Dear all,
I have a query; please share your views. Suppose an organization has Sunday as their weekly off. Now, if an employee joins the organization and has to report to their Zonal Office on Monday for training. However, the employee starts from their place on Sunday by train and argues to make that Sunday date as their Date of Joining.
My query is: Is it possible to consider a Sunday as the date of joining for new employees, even though Sunday is the weekly off for the organization and no work is conducted on that day?
I would appreciate your valuable guidance on this matter.
Thank you in advance.
From India, Delhi
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167I have a query; please share your views. Suppose an organization has Sunday as their weekly off. Now, if an employee joins the organization and has to report to their Zonal Office on Monday for training. However, the employee starts from their place on Sunday by train and argues to make that Sunday date as their Date of Joining.
My query is: Is it possible to consider a Sunday as the date of joining for new employees, even though Sunday is the weekly off for the organization and no work is conducted on that day?
I would appreciate your valuable guidance on this matter.
Thank you in advance.
From India, Delhi
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Hi Bhuwan,
It is not possible in any case to make the weekly off as a date of joining. If any new joiner is asking for this, then you should firmly tell them that it is not possible. If the person is traveling a day before, you can only reimburse the travel expenses.
Many times, people have to travel long distances within or outside the country to join new organizations (for joining/training/induction, etc.), but the travel dates cannot be considered as the date of joining.
From India, Delhi
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It is not possible in any case to make the weekly off as a date of joining. If any new joiner is asking for this, then you should firmly tell them that it is not possible. If the person is traveling a day before, you can only reimburse the travel expenses.
Many times, people have to travel long distances within or outside the country to join new organizations (for joining/training/induction, etc.), but the travel dates cannot be considered as the date of joining.
From India, Delhi
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This seems to be a strange request. The date which employee reports for work is the joining date and not the date he/she boards train/bus. So we no need to consider DOJ as Sunday
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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Hi,
I have identified an issue in this query. Without having the employee complete the formal joining process and fulfilling joining formalities, they are directly instructed to attend training. This discrepancy has caused problems, as mentioned. If the joining formalities had been completed and the joining report obtained, such a problem would not have arisen.
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V K Gupta
From India, Panipat
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I have identified an issue in this query. Without having the employee complete the formal joining process and fulfilling joining formalities, they are directly instructed to attend training. This discrepancy has caused problems, as mentioned. If the joining formalities had been completed and the joining report obtained, such a problem would not have arisen.
Thanks,
V K Gupta
From India, Panipat
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To earn a weekly day off, one should work six days a week. It is strange that a prospective candidate for employment insists on a weekly day off even before joining the job and becoming an employee, without putting in even a day's work.
B. Saikumar
From India, Mumbai
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B. Saikumar
From India, Mumbai
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Hi,
We can make Sunday the joining day if an organization is working 24/7. Here, the peculiarity is that the candidate is asked to join and go for training. Since the organization has not given time to join and go for training, the candidate should be given a fair opportunity to compensate for the working day with a maximum of travel expenses reimbursement for the amount of tension, stress, and strain undergone. HR should have some flexibility in creating first-day comfort. This may not be thought of in the banking sector.
From India, Hyderabad
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We can make Sunday the joining day if an organization is working 24/7. Here, the peculiarity is that the candidate is asked to join and go for training. Since the organization has not given time to join and go for training, the candidate should be given a fair opportunity to compensate for the working day with a maximum of travel expenses reimbursement for the amount of tension, stress, and strain undergone. HR should have some flexibility in creating first-day comfort. This may not be thought of in the banking sector.
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Bcarya,
What type of industry do you work in? Is it an IT company or another industry? "He argues to make that Sunday date as his Date of Joining," what does that mean? How can a candidate argue with HR personnel before joining?
The joining date can fall on a public holiday or a weekly off if the company or team works on that day. In your case, the person will be traveling and would join the organization on Monday. It is clear that the joining date is when an employee physically joins the organization, not the day they travel, think, prepare, or decide to join.
Thank you.
From India, Bangalore
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What type of industry do you work in? Is it an IT company or another industry? "He argues to make that Sunday date as his Date of Joining," what does that mean? How can a candidate argue with HR personnel before joining?
The joining date can fall on a public holiday or a weekly off if the company or team works on that day. In your case, the person will be traveling and would join the organization on Monday. It is clear that the joining date is when an employee physically joins the organization, not the day they travel, think, prepare, or decide to join.
Thank you.
From India, Bangalore
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Mahesh rightly pointed out that a candidate does not become an employee from the moment he makes up his mind to join a company. It is always advisable to standardize your recruitment procedures so they are uniformly applicable to all candidates to avoid dilemmas of this kind. However, as one member suggested, you can explore ways of reimbursing their travel expenses as a goodwill gesture and make it a part of the company's policy.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
From India, Mumbai
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B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
From India, Mumbai
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If that is the case where a person leaves his home on a Sunday to commute and reach his place of work the following day, usually in places like Mumbai, people leave their homes at 06.00 hours in the morning to reach their place of work at say 08.45 hours. The office hours being from 09.00 hours to 17.00 hours, would it mean the person's office timings would end at 13.00 hours simply because he/she left home at 06.00 hours?
From Tanzania, Dar Es Salaam
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