Archna,
I am not sure what is going on with the citehr website but I spent considerable time documenting my feedback which appears has not been received.I shall try to take the time today to recreate. I have reported this problem through to microsoft.Message I received was site not found.
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
4I am not sure what is going on with the citehr website but I spent considerable time documenting my feedback which appears has not been received.I shall try to take the time today to recreate. I have reported this problem through to microsoft.Message I received was site not found.
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
Hi Archna
This is a recreation of feedback I had previously provided on citehr for your students but that you appear not to have received. I think we can agree to disagree on accepting feedback.
My view is that all feedback is positive when it provides the detail that will help us affect improvement. The disadvantage perhaps with this forum is the immediate opportunity to clarify issues brought forth in the feedback process. I stand by my comments on value of feedback where no details or effects are documented. I see no value in that it doesn’t add to the learning or improvement of the end result. That is one of the key purposes of feedback.
1.Initially the strong colors attracted my attention but as I moved forward I became confused as to what the key learning points were. For me a softer background with emphasis in color would have driven the key points home. Maximum 3 colors
2.Font use: the mix of fonts, script, underling and not were a source of irritation for me. I found myself missing the key points while I counted the variety on each slide.
3.Animation: Again missed key learning as I was left with the impression the originator was trying to use every possible animation technique to prove they knew how. Found myself second-guessing what would come next.
I am not a student of MP but I am a corporate trainer on effective use of PP presentations. I am not sure my feedback will be of value to your students as my comments are specific to the PP as opposed to content, which I think was your intent.
Questions I would ask….
1.Who is this presentation intended for?
2.Is this presentation speaking slides?
3.What is the key message meant to be delivered? I missed it!
4.How many people would be attending the presentation? Script is very difficult to read depending on group size, room size lighting etc.
5.Will participants be using a guide?
6.How will notes be taken, questions handled etc.?
7.Normally a title page, welcome, closing etc would be included? Again who is the audience?
8. Time allocated for the presentation?
I applaud the effort of your students. The learning and growing as their experience is gained is so exciting. Please accept these comments in the spirit in which they are given, to help affect improvement.
He/she who dares to teach must never cease to learn! Thank you for the opportunity of providing feedback and expressing my views.
Cheers
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
This is a recreation of feedback I had previously provided on citehr for your students but that you appear not to have received. I think we can agree to disagree on accepting feedback.
My view is that all feedback is positive when it provides the detail that will help us affect improvement. The disadvantage perhaps with this forum is the immediate opportunity to clarify issues brought forth in the feedback process. I stand by my comments on value of feedback where no details or effects are documented. I see no value in that it doesn’t add to the learning or improvement of the end result. That is one of the key purposes of feedback.
1.Initially the strong colors attracted my attention but as I moved forward I became confused as to what the key learning points were. For me a softer background with emphasis in color would have driven the key points home. Maximum 3 colors
2.Font use: the mix of fonts, script, underling and not were a source of irritation for me. I found myself missing the key points while I counted the variety on each slide.
3.Animation: Again missed key learning as I was left with the impression the originator was trying to use every possible animation technique to prove they knew how. Found myself second-guessing what would come next.
I am not a student of MP but I am a corporate trainer on effective use of PP presentations. I am not sure my feedback will be of value to your students as my comments are specific to the PP as opposed to content, which I think was your intent.
Questions I would ask….
1.Who is this presentation intended for?
2.Is this presentation speaking slides?
3.What is the key message meant to be delivered? I missed it!
4.How many people would be attending the presentation? Script is very difficult to read depending on group size, room size lighting etc.
5.Will participants be using a guide?
6.How will notes be taken, questions handled etc.?
7.Normally a title page, welcome, closing etc would be included? Again who is the audience?
8. Time allocated for the presentation?
I applaud the effort of your students. The learning and growing as their experience is gained is so exciting. Please accept these comments in the spirit in which they are given, to help affect improvement.
He/she who dares to teach must never cease to learn! Thank you for the opportunity of providing feedback and expressing my views.
Cheers
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
Hey JEV,
Thanks a lot for your wonderful feedback.
I purely agree with you on the value of adding something while giving feedback, which is still lacking in this forum.
I hope you did not feel offended by my mail, as it was intentionally to tell you that we all may feel offended by criticism.
But I'm delighted to receive a mail from you with so many points thanks a lot once again.
The students who made this ppt, graduated this year, and it was the final presentation they made in the last semester of their college. ALthough most of the chanes you suggested are being taken care of and surely the contents part as well. There were many people who did not contributed on the thread but sent me their opininons through Personal messages which was a great gesture. :D
This was the reason I wrote, i am satisfied with even good or bad.
The presentation was meant for me, it was an assignment given to them.
Thanks again and looking forward for more interaction with you. :D
Cheers!!
Archna
From India, Delhi
Thanks a lot for your wonderful feedback.
I purely agree with you on the value of adding something while giving feedback, which is still lacking in this forum.
I hope you did not feel offended by my mail, as it was intentionally to tell you that we all may feel offended by criticism.
But I'm delighted to receive a mail from you with so many points thanks a lot once again.
The students who made this ppt, graduated this year, and it was the final presentation they made in the last semester of their college. ALthough most of the chanes you suggested are being taken care of and surely the contents part as well. There were many people who did not contributed on the thread but sent me their opininons through Personal messages which was a great gesture. :D
This was the reason I wrote, i am satisfied with even good or bad.
The presentation was meant for me, it was an assignment given to them.
Thanks again and looking forward for more interaction with you. :D
Cheers!!
Archna
From India, Delhi
Hi Archna,
Absolutely no offense taken. While I read many threads on citehr, I don't often comment unless I feel I can add value based on my area of expertise.
Must admit though, there have been times when I didn't really feel my comments were welcomed and I have backed off contributing.
Glad you saw some value in my input even though too late for your students. Where do you teach? Part of our 06/07 business plan is to build collaborative relationships to deliver our training services in India.
One never knows when our paths may cross!
Cheers
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
Absolutely no offense taken. While I read many threads on citehr, I don't often comment unless I feel I can add value based on my area of expertise.
Must admit though, there have been times when I didn't really feel my comments were welcomed and I have backed off contributing.
Glad you saw some value in my input even though too late for your students. Where do you teach? Part of our 06/07 business plan is to build collaborative relationships to deliver our training services in India.
One never knows when our paths may cross!
Cheers
JEV
From Canada, Ottawa
Hi JEV,
I agree with you, many times it happened that people do not welcome the comments.
But this is life, isn't it??
I teach in some management institutes in Delhi.
I hope the same, as we are in same profession, we have a chance to meet.
THanks a lot.
Cheers
Archna
From India, Delhi
I agree with you, many times it happened that people do not welcome the comments.
But this is life, isn't it??
I teach in some management institutes in Delhi.
I hope the same, as we are in same profession, we have a chance to meet.
THanks a lot.
Cheers
Archna
From India, Delhi
Hi Archana,
The presentation is good. Though it is not very much formatted but good efforts by your students. Do inform them bout all the responses u got on CiteHR which will help them in understanding both the sides of the WORLD.
Rgds,
Alpesh Palan
From India, Nasik
The presentation is good. Though it is not very much formatted but good efforts by your students. Do inform them bout all the responses u got on CiteHR which will help them in understanding both the sides of the WORLD.
Rgds,
Alpesh Palan
From India, Nasik
Archna,
I happened to stumble upon your post and the presentation just today.
Yes, it is a fair presentaton.
Since i have no idea of your students' qualifications, experience etc, i am unable to comment on their efforts. But ovreall it is a good one.
Now on your comments on NO feedback or "gratitude" -
Archna, do not expect anything in return.
Always remember - Do your duty with no expectations.
It maybe difficult in day to day life - but definitely possible in such situations.
Thanks
Bala
From India, Madras
I happened to stumble upon your post and the presentation just today.
Yes, it is a fair presentaton.
Since i have no idea of your students' qualifications, experience etc, i am unable to comment on their efforts. But ovreall it is a good one.
Now on your comments on NO feedback or "gratitude" -
Archna, do not expect anything in return.
Always remember - Do your duty with no expectations.
It maybe difficult in day to day life - but definitely possible in such situations.
Thanks
Bala
From India, Madras
Hi,
Thanks for sharing the information.Kudos!! to your students.It's niz to hear that students presenting their lecturer a powerpoint presentation denoting what they learnt.
Thanks once again for sharing the information.Do not get disheartened when you don receive courtesy or encouraging replies from the members of the forum.
Do keep posting!!!
Regards,
Sri.
From India, Bangalore
Thanks for sharing the information.Kudos!! to your students.It's niz to hear that students presenting their lecturer a powerpoint presentation denoting what they learnt.
Thanks once again for sharing the information.Do not get disheartened when you don receive courtesy or encouraging replies from the members of the forum.
Do keep posting!!!
Regards,
Sri.
From India, Bangalore
Thanks Bala and Sri,
Thanks for appreciating the efforts done by students, they were BBA students and now in next semester of their course.
I will make sure I will not expect anything from any member of the forum.
Thanks for the suggestions, I think now I was waiting for the comments.
Cheers
Archna
From India, Delhi
Thanks for appreciating the efforts done by students, they were BBA students and now in next semester of their course.
I will make sure I will not expect anything from any member of the forum.
Thanks for the suggestions, I think now I was waiting for the comments.
Cheers
Archna
From India, Delhi
hi archna
This is krupa here , rite now im in 2nd yr of hr. 1st of ill really appreciate d effort of the students . they had done a good job. n i think if u do this kind of thing continously , then it really help them to understand. secondly i need a help from you . we have a subject on this topic.
so i need more brief inf on this. if u can give, then it will help me alot to understand . my id is krp_200220022yahoo.co.in
thank you
This is krupa here , rite now im in 2nd yr of hr. 1st of ill really appreciate d effort of the students . they had done a good job. n i think if u do this kind of thing continously , then it really help them to understand. secondly i need a help from you . we have a subject on this topic.
so i need more brief inf on this. if u can give, then it will help me alot to understand . my id is krp_200220022yahoo.co.in
thank you
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