Hi,
It is very sad that an individual who had slogged to achieve everything for herself and her family died a horrible death. I sincerely pray that God gives the strength to the family to bear the loss. An incident that turned their world upside down.
Which direction is our society heading? All are pointing fingers at each other; men are blaming women, and vice versa. Don't you think it has to be stopped, and we have to sit and do some soul searching? Why don't we try to find the root cause of the problem?
India is considered a land of Goddesses, Durga, and Devi, and today the same Durga is butchered. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
We say all are equal, but is it so? Inequality begins at home; in most households, when a girl is born, they mourn, but if it is a boy, there is jubilation. Parents try to fulfill all the wishes of their son, whereas a girl is asked to compromise. Here, we sow the seed of superiority among men. They get the feeling they are mighty and can get whatever they want.
I want to clarify that what I have said is happening in the majority of families, but there are some families where all are considered equal. I was lucky enough to be born into such a family. We were taught that all are equal and should be respected regardless of gender. We all had the right to express our opinions and have a say in all matters.
Every family should start following this at home and instill this ideology in kids at a very young age.
I do agree we have to change the law and give severe punishment to the people who indulge in such acts, or in cases where acid is thrown on victims, so that it is not repeated.
Apart from that, I want to say one thing that most women will not agree with, but these are some facts of life: avoid going out late at night if not necessary. Dress in what you are comfortable in, but avoid revealing dresses; that is not a sign of equality. Equality means being able to achieve your own goals in life. You may have been born in a family where all are considered equal, but he may not be. Always remember, men don't have anything to lose; Nirbhaya's family has lost their daughter.
Regards,
Anita
From India, Mumbai
128It is very sad that an individual who had slogged to achieve everything for herself and her family died a horrible death. I sincerely pray that God gives the strength to the family to bear the loss. An incident that turned their world upside down.
Which direction is our society heading? All are pointing fingers at each other; men are blaming women, and vice versa. Don't you think it has to be stopped, and we have to sit and do some soul searching? Why don't we try to find the root cause of the problem?
India is considered a land of Goddesses, Durga, and Devi, and today the same Durga is butchered. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
We say all are equal, but is it so? Inequality begins at home; in most households, when a girl is born, they mourn, but if it is a boy, there is jubilation. Parents try to fulfill all the wishes of their son, whereas a girl is asked to compromise. Here, we sow the seed of superiority among men. They get the feeling they are mighty and can get whatever they want.
I want to clarify that what I have said is happening in the majority of families, but there are some families where all are considered equal. I was lucky enough to be born into such a family. We were taught that all are equal and should be respected regardless of gender. We all had the right to express our opinions and have a say in all matters.
Every family should start following this at home and instill this ideology in kids at a very young age.
I do agree we have to change the law and give severe punishment to the people who indulge in such acts, or in cases where acid is thrown on victims, so that it is not repeated.
Apart from that, I want to say one thing that most women will not agree with, but these are some facts of life: avoid going out late at night if not necessary. Dress in what you are comfortable in, but avoid revealing dresses; that is not a sign of equality. Equality means being able to achieve your own goals in life. You may have been born in a family where all are considered equal, but he may not be. Always remember, men don't have anything to lose; Nirbhaya's family has lost their daughter.
Regards,
Anita
From India, Mumbai
I AM SORRY MOM I CAN'T FIGHT MORE
(CRY OF A RAPE VICTIM)......
I still remember mom when once you and dad asked me what I need to do in my life I replied you I will reduce the pain of other’s people and I became a physiotherapist so that I can try my level best to reduce the pain of others.
But today I am not able to resist my own pain.
Doctors are slashing my body parts for the fifth time like they were never the parts of my body…it is paining a lot mom I am not able to breathe properly and they attached me with oxygen cap. please tell the doctors not to give me the anesthesia mom.
I am scared I don’t want to close my eyes. If I close my eyes it takes me to that scary phase of my life where I was being cut into pieces I was just bunch of flesh which was being continuously chopped by those animals. Those faces were very scary mom they were like those hungry animals who were biting at every parts of my body.
I don’t have courage to look myself in the mirror.
Mom please break all the mirrors
nearby me. Pls take me to bath. I
want to bath. I want to sit under the shower for years mom so that I can wash those inhuman touch which has made me hate my own body.
I tried to go towards bathroom but my stomach pain didn’t allow me to move myself.
I can’t raise my head to see you
standing outside through door glass.
When someone enter in my room I feel very scared mom. my heartbeats gets faster my eyes searches for you. please be around me. I don’t want to be alone.
Mom these medical instrument beeps are haunting in my brain. they sound like those unhelping traffic sounds which muted my cry and pleads which I was doing that time mom. The silence of this room reminds me of that silence when I was thrown on deserted road. I don’t know what happened but I was feeling very much cold the same way like a person shivering with very high temperature. Mom do you remember once when dad slapped me in childhood how much you fought with him until dad didn't bring my favorite chocolate…Where is dad, mom?
I can’t see him...is he ok mom ???
Please don’t let him cry mom. Do you remember once how dad got angry on you when you used to shout on me for anything?
They have beaten me and my dearest friend with some metal. It was paining a lot mom. I saw how he was bleeding to save me but they were coward rascals. They kept on beating him together till he didn't collapse and then they scratched every parts of my body repeatedly mom.
You always taught me to fight with the difficult situations but I am
very weak in this situation. please hold my hand.
I want to sleep please put my head in your lap.
Please wash my body.
Give me some pain killer my stomach is paining.
Please tell doctor not to cut more parts of my body. its paining a lot.
I am sorry mom I can’t fight
more..!
From India, Indore
(CRY OF A RAPE VICTIM)......
I still remember mom when once you and dad asked me what I need to do in my life I replied you I will reduce the pain of other’s people and I became a physiotherapist so that I can try my level best to reduce the pain of others.
But today I am not able to resist my own pain.
Doctors are slashing my body parts for the fifth time like they were never the parts of my body…it is paining a lot mom I am not able to breathe properly and they attached me with oxygen cap. please tell the doctors not to give me the anesthesia mom.
I am scared I don’t want to close my eyes. If I close my eyes it takes me to that scary phase of my life where I was being cut into pieces I was just bunch of flesh which was being continuously chopped by those animals. Those faces were very scary mom they were like those hungry animals who were biting at every parts of my body.
I don’t have courage to look myself in the mirror.
Mom please break all the mirrors
nearby me. Pls take me to bath. I
want to bath. I want to sit under the shower for years mom so that I can wash those inhuman touch which has made me hate my own body.
I tried to go towards bathroom but my stomach pain didn’t allow me to move myself.
I can’t raise my head to see you
standing outside through door glass.
When someone enter in my room I feel very scared mom. my heartbeats gets faster my eyes searches for you. please be around me. I don’t want to be alone.
Mom these medical instrument beeps are haunting in my brain. they sound like those unhelping traffic sounds which muted my cry and pleads which I was doing that time mom. The silence of this room reminds me of that silence when I was thrown on deserted road. I don’t know what happened but I was feeling very much cold the same way like a person shivering with very high temperature. Mom do you remember once when dad slapped me in childhood how much you fought with him until dad didn't bring my favorite chocolate…Where is dad, mom?
I can’t see him...is he ok mom ???
Please don’t let him cry mom. Do you remember once how dad got angry on you when you used to shout on me for anything?
They have beaten me and my dearest friend with some metal. It was paining a lot mom. I saw how he was bleeding to save me but they were coward rascals. They kept on beating him together till he didn't collapse and then they scratched every parts of my body repeatedly mom.
You always taught me to fight with the difficult situations but I am
very weak in this situation. please hold my hand.
I want to sleep please put my head in your lap.
Please wash my body.
Give me some pain killer my stomach is paining.
Please tell doctor not to cut more parts of my body. its paining a lot.
I am sorry mom I can’t fight
more..!
From India, Indore
Dear Mr. Ramanarg,
I sincerely appreciate you for engaging in this impartial argument/discussion. Especially on topics like this that are so sensitive, and with the events taking place today, I fear that our youth are idealistic in pushing this issue to the forefront of government attention.
In addressing this problem, there are two possible approaches - one is social, and the other is legal.
I strongly support those advocating for stringent laws and their strict enforcement whenever such situations arise with any offender. However, I believe it will take a considerable amount of time to convince our political leaders, who often assert their dominance over the electorate. The laws and punishments should be so severe that the mere thought of committing such crimes again becomes inconceivable. Despite being a country known for love and affection, lawbreakers should not be handled with leniency. The purpose of imprisonment was initially to reform offenders, but it has unfortunately turned into a breeding ground for more criminals. Many of our elected officials are in power not by virtue of the votes but by instilling fear among the voting public like us. Therefore, let us first strengthen our democracy and empower the youth to hold these so-called lawmakers accountable to public sentiment.
The current situation is also a result of the socio-economic disparities exacerbated by globalization and urbanization. Both genders now believe that pursuing higher education solely for lucrative salaries entitles them to do as they please. While some esteemed scholars promote this as a personal right, they tend to overlook the societal values and traditions that have been passed down through generations. They neglect the social fabric and cultural heritage of Indian society, which emphasizes a unified, strong, and dignified community that includes everyone. Some individuals struggle to differentiate between culture and rituals. Indian society is founded on the principle of "Sarve Jana Sukino Bhavanthu."
However, many individuals primarily focused on earning money, regardless of gender, are adopting a survival-of-the-fittest mentality that not only erodes moral behavior but also disrupts the socio-economic structure. Both urban and rural classes play integral roles in development. Instead of devising strategies to empower farmers and artisans, this economic surge has displaced them from their livelihoods, pushing them into uncertainty.
It is imperative to reflect on our rich socio-economic heritage. Parents are often not sufficiently engaged with their children, failing to impart values of love, affection, family, and community development. Only by teaching these values can we avoid the misguided teachings of economists.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Salem
I sincerely appreciate you for engaging in this impartial argument/discussion. Especially on topics like this that are so sensitive, and with the events taking place today, I fear that our youth are idealistic in pushing this issue to the forefront of government attention.
In addressing this problem, there are two possible approaches - one is social, and the other is legal.
I strongly support those advocating for stringent laws and their strict enforcement whenever such situations arise with any offender. However, I believe it will take a considerable amount of time to convince our political leaders, who often assert their dominance over the electorate. The laws and punishments should be so severe that the mere thought of committing such crimes again becomes inconceivable. Despite being a country known for love and affection, lawbreakers should not be handled with leniency. The purpose of imprisonment was initially to reform offenders, but it has unfortunately turned into a breeding ground for more criminals. Many of our elected officials are in power not by virtue of the votes but by instilling fear among the voting public like us. Therefore, let us first strengthen our democracy and empower the youth to hold these so-called lawmakers accountable to public sentiment.
The current situation is also a result of the socio-economic disparities exacerbated by globalization and urbanization. Both genders now believe that pursuing higher education solely for lucrative salaries entitles them to do as they please. While some esteemed scholars promote this as a personal right, they tend to overlook the societal values and traditions that have been passed down through generations. They neglect the social fabric and cultural heritage of Indian society, which emphasizes a unified, strong, and dignified community that includes everyone. Some individuals struggle to differentiate between culture and rituals. Indian society is founded on the principle of "Sarve Jana Sukino Bhavanthu."
However, many individuals primarily focused on earning money, regardless of gender, are adopting a survival-of-the-fittest mentality that not only erodes moral behavior but also disrupts the socio-economic structure. Both urban and rural classes play integral roles in development. Instead of devising strategies to empower farmers and artisans, this economic surge has displaced them from their livelihoods, pushing them into uncertainty.
It is imperative to reflect on our rich socio-economic heritage. Parents are often not sufficiently engaged with their children, failing to impart values of love, affection, family, and community development. Only by teaching these values can we avoid the misguided teachings of economists.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Salem
Hello, my friend,
I am so happy that people like you are taking time from their busy schedules to pass on their comments and add strength to the issue. Thank you very much for your valuable comments.
Regards,
Ganesh Ramachandran
From India, Tiruppur
I am so happy that people like you are taking time from their busy schedules to pass on their comments and add strength to the issue. Thank you very much for your valuable comments.
Regards,
Ganesh Ramachandran
From India, Tiruppur
Dear Ankita,
Let me answer your question which you felt was harsh for you, but I didn't feel the same. Whether I have a daughter or a son, it makes no sense to me. What makes sense to me is that "what I had taught and how I trained them on PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, that should help them to live a DECENT & DISCIPLINED LIFE, keeping themselves away from going wrong or inviting troubles that would cost them their life."
If I had a daughter, believe me or not, such an incident will never happen to her by the grace of ALLAH (SWT) because she knows about this world, the nature of people living around, and how to keep herself away from hurdles.
If I had a son, he will never behave insanely or like a wild animal because he will never love to push himself hard into the HELL OF FIRE, nor would he like to invite troubles in his GRAVE after death.
Whatever I taught my children, I must practice with perfection and be a role model for them; otherwise, they will not be on the right path, and I will fail desperately.
Well, you are mistaken as you thought I am promoting ISLAM. I was and am using ISLAM as a reference for everything. To understand the PRINCIPLES OF ISLAM ABOUT LIVING A DECENT & DISCIPLINED LIFESTYLE, Dr. Zakir Naik is the best educator, as I feel that he can explain the reality which many do not know about ISLAM. He has succeeded in explaining to thousands of people on earth, irrespective of their nationality. In short and sweet, ISLAM has explained about "HOW A PERSON NEEDS TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS FREE FROM SINS/ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES" "WHAT HE/SHE HAS TO DO THAT IS PRESCRIBED AS THE BEST FOR HIM/HER & WHAT HE/SHE SHOULD NOT" and a lot more.
The bitter fact is, whenever a TRUE BELIEVER OF ISLAM speaks about ISLAM, its PRINCIPLES associated with our LIVES, and explains the FACT, many have perceived it in a negative way or few have considered him/her as FOOLS. You may find it surprising that in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, many females have reverted and started embracing ISLAM. Post their decision, they have proved that they are free from a life which was UNSECURED when compared to their previous life where they were troubled by psycho males. You may be surprised and want to know what exactly is happening post their decision. If you want to know the fact, you have to study their lifestyle in the USA.
Do you know that many males go wrong when they are drunk? But still, ALCOHOL is being promoted in INDIA.
In ISLAM, the punishments are defined by ALLAH (SWT) but not by humans. Therefore, it is His LAW that has taught Muslims to stay away from ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES (SINS).
Coming generations will come to know the REALITY OF LIFE, which is going to be the worst. The only solution is to FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES THAT WILL HELP THEM LIVE A DISCIPLINED LIFE BASED ON TRUE PRINCIPLES OF LIFE GOVERNED BY THE ALMIGHTY BUT NOT BY HUMANS, and those principles I only found in ISLAM. Kindly don't blame me because I speak only "THE BITTER TRUTH."
Good Luck.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Let me answer your question which you felt was harsh for you, but I didn't feel the same. Whether I have a daughter or a son, it makes no sense to me. What makes sense to me is that "what I had taught and how I trained them on PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, that should help them to live a DECENT & DISCIPLINED LIFE, keeping themselves away from going wrong or inviting troubles that would cost them their life."
If I had a daughter, believe me or not, such an incident will never happen to her by the grace of ALLAH (SWT) because she knows about this world, the nature of people living around, and how to keep herself away from hurdles.
If I had a son, he will never behave insanely or like a wild animal because he will never love to push himself hard into the HELL OF FIRE, nor would he like to invite troubles in his GRAVE after death.
Whatever I taught my children, I must practice with perfection and be a role model for them; otherwise, they will not be on the right path, and I will fail desperately.
Well, you are mistaken as you thought I am promoting ISLAM. I was and am using ISLAM as a reference for everything. To understand the PRINCIPLES OF ISLAM ABOUT LIVING A DECENT & DISCIPLINED LIFESTYLE, Dr. Zakir Naik is the best educator, as I feel that he can explain the reality which many do not know about ISLAM. He has succeeded in explaining to thousands of people on earth, irrespective of their nationality. In short and sweet, ISLAM has explained about "HOW A PERSON NEEDS TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS FREE FROM SINS/ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES" "WHAT HE/SHE HAS TO DO THAT IS PRESCRIBED AS THE BEST FOR HIM/HER & WHAT HE/SHE SHOULD NOT" and a lot more.
The bitter fact is, whenever a TRUE BELIEVER OF ISLAM speaks about ISLAM, its PRINCIPLES associated with our LIVES, and explains the FACT, many have perceived it in a negative way or few have considered him/her as FOOLS. You may find it surprising that in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, many females have reverted and started embracing ISLAM. Post their decision, they have proved that they are free from a life which was UNSECURED when compared to their previous life where they were troubled by psycho males. You may be surprised and want to know what exactly is happening post their decision. If you want to know the fact, you have to study their lifestyle in the USA.
Do you know that many males go wrong when they are drunk? But still, ALCOHOL is being promoted in INDIA.
In ISLAM, the punishments are defined by ALLAH (SWT) but not by humans. Therefore, it is His LAW that has taught Muslims to stay away from ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES (SINS).
Coming generations will come to know the REALITY OF LIFE, which is going to be the worst. The only solution is to FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES THAT WILL HELP THEM LIVE A DISCIPLINED LIFE BASED ON TRUE PRINCIPLES OF LIFE GOVERNED BY THE ALMIGHTY BUT NOT BY HUMANS, and those principles I only found in ISLAM. Kindly don't blame me because I speak only "THE BITTER TRUTH."
Good Luck.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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(Fact Checked)-You have discussed important aspects related to personal principles and values. It's crucial to maintain respect and understanding towards all individuals regardless of their beliefs. Thank you for sharing your perspective. (1 Acknowledge point)
I have followed this thread with interest. I find that people have moved away from the topic and the question "Who is at fault: male or female?"
I do not think any religion on earth condones, let alone promotes, rape in any form. I have had discussions in another thread (https://www.citehr.com/385227-can-practicing-muslim-work-hr-professional-indian.html) about religion and, hence, will not get into a debate here. If children are not brought up respecting others, then it is the fault of parents who happen to be both female and male. However, once a person becomes an adult and falls into bad company, parents cannot be held responsible.
I have also read in this thread and elsewhere in the press that it is not safe in India unlike the West. Even in the West and Islamic countries, rapes occur. Please see Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In the West, when people drink, many do not know what they do or get up to; the same thing happens elsewhere too. Islam prohibits drinking, but I wonder how many "Muslims" really follow the teachings; I have seen many students in the UK wearing hijab, smoking, and drinking in the universities.
From United Kingdom
I do not think any religion on earth condones, let alone promotes, rape in any form. I have had discussions in another thread (https://www.citehr.com/385227-can-practicing-muslim-work-hr-professional-indian.html) about religion and, hence, will not get into a debate here. If children are not brought up respecting others, then it is the fault of parents who happen to be both female and male. However, once a person becomes an adult and falls into bad company, parents cannot be held responsible.
I have also read in this thread and elsewhere in the press that it is not safe in India unlike the West. Even in the West and Islamic countries, rapes occur. Please see Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In the West, when people drink, many do not know what they do or get up to; the same thing happens elsewhere too. Islam prohibits drinking, but I wonder how many "Muslims" really follow the teachings; I have seen many students in the UK wearing hijab, smoking, and drinking in the universities.
From United Kingdom
No religion, no parents ever encourage or accept such grave crimes. It is the mindset and character of the individual which is responsible for such acts. Such individuals must receive exemplary punishment, and indeed, we must ensure that CiteHR does not become a platform for such discussions. Mr. Simhan has summed up everything in his comments.
Regards,
Aspirations
From India, Bangalore
Regards,
Aspirations
From India, Bangalore
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Hi,
I have read this thread and all views expressed by the valuable members. When you face society as a girl, it's different, and as a man, it's different. Girls are always treated as the weaker gender. I don't want to discuss whose fault it is, but the sufferer is always women.
Nowadays, people lack values and philosophies that form the basics for deeds. The lifestyle change may also be the reason. First, we need to teach everyone that we should respect everyone and their views. We shouldn't even force others to accept our views.
We are in a society where females are always forced to accept whatever is being given to them. Right from education, she is not even allowed to choose a career or the degree, the dress.
As literates, once we start to respect everybody and treat them as our family members, brothers, and sisters, the crime rate may reduce.
From India, Coimbatore
I have read this thread and all views expressed by the valuable members. When you face society as a girl, it's different, and as a man, it's different. Girls are always treated as the weaker gender. I don't want to discuss whose fault it is, but the sufferer is always women.
Nowadays, people lack values and philosophies that form the basics for deeds. The lifestyle change may also be the reason. First, we need to teach everyone that we should respect everyone and their views. We shouldn't even force others to accept our views.
We are in a society where females are always forced to accept whatever is being given to them. Right from education, she is not even allowed to choose a career or the degree, the dress.
As literates, once we start to respect everybody and treat them as our family members, brothers, and sisters, the crime rate may reduce.
From India, Coimbatore
Looking at the Indian scenario, I wonder whether the South Indian parents have forced their daughters to wear Shalwar Kameez and western dresses! I also wonder whether the girls and boys that go to pubs and clubs have been forced by their parents to do so! It's very easy to blame the society; I wonder what the same women do when they become mothers and mothers-in-law to their daughters and daughters-in-law.
From United Kingdom
From United Kingdom
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