Please can someone help me.
I was hired in Dubai 3 years back from Pakistan as a regional manager for MENA. As per the contract i have to get permanent in 6 months but the company took around 1 year to make me permanent. After 1 month i got to know that there is one assistant coming to dubai to support me but in actual he was my replacement but i had no information and everything went fine. When i got permanent and got my driving licence i purchased a car which was on loan as per the company policy they give me car allowance and as got permanent so thought everything is fine and can give comfort to my family in Dubai. After 3 months my other VP came from India and told me that we dont need you and you need to resign but we will give you 3 months salary. I had no choice and i resigned and thought that after having 16 years of experience will find a new job even it was un-justified decision from the company as they dont want to see or listen any proof from my side. My family was there and i keep on hunting for jobs but due to recesion i am unable to get one for three months. Then the same company called me and said there is a lower position availabe in Saudi and we will give you half salary to the one which u were getting. The company itself was not present in saudi arabia and they have partners so they told me that i will be on partners payroll but you have to be on our side as we are sending you and let us know if anything negative is done by the partners. I went to Saudi leaving my family in UAE on the visit visa. From the day first the partner doesnt want me to be there as they wanted to bring their own person. I stayed in saudi for about 4 months but nothing happened for my work permit and the company told me that the partner is not issuing the visa and you need to buy it privately. Just to cut down my expenses i have to send my family back to Pakistan as thinking that when my saudi visa will be done i will call my family and thats why i cargo all my luggage to saudi. After 5 months partners send someone who is actually not from minstry of foreign affairs but he pretended and ask me to show work permit which i didnt have. My VP was also there for a visit at that time and the partner representative. I dont know arabic so he talked to the person and told me that you need to give him your passport and within 24 hours you need to exit from saudi. My VP told just go to dubai as its not safe here and done worry for your luggage it will be shipped. So i went out from Saudi and came to Dubai and from there they sent me back to pakistan to do operations in here. In Pakistan the company is not present as its an indian company but they are doing business with local partners and we need to have a check on them that they are following the policies. Yesterday the partner called all the four people and asked that there is no need of you and you need to resign and i told them that we didnt got any information from our company and we will not give resignation. The guy told me that you need to deposit your laptops and we will not let u go without it. Finally i came out of their office and called my company on which nothing was clear. Today they called and asked us to resign and give a threat that if we dont resign then they will terminate us and if we resign then they will give us 3 months salary.
My question are:
1. Can an employer terminate us even if we are not in the country.
2. Do we have any say if we go to the labor department and told them that the companies partners pressurized us to resign and the company also given us threats to resign in one day otherwise they will terminate us.
3. I have car in UAE which is on loan so i believe that the visa cant be cancelled except i get rid of the loan.
From Pakistan, Islamabad
I was hired in Dubai 3 years back from Pakistan as a regional manager for MENA. As per the contract i have to get permanent in 6 months but the company took around 1 year to make me permanent. After 1 month i got to know that there is one assistant coming to dubai to support me but in actual he was my replacement but i had no information and everything went fine. When i got permanent and got my driving licence i purchased a car which was on loan as per the company policy they give me car allowance and as got permanent so thought everything is fine and can give comfort to my family in Dubai. After 3 months my other VP came from India and told me that we dont need you and you need to resign but we will give you 3 months salary. I had no choice and i resigned and thought that after having 16 years of experience will find a new job even it was un-justified decision from the company as they dont want to see or listen any proof from my side. My family was there and i keep on hunting for jobs but due to recesion i am unable to get one for three months. Then the same company called me and said there is a lower position availabe in Saudi and we will give you half salary to the one which u were getting. The company itself was not present in saudi arabia and they have partners so they told me that i will be on partners payroll but you have to be on our side as we are sending you and let us know if anything negative is done by the partners. I went to Saudi leaving my family in UAE on the visit visa. From the day first the partner doesnt want me to be there as they wanted to bring their own person. I stayed in saudi for about 4 months but nothing happened for my work permit and the company told me that the partner is not issuing the visa and you need to buy it privately. Just to cut down my expenses i have to send my family back to Pakistan as thinking that when my saudi visa will be done i will call my family and thats why i cargo all my luggage to saudi. After 5 months partners send someone who is actually not from minstry of foreign affairs but he pretended and ask me to show work permit which i didnt have. My VP was also there for a visit at that time and the partner representative. I dont know arabic so he talked to the person and told me that you need to give him your passport and within 24 hours you need to exit from saudi. My VP told just go to dubai as its not safe here and done worry for your luggage it will be shipped. So i went out from Saudi and came to Dubai and from there they sent me back to pakistan to do operations in here. In Pakistan the company is not present as its an indian company but they are doing business with local partners and we need to have a check on them that they are following the policies. Yesterday the partner called all the four people and asked that there is no need of you and you need to resign and i told them that we didnt got any information from our company and we will not give resignation. The guy told me that you need to deposit your laptops and we will not let u go without it. Finally i came out of their office and called my company on which nothing was clear. Today they called and asked us to resign and give a threat that if we dont resign then they will terminate us and if we resign then they will give us 3 months salary.
My question are:
1. Can an employer terminate us even if we are not in the country.
2. Do we have any say if we go to the labor department and told them that the companies partners pressurized us to resign and the company also given us threats to resign in one day otherwise they will terminate us.
3. I have car in UAE which is on loan so i believe that the visa cant be cancelled except i get rid of the loan.
From Pakistan, Islamabad
Dear umairsiddiqi
Welcome to CiteHR.com.
Thanks for posting your query alongwith required relevant information.
I am sure, some of the members, well versed with the situation cited by you, shall attend to your problem shortly.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
1426Welcome to CiteHR.com.
Thanks for posting your query alongwith required relevant information.
I am sure, some of the members, well versed with the situation cited by you, shall attend to your problem shortly.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
hi umairsiddiqi,
Im sorry to hear that. I am not an indian or pakistani or a local in UAE and may not know the rights and the labor practices and policies in your country, but there will always be a due process interms of termination and/or resignation.
Here in our country, new hired employees will be on probationary period for 6 months (under observation if s/he has the capabilities, skills and knowledge of the job) but heres the thing with probationary contracts if the HR's wont give you feedback about the end of your probationary period after the 6 months period, you will be automatically be regularized. (thats in our country) We only do the regularization papers for formality that you have been regularized by the company.
with the other problems you cited here. why not go to labor departments and seek for an advice. before you do any thing that will make you regret!
hope you will be ok soon with this problem
From Philippines, Cebu
Im sorry to hear that. I am not an indian or pakistani or a local in UAE and may not know the rights and the labor practices and policies in your country, but there will always be a due process interms of termination and/or resignation.
Here in our country, new hired employees will be on probationary period for 6 months (under observation if s/he has the capabilities, skills and knowledge of the job) but heres the thing with probationary contracts if the HR's wont give you feedback about the end of your probationary period after the 6 months period, you will be automatically be regularized. (thats in our country) We only do the regularization papers for formality that you have been regularized by the company.
with the other problems you cited here. why not go to labor departments and seek for an advice. before you do any thing that will make you regret!
hope you will be ok soon with this problem
From Philippines, Cebu
As far as I know,In United Arab Emirates the minimum limit of probationary period is 3 months and maximum limit is 6 months.
You might have signed a contract with 3 months notice period.You won't get your notice period money with in a flash.....;for that employer has to terminate you(once you completed your probationary period then only it is applicable) otherwise you have to work for the entire notice period before you leave to get that money.With in probationary period above mentioned matter is not applicable...............
From United States, Milpitas
You might have signed a contract with 3 months notice period.You won't get your notice period money with in a flash.....;for that employer has to terminate you(once you completed your probationary period then only it is applicable) otherwise you have to work for the entire notice period before you leave to get that money.With in probationary period above mentioned matter is not applicable...............
From United States, Milpitas
Some useful tips.............
I want to complain to the Ministry of Labour but will they do anything?
Official complain will result in inquiry based on your complain, usually they will ask company to pay full dues within 7 days timeline. But issuance of such orders may take time.
Will this ruin my chances of getting anything back from the company when he finds out I complained?
I think this you mean your leave salary, overtime etc etc. Yes chances is that the employer will terminate you or ask you to resign. Dont resign in any case till you get all your dues. In case of termination you will get more benefit. But your employer try to invoke article 120 against you , like late coming, not obeying orders , etc etc ....
Lessons learned:- It is better to get termination rather than resigning from a third rate firm..........
From United States, Milpitas
I want to complain to the Ministry of Labour but will they do anything?
Official complain will result in inquiry based on your complain, usually they will ask company to pay full dues within 7 days timeline. But issuance of such orders may take time.
Will this ruin my chances of getting anything back from the company when he finds out I complained?
I think this you mean your leave salary, overtime etc etc. Yes chances is that the employer will terminate you or ask you to resign. Dont resign in any case till you get all your dues. In case of termination you will get more benefit. But your employer try to invoke article 120 against you , like late coming, not obeying orders , etc etc ....
Lessons learned:- It is better to get termination rather than resigning from a third rate firm..........
From United States, Milpitas
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