Most of the people here are talking about time and money wasted by the employer on employees. The employee has done nothing to get a job, especially a government job where there is so much competition. When I accepted the job, I also didn't think that I would ever consider leaving this job. However, I can compromise with my personal life, especially when I have better options.
Bank work is so easy; you just need to see it once, and you can perform even better than the manager if you are a little bit speedy and accurate. I have not gone through any training. I have not wasted any time of my seniors in teaching me anything. In fact, I work more than my very senior officers.
Anyways, my question is, how can I breach the service bond without paying a big amount of money like 1.5 Lakh?
From India, Ahmedabad
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Bank work is so easy; you just need to see it once, and you can perform even better than the manager if you are a little bit speedy and accurate. I have not gone through any training. I have not wasted any time of my seniors in teaching me anything. In fact, I work more than my very senior officers.
Anyways, my question is, how can I breach the service bond without paying a big amount of money like 1.5 Lakh?
From India, Ahmedabad
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Efforts of each and every candidate are appreciated by every recruiter.
We never said you didn't put in your efforts to get this job. Whether in the banking industry or any other sector, be it a government job or a private sector job, the competition is always present. Nobody overlooks that, and no one claims that securing the job was easy. However, it would be appreciated if you could consider both perspectives.
Another point to note is, as you mentioned, nobody forced you to accept this job even after going through the procedures. No interviewer will inform you that they spent a day analyzing your CV, followed by hours designing a test and evaluating it, and more hours conducting interviews, hence you are obligated to accept the job regardless of your preferences. The effort and time you put into securing this job were matched by the efforts made to provide you with the opportunity. How do you think the tests are created and assessed? Who conducted your interview? Who is managing the information and communication with you and all others who participated in the process? Have they not compromised their time and effort for this additional responsibility of accommodating you all during this process?
I understand that you are a graduate, and speaking in a childlike manner is not appreciated. To explain further, imagine this scenario: You board a bus and ask the conductor for a ticket to the last stop, which he provides. As you are about to pay, you realize you are on the wrong bus and then proceed to blame the bus and the conductor. You should have inquired before boarding. Similarly, you should have researched the banking industry and its work culture before joining. You are in a difficult situation due to your own mistake, not because of the bank's fault. So, why should the bank suffer for your error?
This is the simplest way to explain the situation.
From India, Mumbai
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754We never said you didn't put in your efforts to get this job. Whether in the banking industry or any other sector, be it a government job or a private sector job, the competition is always present. Nobody overlooks that, and no one claims that securing the job was easy. However, it would be appreciated if you could consider both perspectives.
Another point to note is, as you mentioned, nobody forced you to accept this job even after going through the procedures. No interviewer will inform you that they spent a day analyzing your CV, followed by hours designing a test and evaluating it, and more hours conducting interviews, hence you are obligated to accept the job regardless of your preferences. The effort and time you put into securing this job were matched by the efforts made to provide you with the opportunity. How do you think the tests are created and assessed? Who conducted your interview? Who is managing the information and communication with you and all others who participated in the process? Have they not compromised their time and effort for this additional responsibility of accommodating you all during this process?
I understand that you are a graduate, and speaking in a childlike manner is not appreciated. To explain further, imagine this scenario: You board a bus and ask the conductor for a ticket to the last stop, which he provides. As you are about to pay, you realize you are on the wrong bus and then proceed to blame the bus and the conductor. You should have inquired before boarding. Similarly, you should have researched the banking industry and its work culture before joining. You are in a difficult situation due to your own mistake, not because of the bank's fault. So, why should the bank suffer for your error?
This is the simplest way to explain the situation.
From India, Mumbai
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With reference to the payment of the amount as part of an agreement, one has to consider the reasons and circumstances under which the amount needs to be paid. If the person concerned does not gain any skills or knowledge from the training undergone during employment, then there is no need to pay. Otherwise, one can decide not to pay and face any issues that may arise according to the law.
From India, Chennai
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From India, Chennai
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in a govt bond.. first you pay that amount after that approach court and get your money back.. but first you have to pay
From India, Delhi
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Dear Shital,
Please check the thread at https://www.citehr.com/437131-legal-...ml#post1979109. In this thread, you will find some ideas regarding your query.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Please check the thread at https://www.citehr.com/437131-legal-...ml#post1979109. In this thread, you will find some ideas regarding your query.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Hello,
All the discussion so far is good as it displays different viewpoints.
To me, the issue is SIMPLE.
Forget the LAW aspect, forget also if the bank has offered real training or not!
Just consider that in life, while you have to be legally right, even if there is no law involved, you have to be morally right!
Consider:
1) The bank offered to employ you IF you agreed to sign a bond (with all conditionalities).
2) You accepted, and because you were found suitable for the job, you were appointed!
Now you have found some issues that suggest you move away. These can be real ones too, but the question is, in civil society, can I evade, avoid, ignore my own word?
If you break the bond, the bank may or may not proceed against you legally or otherwise, and that is NOT the issue. Even if you yet BREAK the bond, do so, so long as you are willing to bear the associated cost! In life, all our actions/omissions carry a "cost" - direct or indirect, immediate or at an unknown time in the future, in one form or another. So long as you are prepared to accept this reality, by all means, go ahead and break the bond!
In any case, as an individual, you have an inherent right to make decisions! Why seek guidance from others when you are willing to bear the associated cost? Or, is it that you psychologically NEED a kind of "approval" from others for whatever you do?
I am sorry if I am found to be harsh, but in my personal opinion (which you need not accept!), your dilemma is a moral dilemma ahead of a legal one. The rest is immaterial.
Make your decision and at least inform of your courage either way!
Best of luck!
Regards,
Samvedan
November 10, 2012
From India, Pune
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All the discussion so far is good as it displays different viewpoints.
To me, the issue is SIMPLE.
Forget the LAW aspect, forget also if the bank has offered real training or not!
Just consider that in life, while you have to be legally right, even if there is no law involved, you have to be morally right!
Consider:
1) The bank offered to employ you IF you agreed to sign a bond (with all conditionalities).
2) You accepted, and because you were found suitable for the job, you were appointed!
Now you have found some issues that suggest you move away. These can be real ones too, but the question is, in civil society, can I evade, avoid, ignore my own word?
If you break the bond, the bank may or may not proceed against you legally or otherwise, and that is NOT the issue. Even if you yet BREAK the bond, do so, so long as you are willing to bear the associated cost! In life, all our actions/omissions carry a "cost" - direct or indirect, immediate or at an unknown time in the future, in one form or another. So long as you are prepared to accept this reality, by all means, go ahead and break the bond!
In any case, as an individual, you have an inherent right to make decisions! Why seek guidance from others when you are willing to bear the associated cost? Or, is it that you psychologically NEED a kind of "approval" from others for whatever you do?
I am sorry if I am found to be harsh, but in my personal opinion (which you need not accept!), your dilemma is a moral dilemma ahead of a legal one. The rest is immaterial.
Make your decision and at least inform of your courage either way!
Best of luck!
Regards,
Samvedan
November 10, 2012
From India, Pune
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Hi All,
Even if it is a government company, what if the organization has not provided any training and directly assigned him to a task? Many of the government PSUs mention that after 1 year of successful training, you will be made permanent. In reality, training is provided by very few PSUs during the first year. So, what can be the liquidated damages done by the employee as the company didn't provide any training as mentioned in the offer letter.
Regards, Prathap.
From India, Hyderabad
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Even if it is a government company, what if the organization has not provided any training and directly assigned him to a task? Many of the government PSUs mention that after 1 year of successful training, you will be made permanent. In reality, training is provided by very few PSUs during the first year. So, what can be the liquidated damages done by the employee as the company didn't provide any training as mentioned in the offer letter.
Regards, Prathap.
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Prathap,
Whatever you are doing in the first year of service will be under the supervision of a well-experienced senior person. It is considered as On-The-Job Training. Please do not expect that you will be given only classroom lecture training. If you expect such training, then you cannot perform in your organization.
Best regards,
From India, Kumbakonam
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Whatever you are doing in the first year of service will be under the supervision of a well-experienced senior person. It is considered as On-The-Job Training. Please do not expect that you will be given only classroom lecture training. If you expect such training, then you cannot perform in your organization.
Best regards,
From India, Kumbakonam
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Believe in yourself. If you are certain that you don't want to do this, there is no point in wasting three years of your life at its prime.
Regarding not paying 1.5 L, talk to your boss about whether he can help you get that waived. Also, speak with a lawyer to determine if the company can force you to pay it, and then make a decision.
Of course, there are examples of people who try and fail, but if you keep trying persistently, you will succeed sooner or later. So, don't be afraid of that.
From India, Delhi
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Regarding not paying 1.5 L, talk to your boss about whether he can help you get that waived. Also, speak with a lawyer to determine if the company can force you to pay it, and then make a decision.
Of course, there are examples of people who try and fail, but if you keep trying persistently, you will succeed sooner or later. So, don't be afraid of that.
From India, Delhi
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