Hi experts,
I appreciate all of you for giving me suggestions. I would like to add that salary proof is required because there is huge competition in the education sector. If anybody is getting 20k, he will tell you 25k. And as demand is high and supply is low, he has to give a good hike in his salary. But if we know his correct salary, we can give him a hike in an appropriate manner and we may be able to maintain decorum in our department regarding salary matters because salary is a very sensitive issue that may hurt old employees of the institute.
What do you say?
From India, Jaipur
1I appreciate all of you for giving me suggestions. I would like to add that salary proof is required because there is huge competition in the education sector. If anybody is getting 20k, he will tell you 25k. And as demand is high and supply is low, he has to give a good hike in his salary. But if we know his correct salary, we can give him a hike in an appropriate manner and we may be able to maintain decorum in our department regarding salary matters because salary is a very sensitive issue that may hurt old employees of the institute.
What do you say?
From India, Jaipur
yes offcourse , i asked for bank statment & appointment letter but asking for bank statment is rit ???????????????????????? plzzzz suggest himani
From India, Jaipur
From India, Jaipur
Hi,
I agree with Verma (vaverma). Why ask for last salary?
I am a firm believer in offering what we should offer and what we can afford to offer. A bank statement... as rightly pointed out, it is illegal in the US and unethical in India. If an organization is paying certain amounts in vouchers, how do you get that figure in a bank statement?
During senior management negotiation, I request the IT return. In any case, we need to obtain it if they are to join us. There is nothing illegal about it. I also inform them that if there is no proof, we do not accept it. Furthermore, we are generally aware of certain practices regarding voucher payments in some companies.
At a lower level, I believe we should forget about what they were previously earning. We have a policy and offer that works. Initially, there may be some teething problems, but it works.
This is my view on this subject.
To respond to your query, I would say it is a combination of many things that will help you:
- Appointment letter
- Assume an 8 to 10% increase every year if there have been no increment letters
- PF statements if available
- IT returns
- Cross-checking
Siva
From India, Chennai
I agree with Verma (vaverma). Why ask for last salary?
I am a firm believer in offering what we should offer and what we can afford to offer. A bank statement... as rightly pointed out, it is illegal in the US and unethical in India. If an organization is paying certain amounts in vouchers, how do you get that figure in a bank statement?
During senior management negotiation, I request the IT return. In any case, we need to obtain it if they are to join us. There is nothing illegal about it. I also inform them that if there is no proof, we do not accept it. Furthermore, we are generally aware of certain practices regarding voucher payments in some companies.
At a lower level, I believe we should forget about what they were previously earning. We have a policy and offer that works. Initially, there may be some teething problems, but it works.
This is my view on this subject.
To respond to your query, I would say it is a combination of many things that will help you:
- Appointment letter
- Assume an 8 to 10% increase every year if there have been no increment letters
- PF statements if available
- IT returns
- Cross-checking
Siva
From India, Chennai
Remember that you are poaching an employee from another company. Will any company accept losing their employee? One of my friends' management called him and showed him the verification email where that person had attended the interview. The management told him that they are going to send a negative reply to that verification email. If he tries to leave the company, they will not provide a relieving letter and could potentially harm his future prospects.
The same management has also done this to other ex-employees of that company. For one of its employees, they told the HR department (where he attended the interview) that there was no one by that name in the company. Typically, in such situations, HR wouldn't contact the employee. However, the HR was a friend of that employee, and he provided some proof that he had worked in that company, which later resulted in him receiving an offer.
This is the way many companies are threatening their employees to retain them.
Note that the salary is also very low in that company. People with 2 years of experience are paid only Rs. 9000 to Rs. 11500, whereas it should be Rs. 25,000 to Rs. 30,000. Many employees have their lunch at roadside shops for Rs. 15-20 to save money to send to their parents.
I don't understand how the current employer would provide real data to their competitor. While many big companies are honest with their employees, what about companies like the one I mentioned above?
From India, Bangalore
The same management has also done this to other ex-employees of that company. For one of its employees, they told the HR department (where he attended the interview) that there was no one by that name in the company. Typically, in such situations, HR wouldn't contact the employee. However, the HR was a friend of that employee, and he provided some proof that he had worked in that company, which later resulted in him receiving an offer.
This is the way many companies are threatening their employees to retain them.
Note that the salary is also very low in that company. People with 2 years of experience are paid only Rs. 9000 to Rs. 11500, whereas it should be Rs. 25,000 to Rs. 30,000. Many employees have their lunch at roadside shops for Rs. 15-20 to save money to send to their parents.
I don't understand how the current employer would provide real data to their competitor. While many big companies are honest with their employees, what about companies like the one I mentioned above?
From India, Bangalore
Dear Himani,
The problem you have mentioned is mostly in the unorganized or manufacturing sector. The best way to resolve this in the most convincing manner is to ask for the Form 16 of the last year. Once it is not available, and you positively want to hire the candidate, do a background check with the parent organization. Hope these methods help.
Thanking you, Nihar Ranjan Panigrahi Dy. Manager - HR 09329445004
From India, Indore
The problem you have mentioned is mostly in the unorganized or manufacturing sector. The best way to resolve this in the most convincing manner is to ask for the Form 16 of the last year. Once it is not available, and you positively want to hire the candidate, do a background check with the parent organization. Hope these methods help.
Thanking you, Nihar Ranjan Panigrahi Dy. Manager - HR 09329445004
From India, Indore
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