Hi everyone, I'm Shweta. I have a 6-year gap during my career. Now, I'm going to start my career. I have applied to many posts, but there has been no positive response. I look forward to guidance. What can I do so that I can get a job immediately? Please suggest. I have 2 years of experience as a Lecturer and 2 years of experience as an HR Executive.
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Dear Shweta,
Nowadays, companies do consider resources having gaps, provided you have a genuine reason and justification. I would suggest firstly updating yourself with all the latest trends in HR, amendments in labor laws, and current demands in the market. Lastly, work on your interpersonal skills, mainly communication, decision-making, and listening skills, which play a vital role in the HR domain.
All the best!
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Piyush
Manager HR
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11Nowadays, companies do consider resources having gaps, provided you have a genuine reason and justification. I would suggest firstly updating yourself with all the latest trends in HR, amendments in labor laws, and current demands in the market. Lastly, work on your interpersonal skills, mainly communication, decision-making, and listening skills, which play a vital role in the HR domain.
All the best!
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Piyush
Manager HR
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Dear Shweta,
Guidance on getting a job in the field of HR will come a little later. First, you need to learn how to write a post on HR forums. While the main body of your post had just a few words, the heading was far longer! Maintaining the verbatim, I have edited your post. Grammar also needs improvement.
Your post, though very small, sends a big signal about your casual attitude. If you wish to improve your career in HR, you need to shed this casualness first. This is a forum for HR professionals, and there are many senior persons. Therefore, if you learn to differentiate between the informal posts of Facebook and the formal posts of HR forums, it will serve a big purpose for yourself.
When members upload a post on this forum, they also indirectly demonstrate their communication skills, which include the sequence or the structure of the sentence, the choice of words, etc. All these reflect the mindset of the individual. Therefore, whether to impress others with a professional approach or keep others away from a casual approach, the choice is yours!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Guidance on getting a job in the field of HR will come a little later. First, you need to learn how to write a post on HR forums. While the main body of your post had just a few words, the heading was far longer! Maintaining the verbatim, I have edited your post. Grammar also needs improvement.
Your post, though very small, sends a big signal about your casual attitude. If you wish to improve your career in HR, you need to shed this casualness first. This is a forum for HR professionals, and there are many senior persons. Therefore, if you learn to differentiate between the informal posts of Facebook and the formal posts of HR forums, it will serve a big purpose for yourself.
When members upload a post on this forum, they also indirectly demonstrate their communication skills, which include the sequence or the structure of the sentence, the choice of words, etc. All these reflect the mindset of the individual. Therefore, whether to impress others with a professional approach or keep others away from a casual approach, the choice is yours!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
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Dear Shweta Madam,
Please don't get cowed down by the observations of the so-called senior colleague who mentioned that you are casual in your approach regarding seeking guidance for an HR/Lecturer's job after a career gap of six years. I am afraid it is difficult to share this misplaced and far-fetched, curt observation.
Yes, I agree that you need to work on your English, grammar, and general presentation skills, in addition to catching up on the latest trends in the HR domain if you are seeking a job in HR. In fact, with a combination of teaching and HR experience, you might be a better-suited person to explore opportunities as a Training professional as part of the HR team.
Alongside, you can hone your skills and knowledge base by joining a part-time recognized Certificate course or Diploma course in Training and Development offered by ISTD.
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HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
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Please don't get cowed down by the observations of the so-called senior colleague who mentioned that you are casual in your approach regarding seeking guidance for an HR/Lecturer's job after a career gap of six years. I am afraid it is difficult to share this misplaced and far-fetched, curt observation.
Yes, I agree that you need to work on your English, grammar, and general presentation skills, in addition to catching up on the latest trends in the HR domain if you are seeking a job in HR. In fact, with a combination of teaching and HR experience, you might be a better-suited person to explore opportunities as a Training professional as part of the HR team.
Alongside, you can hone your skills and knowledge base by joining a part-time recognized Certificate course or Diploma course in Training and Development offered by ISTD.
Regards,
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much, Nargarkar Vinayak sir, for appreciating me. Sir, you are correct, and I am working on my grammar, interpersonal, and communication skills.
Thanks, Divesh sir, for your response. This was my first post on CiteHR.
Also, thank you, Piyush sir, for your guidance.
Thanks
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Thank you so much, Nargarkar Vinayak sir, for appreciating me. Sir, you are correct, and I am working on my grammar, interpersonal, and communication skills.
Thanks, Divesh sir, for your response. This was my first post on CiteHR.
Also, thank you, Piyush sir, for your guidance.
Thanks
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Dear Mr. Vinayak Nagarkar,
This is a reply from the "so-called" senior.
Yes, my feedback was a little upfront. My frankness was for the simple reason that posts on the public forum are bound to have public scrutiny. A critical examination of the post(s) sends the right signal to the other members of this forum as well. This is a professional forum, and to maintain professionalism, straightforwardness was necessary.
You have advised the poster to take up a job in the field of HR Training. However, may I remind you that a trainer is expected to be head and shoulders above the participants? On a few occasions, trainers get participants who are far more intelligent. Standing in front of such participants is not child's play. What if they start pointing out mistakes in front of the other participants? In no time, the trainer could lose the confidence of the participants. It may, in turn, lead to a loss of credibility itself. Which client will accept that?
Nevertheless, your suggestion to take up a job in the training profession reminds me of the famous saying of George Bernard Shaw. He has said, "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."
For Shweta: You could have been a little more thoughtful while writing my name. This was in spite of the feedback from the so-called senior on your casual approach. By mistyping my name, you have provided one more evidence of how cursoriness has entered into your blood. Your casual approach has forced me to give one more advice - be choosy while selecting your future boss. Choose a boss who will mollycoddle and not the one like me who cuts short a junior's indulgence without hesitation!
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Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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This is a reply from the "so-called" senior.
Yes, my feedback was a little upfront. My frankness was for the simple reason that posts on the public forum are bound to have public scrutiny. A critical examination of the post(s) sends the right signal to the other members of this forum as well. This is a professional forum, and to maintain professionalism, straightforwardness was necessary.
You have advised the poster to take up a job in the field of HR Training. However, may I remind you that a trainer is expected to be head and shoulders above the participants? On a few occasions, trainers get participants who are far more intelligent. Standing in front of such participants is not child's play. What if they start pointing out mistakes in front of the other participants? In no time, the trainer could lose the confidence of the participants. It may, in turn, lead to a loss of credibility itself. Which client will accept that?
Nevertheless, your suggestion to take up a job in the training profession reminds me of the famous saying of George Bernard Shaw. He has said, "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."
For Shweta: You could have been a little more thoughtful while writing my name. This was in spite of the feedback from the so-called senior on your casual approach. By mistyping my name, you have provided one more evidence of how cursoriness has entered into your blood. Your casual approach has forced me to give one more advice - be choosy while selecting your future boss. Choose a boss who will mollycoddle and not the one like me who cuts short a junior's indulgence without hesitation!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the advice and guidance. Please close this thread as of now as I have got sufficient responses for the future. Thanks
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Dear Mr. Divekar,
If your approach was upfront and frank, one would have perhaps appreciated it. But yours was that of a bully, which is what prompted me to react in the first place.
Your second paragraph indicated that you have made uncalled-for assumptions. Given the proper opportunity to enter the training profession at entry or junior levels and gain experience to build the required capabilities, one learns to surpass the participants. I am sure you also went through the same process. So, where is the need for unnecessary apprehensions? Nobody is born with training capabilities, and with effort and determination, one can surely become skilled in this area.
I would have liked to refrain from replying, but your habit of misreading posts, including mine, has prompted me to respond.
I would like to close this here and do not wish to continue this any further.
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Vinayak Nagarkar
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
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If your approach was upfront and frank, one would have perhaps appreciated it. But yours was that of a bully, which is what prompted me to react in the first place.
Your second paragraph indicated that you have made uncalled-for assumptions. Given the proper opportunity to enter the training profession at entry or junior levels and gain experience to build the required capabilities, one learns to surpass the participants. I am sure you also went through the same process. So, where is the need for unnecessary apprehensions? Nobody is born with training capabilities, and with effort and determination, one can surely become skilled in this area.
I would have liked to refrain from replying, but your habit of misreading posts, including mine, has prompted me to respond.
I would like to close this here and do not wish to continue this any further.
Regards,
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Mr. Vinayak Nagarkar,
I did not wish to give a reply to your first post. Nevertheless, your comebacks forced me to do so. Your second post has false accusations. Unfortunately, I am forced to reply to clear those accusations.
You have accused me of bullying. However, there is a difference between the strictness/sternness of one's tone and bullying. Bullying means an act of intimidating. Where was the intimidation in the first reply? This is a public forum, and each post has to be seen with neutrality. A sane reader will understand the sanctity of feedback even though it is given in a forthright manner.
Your second accusation is on my assumption. What assumption did I have? Has the poster not left sufficient evidence of the egregiousness of her post? Despite this egregiousness, you have given her advice to look for a position in the training field. So, who is overlooking the facts? You or me?
It should be noted that the training field is not for someone who undervalues the quality of work or the unemployed riffraff. Whether training professionals or otherwise, customers do not featherbed the service providers. I have been a Training Manager, and for the last 14 years, I have been in training full-time. I understand the rigors of the profession best.
Your one more accusation is on misreading the posts or replies habitually. I wish you had provided evidence of misreading. All my replies are to the point, and 6694 "likes" or "appreciations" speak for themselves. No further proof is required.
Raising posts on this forum or their replies need not be a test of one's grammar or English skills. A few mistakes do creep in. However, when a member raises a post that is incompatible with his/her background, why should a vigilant member like me be a silent bystander? Whether anyone likes it or not, curt feedback was given in the past, and it will be given in the future too.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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I did not wish to give a reply to your first post. Nevertheless, your comebacks forced me to do so. Your second post has false accusations. Unfortunately, I am forced to reply to clear those accusations.
You have accused me of bullying. However, there is a difference between the strictness/sternness of one's tone and bullying. Bullying means an act of intimidating. Where was the intimidation in the first reply? This is a public forum, and each post has to be seen with neutrality. A sane reader will understand the sanctity of feedback even though it is given in a forthright manner.
Your second accusation is on my assumption. What assumption did I have? Has the poster not left sufficient evidence of the egregiousness of her post? Despite this egregiousness, you have given her advice to look for a position in the training field. So, who is overlooking the facts? You or me?
It should be noted that the training field is not for someone who undervalues the quality of work or the unemployed riffraff. Whether training professionals or otherwise, customers do not featherbed the service providers. I have been a Training Manager, and for the last 14 years, I have been in training full-time. I understand the rigors of the profession best.
Your one more accusation is on misreading the posts or replies habitually. I wish you had provided evidence of misreading. All my replies are to the point, and 6694 "likes" or "appreciations" speak for themselves. No further proof is required.
Raising posts on this forum or their replies need not be a test of one's grammar or English skills. A few mistakes do creep in. However, when a member raises a post that is incompatible with his/her background, why should a vigilant member like me be a silent bystander? Whether anyone likes it or not, curt feedback was given in the past, and it will be given in the future too.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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When one posts in a public forum, due care needs to be taken - including spacing, spelling, grammar, etc. to the best extent possible. When one aspires to be a trainer or work in HR, communication and presentation occupy a lot of importance in order to effectively convey your message. Whether a member is senior or inexperienced, if they point out an error or something the poster feels is an error, it needs to be taken in the right spirit.
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