Can any body give me a brief of this both terminology and difference between them. Thanks Regards Shaival Tiwari shaival.tiwari@rediffmail.com 9824013689
From India, Mumbai
10From India, Mumbai
SAP IS ERP
but ERP IS NOT SAP
SAP is part of ERP,,
ERP, Enterprise Resource Planning
in ERP various tools are used
SAP is one of them ,,
another tools are HCM management softwares, like peoplesoft, HRMS, petal etc etc etc
From India, Pune
but ERP IS NOT SAP
SAP is part of ERP,,
ERP, Enterprise Resource Planning
in ERP various tools are used
SAP is one of them ,,
another tools are HCM management softwares, like peoplesoft, HRMS, petal etc etc etc
From India, Pune
Dear Shaival,
ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) is a concept and SAP is a ERP tool (software), however SAP has become synonymous to ERP because it has been widely used in around 26 industry verticals and enjoys a market share of 60% across the globe.
The other ERP's in market are BAAN, JDEdwards, ORACLE ERP, MFG PRO, Microsoft Business Solutions (Navision and Axapta), RAMCO which are very familiar, however even Tally has also ERP functionalities in it.
ERP is such concept where the information flow from one function to another is integrated very tightly and each of this ERP products have their own uniqueness, and SAP scores over other ERP because of its evolution, and as a matter of fact SAP was the first company to design this ERP tool which linked the various functions of a organisation.
Let us take the case of Salary Processing
Case-1 - Without any ERP or any software (manual processing):
You calculate attendance based on the Register, arrive at no of days present and absent, manually reconcile leave and finally once the days payable are calculated you will arrive at what is the persons agreed salary, note down that, send the salary calculation sheet to accounts department, based on your sheet, the accounts with either prepare cheque or cash and handover the same to every employee with obtaining signature on the voucher
CASE-2 - With ERP Software
Imagine the attendance is taken through the access card machine / swipe card, or some sort of excel sheet - this data will flow to ERP for calculation for salary eligibility (how much to pay) and you also can cross cheque or allow system to process the salary slip and statement, Salary Slip automatically gets mailed to every employee, and the salary statement goes to the accounts department, which will have details like Employee Code, Name, Designation, Dept. and Salary payable and more important the BANK Account number, the accounts dept. based on the salary statement will send the intimation to the bank with a single cheque authorising to debit company account and credit the employee with his salary and all the relevant account entries are passed in the ERP software such as Basic, PF, etc which will be accounted in respective general ledgers as Expenses, Liability etc. - ALL THIS DONE WITHIN FEW HOURS or FEW DAYS
This is the fun of ERP!!!
Dont get lost between ERP and SAP, however as told earlier, SAP enjoys monopoly because of the standard business sets (configurations) which can be straightly used by organisation without re-inventing the wheel.
Hope this was useful.
From India, New Delhi
ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) is a concept and SAP is a ERP tool (software), however SAP has become synonymous to ERP because it has been widely used in around 26 industry verticals and enjoys a market share of 60% across the globe.
The other ERP's in market are BAAN, JDEdwards, ORACLE ERP, MFG PRO, Microsoft Business Solutions (Navision and Axapta), RAMCO which are very familiar, however even Tally has also ERP functionalities in it.
ERP is such concept where the information flow from one function to another is integrated very tightly and each of this ERP products have their own uniqueness, and SAP scores over other ERP because of its evolution, and as a matter of fact SAP was the first company to design this ERP tool which linked the various functions of a organisation.
Let us take the case of Salary Processing
Case-1 - Without any ERP or any software (manual processing):
You calculate attendance based on the Register, arrive at no of days present and absent, manually reconcile leave and finally once the days payable are calculated you will arrive at what is the persons agreed salary, note down that, send the salary calculation sheet to accounts department, based on your sheet, the accounts with either prepare cheque or cash and handover the same to every employee with obtaining signature on the voucher
CASE-2 - With ERP Software
Imagine the attendance is taken through the access card machine / swipe card, or some sort of excel sheet - this data will flow to ERP for calculation for salary eligibility (how much to pay) and you also can cross cheque or allow system to process the salary slip and statement, Salary Slip automatically gets mailed to every employee, and the salary statement goes to the accounts department, which will have details like Employee Code, Name, Designation, Dept. and Salary payable and more important the BANK Account number, the accounts dept. based on the salary statement will send the intimation to the bank with a single cheque authorising to debit company account and credit the employee with his salary and all the relevant account entries are passed in the ERP software such as Basic, PF, etc which will be accounted in respective general ledgers as Expenses, Liability etc. - ALL THIS DONE WITHIN FEW HOURS or FEW DAYS
This is the fun of ERP!!!
Dont get lost between ERP and SAP, however as told earlier, SAP enjoys monopoly because of the standard business sets (configurations) which can be straightly used by organisation without re-inventing the wheel.
Hope this was useful.
From India, New Delhi
Dear Dhananjaya P, i am doing MBA HR .could u please explain me what other softwares i should learn to b at a (good) managerial position in HR Many Thanks
From India, Shahkot
From India, Shahkot
Hi, Dhananjaya P
I was pursuing my MBA HR. Which I had to left in between because of some personal problem. I am working as Manager HR. could you pls suggest me which course I should go for in HR to retain my position.
Pls suggest me institute (distance learning) also for the same if you can.
regards,
Mamta
From India, Lucknow
I was pursuing my MBA HR. Which I had to left in between because of some personal problem. I am working as Manager HR. could you pls suggest me which course I should go for in HR to retain my position.
Pls suggest me institute (distance learning) also for the same if you can.
regards,
Mamta
From India, Lucknow
Ms. Chandni,
As far as HR professional is concerned, there is no specific IT course to boost one's career, however it depends on the choice. (I assume that you are well versed in using MS-Office, Mails, Internet) this addresses the basic requirement, and let me address your core issue.
You need to be clear whether you need to lead a life of HR-Generalist, HR-Employee Management Specialist, HR-Recruitment Specalist etc., and on the software front, are you willing to become a Techno Functional Consultant??
The role of a techno functional consultant is very demanding: where you need to have a commendable experience of HR Practice, Rules, Regulations etc., then you can look at getting certified in SAP-HCM (this will cost you around 3 Lacs), or Oracle People Soft (need to find out the training details), this certification will help you understand how these software's are designed for HR, and also how to use / apply the same as per the organisation needs.
Before all this you need to decide whether you need to be a core HR professional or shift your focus and become a ERP consultant on HR module.
Regards,
Dhananjaya P.
From India, New Delhi
As far as HR professional is concerned, there is no specific IT course to boost one's career, however it depends on the choice. (I assume that you are well versed in using MS-Office, Mails, Internet) this addresses the basic requirement, and let me address your core issue.
You need to be clear whether you need to lead a life of HR-Generalist, HR-Employee Management Specialist, HR-Recruitment Specalist etc., and on the software front, are you willing to become a Techno Functional Consultant??
The role of a techno functional consultant is very demanding: where you need to have a commendable experience of HR Practice, Rules, Regulations etc., then you can look at getting certified in SAP-HCM (this will cost you around 3 Lacs), or Oracle People Soft (need to find out the training details), this certification will help you understand how these software's are designed for HR, and also how to use / apply the same as per the organisation needs.
Before all this you need to decide whether you need to be a core HR professional or shift your focus and become a ERP consultant on HR module.
Regards,
Dhananjaya P.
From India, New Delhi
Ms. Chandni,
As far as HR professional is concerned, there is no specific IT course to boost one's career, however it depends on the choice. (I assume that you are well versed in using MS-Office, Mails, Internet) this addresses the basic requirement, and let me address your core issue.
You need to be clear whether you need to lead a life of HR-Generalist, HR-Employee Management Specialist, HR-Recruitment Specalist etc., and on the software front, are you willing to become a Techno Functional Consultant??
The role of a techno functional consultant is very demanding: where you need to have a commendable experience of HR Practice, Rules, Regulations etc., then you can look at getting certified in SAP-HCM (this will cost you around 3 Lacs), or Oracle People Soft (need to find out the training details), this certification will help you understand how these software's are designed for HR, and also how to use / apply the same as per the organisation needs.
Before all this you need to decide whether you need to be a core HR professional or shift your focus and become a ERP consultant on HR module.
Regards,
Dhananjaya P.
From India, New Delhi
As far as HR professional is concerned, there is no specific IT course to boost one's career, however it depends on the choice. (I assume that you are well versed in using MS-Office, Mails, Internet) this addresses the basic requirement, and let me address your core issue.
You need to be clear whether you need to lead a life of HR-Generalist, HR-Employee Management Specialist, HR-Recruitment Specalist etc., and on the software front, are you willing to become a Techno Functional Consultant??
The role of a techno functional consultant is very demanding: where you need to have a commendable experience of HR Practice, Rules, Regulations etc., then you can look at getting certified in SAP-HCM (this will cost you around 3 Lacs), or Oracle People Soft (need to find out the training details), this certification will help you understand how these software's are designed for HR, and also how to use / apply the same as per the organisation needs.
Before all this you need to decide whether you need to be a core HR professional or shift your focus and become a ERP consultant on HR module.
Regards,
Dhananjaya P.
From India, New Delhi
\"SAP is the name of a company founded in 1972 under the German name (Systems, Applications, andProducts in Data Processing) and is the leading ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) software package.
The original name for SAP was German: Systeme, Anwendungen, Produkte, German for \"\"Systems Applications and Products.\"\" The original SAP idea was to provide customers with the ability to interact with a common corporate database for a comprehensive range of applications. Gradually, the applications have been assembled and today many corporations, including IBM and Microsoft, are using SAP products to run their own businesses.
ERP is a package with the techniques and concepts for the integrated management of business as a whole, for effective use of management resources, to improve the efficiency of an enterprise. Initially,ERP was targeted for manufacturing industry mainly for planning and managing core businesses like production and financial market. ERP software is designed for basi
From India, Jaipur
The original name for SAP was German: Systeme, Anwendungen, Produkte, German for \"\"Systems Applications and Products.\"\" The original SAP idea was to provide customers with the ability to interact with a common corporate database for a comprehensive range of applications. Gradually, the applications have been assembled and today many corporations, including IBM and Microsoft, are using SAP products to run their own businesses.
ERP is a package with the techniques and concepts for the integrated management of business as a whole, for effective use of management resources, to improve the efficiency of an enterprise. Initially,ERP was targeted for manufacturing industry mainly for planning and managing core businesses like production and financial market. ERP software is designed for basi
From India, Jaipur
hello Dhananjaya,
I really liked your explanation in relation to SAP and ERP which helped me to understand many terms and thank you so much for that.
I really think that you can help me well with my query.
I have a bachelor engineering degree in Electronics and telecommunication and masters degree in HR(Human Resource) with one year experience in HR and I am about to start my MBA in MIS (Management Information Systems) with knowledge of ERP and SAP. I wanted to know on which profile I can work? Are there any work profiles which requires knowledge in HR as well Information Systems?
Please guide me on this! This will help me greatly!
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you for your kind attention.
From India, Nashik
I really liked your explanation in relation to SAP and ERP which helped me to understand many terms and thank you so much for that.
I really think that you can help me well with my query.
I have a bachelor engineering degree in Electronics and telecommunication and masters degree in HR(Human Resource) with one year experience in HR and I am about to start my MBA in MIS (Management Information Systems) with knowledge of ERP and SAP. I wanted to know on which profile I can work? Are there any work profiles which requires knowledge in HR as well Information Systems?
Please guide me on this! This will help me greatly!
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you for your kind attention.
From India, Nashik
Dear DHANANJAYA,
I gained a lot of from your detailed description about the difference between ERP & SAP and the software works. I have pursued BBA specializing in Logistics and Supply Chain. I have been thinking of pursuing a SAP training course. I am confused in selecting from two modules i.e. LIS(logistics Information System) or MM (Material Management). I want to take your valued advice on this one.
Regards:
Mukund Pandey
From India, Kolkata
I gained a lot of from your detailed description about the difference between ERP & SAP and the software works. I have pursued BBA specializing in Logistics and Supply Chain. I have been thinking of pursuing a SAP training course. I am confused in selecting from two modules i.e. LIS(logistics Information System) or MM (Material Management). I want to take your valued advice on this one.
Regards:
Mukund Pandey
From India, Kolkata
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