate realizes that if his current salary is low, he will get low hike as an offer as most of the companies has capped a %age hike over the so called current salary. Hence, if a person with 3 year exp. gets 4 lakhs, he can get 5 lakhs. But for the same position, if a person's current salary is 2 lakhs, he will get 3 lakhs. So rather than ensuring parity, we are creating disparities within the same team / organization leading to not very positive consequences.
So candidates have started boosting their current salaries as they know the tricks employes by organizations to fix their offer salary.
Hence, as a HR person can you dare to say that as per your capabilities and our requirements, you may offer a amount abc rather than I give you x + your current salary.
Anyway, the answer to your question is "current bank statement". (Please note that in US it is illegal to ask for this info though perfectly legal in India as this has not been challenged in the courts in India)
Hello himini,
Thsi may be a bit problematci if the annual salary claimed to be is below rs.110000(non taxable limit).Else above this companies are expected to provide FORM16 o employees enable them file their returns.
So ask for a copy of the last FORM16 used by the candidate for filing the returns.you will get a clear picture of the salry breakups in there
Thsi may be a bit problematci if the annual salary claimed to be is below rs.110000(non taxable limit).Else above this companies are expected to provide FORM16 o employees enable them file their returns.
So ask for a copy of the last FORM16 used by the candidate for filing the returns.you will get a clear picture of the salry breakups in there
Dear all
When u r searching for a required candidate qualification / experience and interviewing them once u check with their ability why u require a previous employers salary certificate. Anyhow u r going to put them on salary with regard to yr company's standard. I dont u'stand why this is an important when u get a talent person. My argument is right ?
kantha
From India, Madras
When u r searching for a required candidate qualification / experience and interviewing them once u check with their ability why u require a previous employers salary certificate. Anyhow u r going to put them on salary with regard to yr company's standard. I dont u'stand why this is an important when u get a talent person. My argument is right ?
kantha
From India, Madras
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