Hi all, Plz let me know is it mandatory to have Factory act./shop & establishment registration to get the registration in EPF & ESIC?
From India, Jodhpur
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Any organisation which has employed 10 and above employees is mandatory for ESI registration & if 20 and above then its mandatory for EPF registration
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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Sir,
I know about 10 employees for ESIC and 20 employees for EPF registration.
My query was to get registration in EPF & ESI, is it mandatory to have either registration in the Factory Act or in the Shop & Establishment Act.
From India, Gurgaon
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I know about 10 employees for ESIC and 20 employees for EPF registration.
My query was to get registration in EPF & ESI, is it mandatory to have either registration in the Factory Act or in the Shop & Establishment Act.
From India, Gurgaon
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It's not mandatory to have FA/S&CE registration. But these departments are interlinked; they will need to know the information from the ESIC or PF department. On the safer side, it's better to get it immediately after the code is obtained.
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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Yes. It is a must. You have to mention the Registration No. and date in the coverage application to get code No. for coverage for PF and ESI.
From India, Hyderabad
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From India, Hyderabad
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sir, both of you has replied differently pls tell me again is it must to have registration in shop & Establishment act. to get registration in EPF & ESI,
From India, Agra
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From India, Agra
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It is mandatory only. Any doubts you may reach me I will explain
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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PF registration can be voluntary also, even in case employees are fewer than 10 or even if an establishment does not fall under the category of a factory/commercial establishment/shop. Unless coming under an exempt category or located in a non-ESI coverable area, ESIC registration is a must.
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1. Sir, there is no relationship between EPF & MPs Act, 1952, ESI Act, 1948, the Factories Act, and the Shop & Commercial Establishment Act(s) of the concerned States. The scope and coverage in these Acts are independent of each Act. No comparison can be made except that if coverage is established under these Acts, compliance is compulsory, and non-compliance may result in the prosecution of the defaulting principal employer as defined in said Acts. There can be specific exemptions as in the case of the Maternity Benefit Act, 1961, and the Employees' Compensation Act relating to some matters/benefits available under the ESI Act, 1948.
2. The person who raised this thread (anonymous) can go through the above Acts, and if there is any doubt, he can raise the same based on relevant sections and rules, etc. I feel that a comparison of different Acts is meaningless and of no use. There are various establishments that are covered or coverable under the Shop & Commercial Establishment Act (of the concerned State) as well as under the ESI Act, 1948, and EPF & MPs Act, 1952. Even if a unit is not covered under the Factories Act, it does not mean that the said unit should not be covered under the ESI Act, 1948, or even under the EPF & MPs Act, 1948. Each department conducts its surveys or inspections independently, and non-coverage by any other department under any Act is not a relevant issue.
From India, Noida
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2. The person who raised this thread (anonymous) can go through the above Acts, and if there is any doubt, he can raise the same based on relevant sections and rules, etc. I feel that a comparison of different Acts is meaningless and of no use. There are various establishments that are covered or coverable under the Shop & Commercial Establishment Act (of the concerned State) as well as under the ESI Act, 1948, and EPF & MPs Act, 1952. Even if a unit is not covered under the Factories Act, it does not mean that the said unit should not be covered under the ESI Act, 1948, or even under the EPF & MPs Act, 1948. Each department conducts its surveys or inspections independently, and non-coverage by any other department under any Act is not a relevant issue.
From India, Noida
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Respected all seniors. Many thanks to all for your valuable input. All of you have replied differently; therefore, I am still in confusion.
My query is if our organization is coverable in S & E Act. However, the organization is not registered under S & E Act. Please guide me as our organization is not registered under S & E Act despite being coverable. Please tell me, is it a must to have registration in S & E Act to get registration in PF & ESI?
From India, Gurgaon
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My query is if our organization is coverable in S & E Act. However, the organization is not registered under S & E Act. Please guide me as our organization is not registered under S & E Act despite being coverable. Please tell me, is it a must to have registration in S & E Act to get registration in PF & ESI?
From India, Gurgaon
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