Dear John, What do you think based on your knowledge and experience? Please let us know; then the debate would be more fruitful. Have a nice day. Simhan
From United Kingdom
1624From United Kingdom
I do not believe learning alone can develop an individual.
Formal learning mostly only teaches you theoretical knowledge. The real learning comes when you leave academia and move into the workplace and put into practice what you have learned. It is only in the real world that you learn that not everything you learn in school works out in practice. It's then when you learn about flexibility, adaptability, decision making based on reality and the circumstances at the time, not on theory.
Good examples are often seen here on CiteHR where we have people who come out of school with degrees, MBA's, whatever and walk straight into a HR Manager job with no skills to do the job whatsoever. Yes, they have a piece of paper that says they have a qualification, but that does not mean they can do the job. That only comes with real life experience on the job.
There is also the increasing worldwide problem that we have where some individuals are not earning their degrees and MBA's etc by doing the work. They increasingly rely on others providing them with ready made answers rather than doing the research and developing the knowledge and skills they will need to rely on in later life.
It's a vexed question and there are no easy answers. In India I see a country rushing headlong into the 21st Century at breakneck speed, but at what cost to it's people. This massive express train will hit the buffers with an almighty crash if India does not adequately train and develop it's workforce with the real life skills and experience needed. Academia alone will not get them there.
Many people may decry my thoughts and my actions on CiteHR to try and encourage people to do more for themselves and develop their skills and talents. But others will see that in the long run, I am trying to help prepare people for the future and their future success. My working life is nearly over. Now I can use my experience and skills to help other people.
From Australia, Melbourne
Formal learning mostly only teaches you theoretical knowledge. The real learning comes when you leave academia and move into the workplace and put into practice what you have learned. It is only in the real world that you learn that not everything you learn in school works out in practice. It's then when you learn about flexibility, adaptability, decision making based on reality and the circumstances at the time, not on theory.
Good examples are often seen here on CiteHR where we have people who come out of school with degrees, MBA's, whatever and walk straight into a HR Manager job with no skills to do the job whatsoever. Yes, they have a piece of paper that says they have a qualification, but that does not mean they can do the job. That only comes with real life experience on the job.
There is also the increasing worldwide problem that we have where some individuals are not earning their degrees and MBA's etc by doing the work. They increasingly rely on others providing them with ready made answers rather than doing the research and developing the knowledge and skills they will need to rely on in later life.
It's a vexed question and there are no easy answers. In India I see a country rushing headlong into the 21st Century at breakneck speed, but at what cost to it's people. This massive express train will hit the buffers with an almighty crash if India does not adequately train and develop it's workforce with the real life skills and experience needed. Academia alone will not get them there.
Many people may decry my thoughts and my actions on CiteHR to try and encourage people to do more for themselves and develop their skills and talents. But others will see that in the long run, I am trying to help prepare people for the future and their future success. My working life is nearly over. Now I can use my experience and skills to help other people.
From Australia, Melbourne
Learning alone we can get some information, but we cant understand other behaviours. If we want to build career in hr,we have to mingle with people. Read about INTRA & INTER PERSONNEL RELATION.
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Learning is only one aspec of life. Unless you put into practice what you learnt, over a period of time you tend to forget what you learnt. Perhaps you would have known about something called the Learning Curve. You have to sustain the learning by implementing in your work area, if that is relevant to your job skill or role.
Best wishes
From India
Best wishes
From India
Hi John,
I agree that until you have practical knowledge of a particular sphere you can't call yourself master of it just with the reason that you are holding a degree of masters in that sphere. But yes, theoretical knowledge no doubt gives us a rough graph as to what can be done in that particular situation and the number of methods a problem can be solved as what we read in our course. But yes, a person who is having a degree of graduation and having an experience of 2 years in that particular sector will be more efficient than the student having a post graduation degree after 3 years of his course in that field.
This is not to demoralize the students going on for higher studies at all. Rather its to motivate them to apply their knowledge as soon they get a chance.
Renuka Prashar
Chandigarh
From India, Jaipur
I agree that until you have practical knowledge of a particular sphere you can't call yourself master of it just with the reason that you are holding a degree of masters in that sphere. But yes, theoretical knowledge no doubt gives us a rough graph as to what can be done in that particular situation and the number of methods a problem can be solved as what we read in our course. But yes, a person who is having a degree of graduation and having an experience of 2 years in that particular sector will be more efficient than the student having a post graduation degree after 3 years of his course in that field.
This is not to demoralize the students going on for higher studies at all. Rather its to motivate them to apply their knowledge as soon they get a chance.
Renuka Prashar
Chandigarh
From India, Jaipur
Hi John,
I agreed with you because when you are in the university you are bombared with theroies of HRM. But if you come to the real work things are different and it needs expereince to solve the problem which we face in real world. Learning can spark a hint of knoweldge HRM But doesnot provide you practical solving skills.
Best reagrds,
TESFAYE
From Ethiopia, Addis Abeba
I agreed with you because when you are in the university you are bombared with theroies of HRM. But if you come to the real work things are different and it needs expereince to solve the problem which we face in real world. Learning can spark a hint of knoweldge HRM But doesnot provide you practical solving skills.
Best reagrds,
TESFAYE
From Ethiopia, Addis Abeba
Hello,
Learning is essential but is certainly not the end of all!!
Learning will provide "knowledge" but knowledge without "application" will not be of much use! You do things on the basis of what you have learnt and try to move on. Sometimes you may make mistakes, you will have to learn from these also and move on!
Performance and success are like "ability" and "skill".
When you obtain a driving license, your ability to drive is certified but when you drive carefully, without getting into or causing accidents, you would have acquired skill.
Almost identical is difference between "learning" and "development".
Therefore, if development is the aim, mere learning will not prove adequately potent. Learning will have to be tested on a reality platform and this alone will lead to development!!
Regards
samvedan
August 17, 2011
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From India, Pune
Learning is essential but is certainly not the end of all!!
Learning will provide "knowledge" but knowledge without "application" will not be of much use! You do things on the basis of what you have learnt and try to move on. Sometimes you may make mistakes, you will have to learn from these also and move on!
Performance and success are like "ability" and "skill".
When you obtain a driving license, your ability to drive is certified but when you drive carefully, without getting into or causing accidents, you would have acquired skill.
Almost identical is difference between "learning" and "development".
Therefore, if development is the aim, mere learning will not prove adequately potent. Learning will have to be tested on a reality platform and this alone will lead to development!!
Regards
samvedan
August 17, 2011
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From India, Pune
Yes, people need to understand that formal learning only provides the building blocks from which you go out into the big wide world and learn how to use that basic framework.
It doesn't only apply to HR, it is relevant for any discipline. For example an engineer can learn all the theory in the world about building a bridge. But when he is really tested is when he gets sent out on a job to build a bridge where there could be soil subsidence, a site in an earthquake zone, and so on. He is going to have to learn very quickly and develop real world skills to solve the problems and get that bridge built so that it is safe and sound. He will have some basic knowledge to start with, but out on site, faced with the real thing, it is not quite the same as sitting in the comfort of a lecture room in a university.
I like to use the analogy of the time I learnt to drive a car. I went to a driving school and had many lessons. The instructor and I would go out once a week and I would learn various things like reversing, turning, braking, starting on a hill, etc etc. Then the day came for me to take my formal test and at the end I was given a licence to drive a car. But the reality is, I never learnt to drive that car properly until I was driving regularly in all types of traffic conditions, in all weather conditions and on different roads etc etc. It was then I had to learn how to use my judgement to make decisions based on the conditions.
The real learning ONLY comes after the formal learning.
From Australia, Melbourne
It doesn't only apply to HR, it is relevant for any discipline. For example an engineer can learn all the theory in the world about building a bridge. But when he is really tested is when he gets sent out on a job to build a bridge where there could be soil subsidence, a site in an earthquake zone, and so on. He is going to have to learn very quickly and develop real world skills to solve the problems and get that bridge built so that it is safe and sound. He will have some basic knowledge to start with, but out on site, faced with the real thing, it is not quite the same as sitting in the comfort of a lecture room in a university.
I like to use the analogy of the time I learnt to drive a car. I went to a driving school and had many lessons. The instructor and I would go out once a week and I would learn various things like reversing, turning, braking, starting on a hill, etc etc. Then the day came for me to take my formal test and at the end I was given a licence to drive a car. But the reality is, I never learnt to drive that car properly until I was driving regularly in all types of traffic conditions, in all weather conditions and on different roads etc etc. It was then I had to learn how to use my judgement to make decisions based on the conditions.
The real learning ONLY comes after the formal learning.
From Australia, Melbourne
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