Hi All,
I have just joined a company in December. Now the situation is that I have to leave the company due to some family problems. I have talked to HR personnel here, but she told me that I will be blacklisted from the company because I am leaving in just 1 month. Can anyone tell me if my case will be considered for blacklisting? It is clearly written in the offer letter that anyone can leave after giving a 1-month notice or pay 1 month's basic salary in lieu of the notice period. I am ready to pay one month of basic salary even though I have not yet received my first salary.
Kindly suggest me.
Thanks in advance.
From India, Delhi
I have just joined a company in December. Now the situation is that I have to leave the company due to some family problems. I have talked to HR personnel here, but she told me that I will be blacklisted from the company because I am leaving in just 1 month. Can anyone tell me if my case will be considered for blacklisting? It is clearly written in the offer letter that anyone can leave after giving a 1-month notice or pay 1 month's basic salary in lieu of the notice period. I am ready to pay one month of basic salary even though I have not yet received my first salary.
Kindly suggest me.
Thanks in advance.
From India, Delhi
Dear anujtechnet,
Some companies use to frame their HR policies in such a manner that if an employee leaves the company, he/she will be blacklisted and will never be able to return to the company. To the best of my knowledge, TCS, TELCO, and TATA MOTORS are among them.
On the other side, there are some companies nowadays that are recruiting ex-employees who have previously left, such as ONGC, GAIL, NTPC, etc.
As you mentioned that you have not received your first salary and are facing family problems, it may be better to talk to HR and request some time off to resolve your family issues if possible in a few days or months. When the HR informs you about the possibility of being blacklisted, she may also be able to seek management's assistance for your situation.
Otherwise, I do not think a company like TCS would only consider the 1-month notice pay; you can leave TCS at any time by paying the 1-month notice.
Regards,
Jawed Alam
From India, Dhanbad
Some companies use to frame their HR policies in such a manner that if an employee leaves the company, he/she will be blacklisted and will never be able to return to the company. To the best of my knowledge, TCS, TELCO, and TATA MOTORS are among them.
On the other side, there are some companies nowadays that are recruiting ex-employees who have previously left, such as ONGC, GAIL, NTPC, etc.
As you mentioned that you have not received your first salary and are facing family problems, it may be better to talk to HR and request some time off to resolve your family issues if possible in a few days or months. When the HR informs you about the possibility of being blacklisted, she may also be able to seek management's assistance for your situation.
Otherwise, I do not think a company like TCS would only consider the 1-month notice pay; you can leave TCS at any time by paying the 1-month notice.
Regards,
Jawed Alam
From India, Dhanbad
Hi Jawed,
Thanks for your response. My problem is that I want to continue working with my company, but the current situation does not allow me to do so. I would like to know why the issue of blacklisting arises if a company has specified leaving policies (such as notice period or basic salary). Additionally, since the project has not been allocated to me yet, there is no financial loss or project impact. Please suggest the best course of action to minimize any losses for me.
Thanks.
From India, Delhi
Thanks for your response. My problem is that I want to continue working with my company, but the current situation does not allow me to do so. I would like to know why the issue of blacklisting arises if a company has specified leaving policies (such as notice period or basic salary). Additionally, since the project has not been allocated to me yet, there is no financial loss or project impact. Please suggest the best course of action to minimize any losses for me.
Thanks.
From India, Delhi
Hello anujtechnet,
I think there's some missing link in what you mentioned. Even though companies like TCS have a blacklisting policy - whether explicit or implicit - I don't think any company would go to that extent without very concrete/specific reasons, especially in the circumstances you mentioned. If what you mentioned is true and COMPLETE, it looks like you haven't conveyed your problem very clearly to the HR. Frankly, in fact, I suspect the worst-case scenario: your reason for family problems seems to have created a suspicion that you are only giving an alibi. Have you shown any evidence or at least given the details to HR?
In the given situation, you need to discuss thoroughly with HR. Else, things could only get more complicated. One option is what Jawed Alam suggested - ask for time/leave to solve your problems. If need be, be prepared to give some sort of an undertaking.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I think there's some missing link in what you mentioned. Even though companies like TCS have a blacklisting policy - whether explicit or implicit - I don't think any company would go to that extent without very concrete/specific reasons, especially in the circumstances you mentioned. If what you mentioned is true and COMPLETE, it looks like you haven't conveyed your problem very clearly to the HR. Frankly, in fact, I suspect the worst-case scenario: your reason for family problems seems to have created a suspicion that you are only giving an alibi. Have you shown any evidence or at least given the details to HR?
In the given situation, you need to discuss thoroughly with HR. Else, things could only get more complicated. One option is what Jawed Alam suggested - ask for time/leave to solve your problems. If need be, be prepared to give some sort of an undertaking.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Even though the company has not allotted the project to you, they have incurred a training cost on you. However, if the policy says that anyone can leave given a month's notice period and if you have done that, I don't think this must be a problem for you. But some companies don't relieve their employees so easily since they don't find the replacement so easily. You can explain to your HR that you will leave when they find a substitute for you. By the time, work out a plan where you can tackle your family issues for some more time. Be polite with your HR. They are there to solve employee grievances and not harm your career. To convince your HR depends on your skills. Use the best of it. Explain in such a way that she really understands your problem. Be as transparent as possible.
All the best!!!!!!!
From India, Mumbai
All the best!!!!!!!
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
Blacklist is an internal policy independent of notice or employment terms. It is perfectly valid since it is used for the internal purpose of deciding whether to employ you in the future. You cannot claim that it harms your career.
In any case, the blacklist is correct. While my firm does not have a blacklist, we also do not rehire anyone who leaves after a short stint. Recruitment costs are high, and opportunity costs are even higher. Do you think the company will bother to spend expensive time on the recruitment team and functional managers on an interview again after you wasted their time in the first round by leaving within a month? Your leaving could skew their manpower planning.
That said, TCS is a very employee-centric company. If you had valid reasons and asked for time off or delayed join time, it would be granted. If these are predictable reasons, on the other hand, you should not have taken the job.
(My cousin was given close to 1 month paid leave to attend her mother in the hospital within a quarter of joining her new job - not in TCS though)
From India, Mumbai
Blacklist is an internal policy independent of notice or employment terms. It is perfectly valid since it is used for the internal purpose of deciding whether to employ you in the future. You cannot claim that it harms your career.
In any case, the blacklist is correct. While my firm does not have a blacklist, we also do not rehire anyone who leaves after a short stint. Recruitment costs are high, and opportunity costs are even higher. Do you think the company will bother to spend expensive time on the recruitment team and functional managers on an interview again after you wasted their time in the first round by leaving within a month? Your leaving could skew their manpower planning.
That said, TCS is a very employee-centric company. If you had valid reasons and asked for time off or delayed join time, it would be granted. If these are predictable reasons, on the other hand, you should not have taken the job.
(My cousin was given close to 1 month paid leave to attend her mother in the hospital within a quarter of joining her new job - not in TCS though)
From India, Mumbai
Please help me.
Dear Senior,
I am Pravin facing some problems regarding Worker Overtime (OT) and Leave Records. I am uncertain about how overtime pay should be handled for workers. Currently, I only pay wages for working days at the company and deduct Provident Fund (P.F) contributions on these days only. I do not deduct P.F for weekends or overtime. Therefore, I kindly request your suggestions on how to manage overtime payments. Additionally, the management does not approve leave for workers exceeding one year of service.
Regards,
Pravin
From India, Surat
Dear Senior,
I am Pravin facing some problems regarding Worker Overtime (OT) and Leave Records. I am uncertain about how overtime pay should be handled for workers. Currently, I only pay wages for working days at the company and deduct Provident Fund (P.F) contributions on these days only. I do not deduct P.F for weekends or overtime. Therefore, I kindly request your suggestions on how to manage overtime payments. Additionally, the management does not approve leave for workers exceeding one year of service.
Regards,
Pravin
From India, Surat
Hi, According to your case replace any one from your end only, as he must be that much capable like YOU. Regards, Jayachandra
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Just a suggestion - as much as possible, we should put up our queries and suggestions without mentioning company names. I feel it creates an impression, even when discussing their policies. This is just a personal opinion...
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
If you are leaving a company with proper notice, they cannot blacklist you. This may be to make you stay in the company. If she has recruited you in the company, she will be asked for the reason for such a hire. If she is not your recruiter, then have a solution-oriented talk with her and understand the problem from them and come to any conclusion. If working from home is possible for you, then discuss it with them.
Regards,
Mukesh
From India, Mumbai
Regards,
Mukesh
From India, Mumbai
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