Dear All,
I am working in Medi Fir as a Sr. Executive HR. I am independently handling the Mumbai team. In our organization, one senior manager in finance got promoted as CFO recently. We used to call him by his name because he is very arrogant and has a lot of attitude. He doesn't know how to speak with female employees.
He never informs us about his leave and compensatory offs through email; instead, he directly sends them to the Delhi office. When he calls me, he insists that I address him as "sir." I told him that I usually address my boss by name and if I need to call him "sir," it should come from respect in my heart.
Please advise me on how to handle this situation. Is it necessary to address him as "sir"? I believe that if a senior is of your age, it's better to address them by name. How should I react the next time I interact with him? I prefer not to call him "sir" as I have more experience in the current organization.
I would appreciate your valuable suggestions.
Regards, Jayashree
From India, Mumbai
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6I am working in Medi Fir as a Sr. Executive HR. I am independently handling the Mumbai team. In our organization, one senior manager in finance got promoted as CFO recently. We used to call him by his name because he is very arrogant and has a lot of attitude. He doesn't know how to speak with female employees.
He never informs us about his leave and compensatory offs through email; instead, he directly sends them to the Delhi office. When he calls me, he insists that I address him as "sir." I told him that I usually address my boss by name and if I need to call him "sir," it should come from respect in my heart.
Please advise me on how to handle this situation. Is it necessary to address him as "sir"? I believe that if a senior is of your age, it's better to address them by name. How should I react the next time I interact with him? I prefer not to call him "sir" as I have more experience in the current organization.
I would appreciate your valuable suggestions.
Regards, Jayashree
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Jayashree, Just think that his name is "Sir" and then call him that. That way he will not get offended and you won't feel bad. It all depends upon the company's culture. When I worked for a firm, even the area manager was being addressed as "sir" or Mr. and not by his first name. However, in the university, I used to address the VC by his first name. Are you senior to him by position or rank too or just by the number of years of work? Have a nice day.
Simhan A retired academic in the UK
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Simhan A retired academic in the UK
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Dear Ms. Jayashree,
I second Mr. Simhan. Further, I would like to say that whether you address your CFO as "sir" or not, do respect him from the bottom of your heart. You have to build relationships as long as you all work under one roof. Be optimistic, think positive all the time, and don't let your ego destroy your professional relationship at the workplace. Be flexible.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
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I second Mr. Simhan. Further, I would like to say that whether you address your CFO as "sir" or not, do respect him from the bottom of your heart. You have to build relationships as long as you all work under one roof. Be optimistic, think positive all the time, and don't let your ego destroy your professional relationship at the workplace. Be flexible.
With profound regards.
From India, Chennai
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Hi,
You are an HR person, and you hesitate to say "Sir" to your seniors, which is quite surprising. Why does the company recruit qualified HR personnel not only for manpower record-keeping but also for bridging the gap between employees and employers, making the working environment so conducive that everyone delivers desirable results? Do you see my point?
In your case, as you are the sole HR in the Mumbai Division and you are only a Senior Executive, that means you are junior to him. I don't think if you address him as "Sir," your status will decrease.
In our personal lives, we respect our elders from our hearts. Similarly, when you are working in a company, it becomes your working home where you learn to survive and must respect everyone, including seniors, peers, colleagues, and subordinates. For this reason, every company has a hierarchical structure for work. Without it, there would be no designations and no need for HR personnel.
Have a nice day.
From India
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You are an HR person, and you hesitate to say "Sir" to your seniors, which is quite surprising. Why does the company recruit qualified HR personnel not only for manpower record-keeping but also for bridging the gap between employees and employers, making the working environment so conducive that everyone delivers desirable results? Do you see my point?
In your case, as you are the sole HR in the Mumbai Division and you are only a Senior Executive, that means you are junior to him. I don't think if you address him as "Sir," your status will decrease.
In our personal lives, we respect our elders from our hearts. Similarly, when you are working in a company, it becomes your working home where you learn to survive and must respect everyone, including seniors, peers, colleagues, and subordinates. For this reason, every company has a hierarchical structure for work. Without it, there would be no designations and no need for HR personnel.
Have a nice day.
From India
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Hi Jayashree,
I agree with the statement made by Mr. Simhan; it depends on the company's culture. However, I don't understand why you only refer to him by his name just because you find him arrogant and having an attitude. This may reflect your own attitude as well. There is no harm in addressing male seniors or bosses as "sir," as it signifies professional respect.
You may have worked in a different organizational culture previously where calling male seniors by their names was acceptable. However, in your current company, you must adhere to its culture. Despite any personal feelings, it is important to show respect to seniors, regardless of their behavior.
While you may have more experience, his new position as CFO makes him more senior in authority. It is crucial to show respect, even if he is not demonstrating it towards you.
I understand your sentiment of respect, but it is vital to maintain professionalism in your interactions. Limit your communication with him if possible, but always maintain respect. I hope this clarifies my point, and I apologize if my words have caused any offense.
From India, Gurgaon
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I agree with the statement made by Mr. Simhan; it depends on the company's culture. However, I don't understand why you only refer to him by his name just because you find him arrogant and having an attitude. This may reflect your own attitude as well. There is no harm in addressing male seniors or bosses as "sir," as it signifies professional respect.
You may have worked in a different organizational culture previously where calling male seniors by their names was acceptable. However, in your current company, you must adhere to its culture. Despite any personal feelings, it is important to show respect to seniors, regardless of their behavior.
While you may have more experience, his new position as CFO makes him more senior in authority. It is crucial to show respect, even if he is not demonstrating it towards you.
I understand your sentiment of respect, but it is vital to maintain professionalism in your interactions. Limit your communication with him if possible, but always maintain respect. I hope this clarifies my point, and I apologize if my words have caused any offense.
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear Ms. Jayashree,
In India, if you have money and influence at any university level, you can buy an honorary doctor title, similar to how politicians purchase the same. However, in Britain, "Sir" is a title given to those excelling in their field.
In India, we use "Sir" to address elders, seniors, and superiors, which is an abbreviation for "S-Stupid, I-Idiot, R-Rascal" (in a light-hearted manner). When referring to incompetent individuals who do not deserve to be called "Sir," you are using the second abbreviated form of "SIR."
You may emphasize the "SIR" when addressing such individuals. We must navigate this world of "SIRs."
That's why I instruct my subordinates not to address me as "Sir" but to simply add "Mr." in front of my name to show respect.
From India, Kumbakonam
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In India, if you have money and influence at any university level, you can buy an honorary doctor title, similar to how politicians purchase the same. However, in Britain, "Sir" is a title given to those excelling in their field.
In India, we use "Sir" to address elders, seniors, and superiors, which is an abbreviation for "S-Stupid, I-Idiot, R-Rascal" (in a light-hearted manner). When referring to incompetent individuals who do not deserve to be called "Sir," you are using the second abbreviated form of "SIR."
You may emphasize the "SIR" when addressing such individuals. We must navigate this world of "SIRs."
That's why I instruct my subordinates not to address me as "Sir" but to simply add "Mr." in front of my name to show respect.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Hi dear readers,
With reference to the above wonderful discussion, I have a related query. If male seniors are to be addressed as "Sirs," what shall be the title for female seniors? Please advise.
Thanks and best wishes.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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With reference to the above wonderful discussion, I have a related query. If male seniors are to be addressed as "Sirs," what shall be the title for female seniors? Please advise.
Thanks and best wishes.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
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Madam or 'Mam' for short. Kindly see When should one stop using 'SIR' for older men? [Archive] - Straight Dope Message Board and http://www.dailywritingtips.com/maam...l-colonialism/ they shed some light on how culture and norms play a part. Both can be found at http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy...mp;amp;bih=506. I do not know whether the program Judge Judy is shown in India. I recall that she addresses the persons involved in the case as "sir" at times.
When we were attending a German language class (50 years ago), the teacher had told us, "when in Germany, do not take liberty; address men as Herr xxxx (Mr. xxxx) unless they tell you to do otherwise."
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
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When we were attending a German language class (50 years ago), the teacher had told us, "when in Germany, do not take liberty; address men as Herr xxxx (Mr. xxxx) unless they tell you to do otherwise."
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
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Western companies follow the culture of calling by name. But in India, we call as Sir for seniors as most of the seniors expect the title Sir to be used. Pon
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I have worked in the West for 40 years. Even here, it depends upon the company and its culture. One can only say, in general, it is not universal. Usually, British firms are more conservative than the American ones. I have no experience or knowledge of French or German firms.
Please see my post in this thread.
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Please see my post in this thread.
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Hi everyone,
Why is there such a great fuss! We address so many unknown individuals as "Dear Sir," why can't people known to us be addressed the same way? Adding a little courtesy when you talk can solve a lot of unwanted friction in your workplace.
Regards,
Elizabeth Paul
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Why is there such a great fuss! We address so many unknown individuals as "Dear Sir," why can't people known to us be addressed the same way? Adding a little courtesy when you talk can solve a lot of unwanted friction in your workplace.
Regards,
Elizabeth Paul
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Dear Ms. Elizabeth,
You haven't understood the scenario between Senior Executive - HR and the recently promoted CFO from Senior Manager - Finance. This thread is not exactly about calling someone as 'Sir,' but it's about the ego that has created distance between two employees of the same age where one employee is senior by seniority (number of years in the same organization) and the other is senior by designation. Now, please provide us with your input on how to solve this issue.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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You haven't understood the scenario between Senior Executive - HR and the recently promoted CFO from Senior Manager - Finance. This thread is not exactly about calling someone as 'Sir,' but it's about the ego that has created distance between two employees of the same age where one employee is senior by seniority (number of years in the same organization) and the other is senior by designation. Now, please provide us with your input on how to solve this issue.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Hi Jayashree,
I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an engineer, during 1980, I was on deputation to my parent company in Australia for six months. My boss was none other than Mr. KPK Chaitra, who happens to be the son of the famous poet of Karnataka, namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him, I addressed him as "Sir." He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as "Chai." The change could not come to me immediately, and for a few days, I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. I got used to it. In Australia, all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name, which comes later, as a mark of respect. We have got used to using "Sir" to address all our associates only when we are under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss or when you want a favor from someone. In the latter case, we even go to the extent of falling at their feet, garlanding them, bribing them, and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one needs to be addressed as "Sir/Madam" or something extra special to please or make them smile. If you are doing your job sincerely and are paid for it, and if you don't expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet, you can continue to call your associate by their name. Their arrogance is of no importance to you, and you can ignore it. Even they are working for the organization and are paid for it. Gradually, both of you will become accustomed to the new relationship without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From India, Bangalore
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I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an engineer, during 1980, I was on deputation to my parent company in Australia for six months. My boss was none other than Mr. KPK Chaitra, who happens to be the son of the famous poet of Karnataka, namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him, I addressed him as "Sir." He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as "Chai." The change could not come to me immediately, and for a few days, I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. I got used to it. In Australia, all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name, which comes later, as a mark of respect. We have got used to using "Sir" to address all our associates only when we are under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss or when you want a favor from someone. In the latter case, we even go to the extent of falling at their feet, garlanding them, bribing them, and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one needs to be addressed as "Sir/Madam" or something extra special to please or make them smile. If you are doing your job sincerely and are paid for it, and if you don't expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet, you can continue to call your associate by their name. Their arrogance is of no importance to you, and you can ignore it. Even they are working for the organization and are paid for it. Gradually, both of you will become accustomed to the new relationship without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From India, Bangalore
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It's not necessary to call all your seniors "Sir". According to me, we should call "Sir" to whom we are directly reporting, and other superiors we can call them by their first name or by Mr./Ms. and their first name.
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Dear Sundarkumar,
Thank you for the input. However, I would like to point out that Australia is a different country. Like in the West, they all have first names and surnames. As I have mentioned in a previous post, even in the UK, not everyone takes liberty in calling people of higher rank by their first (Christian) name. It is customary to call them by their surname with a prefix (Mr., Dr., Mrs., etc.). Usually, the person concerned will give permission or say, "Call me XXX." I do not have a first name; my initials are from my father's name. To avoid problems in the UK, I have a nickname.
Aping the West is not always advisable. For example, kids from English families call adults by their first name. Would you like that to happen in India? Even in the UK, in 'Cultured' families, kids used to address other adults as uncle and aunties. Our childminder was addressed by everyone as 'Aunty Lewis.' Here, some boys and girls call their in-laws by their first name; would that be acceptable in India?
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
Hi Jayashree,
I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an Engineer, during 1980, I was on deputation to my parent company in Australia for six months. My boss was none other than Mr. KPK Chaitra, who happens to be the son of the famous Poet of Karnataka, namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him, I addressed him as Sir. He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as Chai. The change could not come to me immediately, and for a few days, I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. I got used to it. In Australia, all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name, which comes later, as a mark of respect. We have gotten used to using Sir to address all our associates, only when we are under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss or when you want a favor from someone. In the latter case, we even go to the extent of falling at their feet, garlanding them, bribing them, and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one needs to be addressed as Sir/Madam or something extra special to please or make them smile. You are doing your job sincerely, and you are paid for it. If you don't expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet, you can continue to call your associate by their name. Their arrogance is of no importance to you, and ignore the same. Even they are working for the organization and are paid for it. Gradually, both of you will be accustomed to the new relationship, without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From United Kingdom
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Thank you for the input. However, I would like to point out that Australia is a different country. Like in the West, they all have first names and surnames. As I have mentioned in a previous post, even in the UK, not everyone takes liberty in calling people of higher rank by their first (Christian) name. It is customary to call them by their surname with a prefix (Mr., Dr., Mrs., etc.). Usually, the person concerned will give permission or say, "Call me XXX." I do not have a first name; my initials are from my father's name. To avoid problems in the UK, I have a nickname.
Aping the West is not always advisable. For example, kids from English families call adults by their first name. Would you like that to happen in India? Even in the UK, in 'Cultured' families, kids used to address other adults as uncle and aunties. Our childminder was addressed by everyone as 'Aunty Lewis.' Here, some boys and girls call their in-laws by their first name; would that be acceptable in India?
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
Hi Jayashree,
I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an Engineer, during 1980, I was on deputation to my parent company in Australia for six months. My boss was none other than Mr. KPK Chaitra, who happens to be the son of the famous Poet of Karnataka, namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him, I addressed him as Sir. He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as Chai. The change could not come to me immediately, and for a few days, I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. I got used to it. In Australia, all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name, which comes later, as a mark of respect. We have gotten used to using Sir to address all our associates, only when we are under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss or when you want a favor from someone. In the latter case, we even go to the extent of falling at their feet, garlanding them, bribing them, and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one needs to be addressed as Sir/Madam or something extra special to please or make them smile. You are doing your job sincerely, and you are paid for it. If you don't expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet, you can continue to call your associate by their name. Their arrogance is of no importance to you, and ignore the same. Even they are working for the organization and are paid for it. Gradually, both of you will be accustomed to the new relationship, without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From United Kingdom
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It depends on company to company culture. In some companies, they only use "Mr." and the surname. It is not important to say "Sir" or "Mr.," but it is important to have respect for seniors by heart.
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Hr/Payroll System Consultant
From India, Delhi
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Hr/Payroll System Consultant
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Dear Jayashree,
I see no harm in you calling a person who is officially your senior as 'Sir'. You must do so. In fact, I think you should go a step further and address some other colleagues in a similar manner, especially while speaking of official matters. It would make it easier for you to utter the word.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
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I see no harm in you calling a person who is officially your senior as 'Sir'. You must do so. In fact, I think you should go a step further and address some other colleagues in a similar manner, especially while speaking of official matters. It would make it easier for you to utter the word.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
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Hi Jayashree,
Calling your colleagues Sir or Ma'am definitely creates a pleasant atmosphere around you. However, if someone asks you to address them as Sir, never do that. One should strive to earn respect through their own behavior towards others.
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Calling your colleagues Sir or Ma'am definitely creates a pleasant atmosphere around you. However, if someone asks you to address them as Sir, never do that. One should strive to earn respect through their own behavior towards others.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Mr. SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR,
Thank you for assuming! You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and the recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE. In case the company announces a young CEO, do we have the real guts to call him by name, no matter how long we have known him? As professionals, we are supposed to suppress our egos and think, "Am I on the right path to achieve my goals," and also enable the smooth functioning of the organization.
I am a senior person working in an organization, and I don't have any ego addressing my managers/CEO much younger than me as Sir. It never hurts when they address me as Mrs./Ma'am/by name.
With profound regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Thank you for assuming! You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and the recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE. In case the company announces a young CEO, do we have the real guts to call him by name, no matter how long we have known him? As professionals, we are supposed to suppress our egos and think, "Am I on the right path to achieve my goals," and also enable the smooth functioning of the organization.
I am a senior person working in an organization, and I don't have any ego addressing my managers/CEO much younger than me as Sir. It never hurts when they address me as Mrs./Ma'am/by name.
With profound regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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I agree with all the answers. Calling someone "Sir" will not reduce your self-respect, and it will not change your position. It depends on the company culture.
I once received a warning (although it was in a humorous tone) stating that if I referred to someone as "Sir," I would be fired. The person who conveyed this message was the Managing Director. So, just enjoy your job.
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I once received a warning (although it was in a humorous tone) stating that if I referred to someone as "Sir," I would be fired. The person who conveyed this message was the Managing Director. So, just enjoy your job.
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Hi All,
I totally disagree with your views on addressing elderly people in corporate as "SIR" or "MAM". I work for an MNC, where we do not address anyone by SIR or MAM; instead, we call them by their first name, regardless of their designation - CEO, CFO, Manager, Receptionist, or Office boy. Referring to someone as SIR without using their name creates a significant difference and gap that implies, "he is the big important guy and you are not," solely based on their designation or high salary.
If you aspire to work in a corporate environment, it is essential to treat everyone equally. I recall an incident when my friend, who worked at Office Tigers in Chennai, shared that one day, while in the lift, the CEO joined him. My friend greeted him with "Good Morning SIR," to which the CEO responded, "Good Morning, please address me by my name, Tony. Have a good day." This incident left a positive impression on my friend.
Lastly, respect should be earned and not demanded.
From India, Madras
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I totally disagree with your views on addressing elderly people in corporate as "SIR" or "MAM". I work for an MNC, where we do not address anyone by SIR or MAM; instead, we call them by their first name, regardless of their designation - CEO, CFO, Manager, Receptionist, or Office boy. Referring to someone as SIR without using their name creates a significant difference and gap that implies, "he is the big important guy and you are not," solely based on their designation or high salary.
If you aspire to work in a corporate environment, it is essential to treat everyone equally. I recall an incident when my friend, who worked at Office Tigers in Chennai, shared that one day, while in the lift, the CEO joined him. My friend greeted him with "Good Morning SIR," to which the CEO responded, "Good Morning, please address me by my name, Tony. Have a good day." This incident left a positive impression on my friend.
Lastly, respect should be earned and not demanded.
From India, Madras
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Hi,
This is Amrutha, Jr. Executive in Care Hospitals from Visakhapatnam. All discussions are very fine, but some points of view disappointed me. Dividing the male and female wording is unnecessary in this discussion. Here, designations and experience do not define a person's manner; we should respect every employee and employer based on their job description. Everyone has skills and education; it depends on their cultural background.
Thank you.
With Regards,
T. Amruthavalli, HR Executive, Care Hospital, Visakhapatnam.
From India
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This is Amrutha, Jr. Executive in Care Hospitals from Visakhapatnam. All discussions are very fine, but some points of view disappointed me. Dividing the male and female wording is unnecessary in this discussion. Here, designations and experience do not define a person's manner; we should respect every employee and employer based on their job description. Everyone has skills and education; it depends on their cultural background.
Thank you.
With Regards,
T. Amruthavalli, HR Executive, Care Hospital, Visakhapatnam.
From India
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Dear friends,
Ms. Jayashree is not thinking about the future of the company; she is struggling with some ego and attitude problems. As the CFO, she needs to have a good relationship with senior people. Top management should not be subject to Jayashree's HR rules (leave rules). They are focused on the company's vision, and Jayashree should support them and show respect. While it is not necessary to address them as "Sir," it all depends on the culture and people's attitudes.
Jayashree, reflect on your actions and consider where you may be making mistakes!
Sorry if you don't appreciate my comments.
Munimani
Sr. Engineer in the Oil and Gas Industry
From India, Pune
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Ms. Jayashree is not thinking about the future of the company; she is struggling with some ego and attitude problems. As the CFO, she needs to have a good relationship with senior people. Top management should not be subject to Jayashree's HR rules (leave rules). They are focused on the company's vision, and Jayashree should support them and show respect. While it is not necessary to address them as "Sir," it all depends on the culture and people's attitudes.
Jayashree, reflect on your actions and consider where you may be making mistakes!
Sorry if you don't appreciate my comments.
Munimani
Sr. Engineer in the Oil and Gas Industry
From India, Pune
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Dear All,
"Sir" is a title bestowed only by the Queen of England. It's a designation given by the Queen to people for their services. It's very silly of people to address others as "Sir" in the normal course of work. You address a person by their first name when you share a very friendly or close relationship with them. In a professional scenario, it's always better to address them with a title such as Miss/Mrs/Mr. In the olden days, only slaves were addressed by their first name without a title, and some people even today find it offensive if someone calls them by their first name without a title, especially when there isn't a close relationship.
People have to earn respect; it should not be commanded. Never decide anything under pressure or duress, and also never do things that your heart says no to.
Regards,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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"Sir" is a title bestowed only by the Queen of England. It's a designation given by the Queen to people for their services. It's very silly of people to address others as "Sir" in the normal course of work. You address a person by their first name when you share a very friendly or close relationship with them. In a professional scenario, it's always better to address them with a title such as Miss/Mrs/Mr. In the olden days, only slaves were addressed by their first name without a title, and some people even today find it offensive if someone calls them by their first name without a title, especially when there isn't a close relationship.
People have to earn respect; it should not be commanded. Never decide anything under pressure or duress, and also never do things that your heart says no to.
Regards,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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It all depends on your ego.
In my previous organization (Apollotyres), the Chief of HR used to address me as Sir when I was a Graduate Engineer Trainee. I was astonished. He was such a powerful and strong man, and I can't believe it. Naturally, a deep respect for him came from my heart. From that day onwards, I also started a culture of calling my seniors, colleagues, and even juniors Sir, and most people reciprocated in the same way.
In my current organization (Oman Air - Muscat), all are addressed by Mr. Name only, but I started to call everyone Sir, and I felt the difference. Some reciprocated by calling me Chief. One of the greatest superstars in India, Rajnikanth, addresses even a light boy as Sir, which creates a special place in that person's heart (in Tamil Nadu, that is the culture).
Once the great Dhirubhai Ambani said, "I don't hesitate to call a government peon Sir if he can move a file for me from one table to another." So give up ego, earn respect from others, and be a great person.
From Oman, Muscat
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In my previous organization (Apollotyres), the Chief of HR used to address me as Sir when I was a Graduate Engineer Trainee. I was astonished. He was such a powerful and strong man, and I can't believe it. Naturally, a deep respect for him came from my heart. From that day onwards, I also started a culture of calling my seniors, colleagues, and even juniors Sir, and most people reciprocated in the same way.
In my current organization (Oman Air - Muscat), all are addressed by Mr. Name only, but I started to call everyone Sir, and I felt the difference. Some reciprocated by calling me Chief. One of the greatest superstars in India, Rajnikanth, addresses even a light boy as Sir, which creates a special place in that person's heart (in Tamil Nadu, that is the culture).
Once the great Dhirubhai Ambani said, "I don't hesitate to call a government peon Sir if he can move a file for me from one table to another." So give up ego, earn respect from others, and be a great person.
From Oman, Muscat
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Dear Ms. Elizabeth Paul,
I would be glad if you could submit the same post to Ms. Jayashree because she needs to understand much more than me or other members, as she has raised her query seeking guidance.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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I would be glad if you could submit the same post to Ms. Jayashree because she needs to understand much more than me or other members, as she has raised her query seeking guidance.
With profound regards,
From India, Chennai
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Hi, this is Dikpalak here.
I don't know why there is so much hullabaloo over a trivial issue like whether to address anybody as "sir"!! In any corporate atmosphere, forget about seniors, but even peers have to be addressed as "sir." Why does anybody feel small in addressing somebody as "sir"? I would call even a junior as "sir" if he has something valuable for me to learn. Let us make a habit of calling others "sir"; then it will be so common for us that we won't feel it as a shame. Let it come naturally. At least it will make us look good for sure. We have to care about our conscience and attitude. Objects raise a concern about our character and not others.
Take my word; I have learned it through experience. It seldom goes wrong.
Best of luck, dear.
Dikpalak [in good faith]
From India, Mumbai
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I don't know why there is so much hullabaloo over a trivial issue like whether to address anybody as "sir"!! In any corporate atmosphere, forget about seniors, but even peers have to be addressed as "sir." Why does anybody feel small in addressing somebody as "sir"? I would call even a junior as "sir" if he has something valuable for me to learn. Let us make a habit of calling others "sir"; then it will be so common for us that we won't feel it as a shame. Let it come naturally. At least it will make us look good for sure. We have to care about our conscience and attitude. Objects raise a concern about our character and not others.
Take my word; I have learned it through experience. It seldom goes wrong.
Best of luck, dear.
Dikpalak [in good faith]
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Jaya,
My perspective on this issue is that you should always stand for your self-respect but don't mix your self-respect with your ego. It happens with almost everyone that sometimes we don't like some of our colleagues, but still, we have to learn how to deal with them, when to stay calm, and when to be firm with those colleagues.
Here, the CFO specifically pointed out not to address him as "SIR," so I would advise you not to prolong this issue any further and start addressing him as "Sir." It's not mandatory that it comes from your heart, but try to learn to be diplomatic sometimes. I read your forum where you straightforwardly mentioned that you don't give him much respect. Avoid saying these words to anyone. Wait for the right time and always choose your words carefully.
Please let me know if you need further clarification or assistance.
From India, Delhi
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My perspective on this issue is that you should always stand for your self-respect but don't mix your self-respect with your ego. It happens with almost everyone that sometimes we don't like some of our colleagues, but still, we have to learn how to deal with them, when to stay calm, and when to be firm with those colleagues.
Here, the CFO specifically pointed out not to address him as "SIR," so I would advise you not to prolong this issue any further and start addressing him as "Sir." It's not mandatory that it comes from your heart, but try to learn to be diplomatic sometimes. I read your forum where you straightforwardly mentioned that you don't give him much respect. Avoid saying these words to anyone. Wait for the right time and always choose your words carefully.
Please let me know if you need further clarification or assistance.
From India, Delhi
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Hi Jayashree,
In simple words, I will say: Give Respect & Take Respect. No one noticed one thing - that he is not following the company's policies. He has to inform his Local HR about his leave & Comp Off. You should clarify all these things to him as he has to follow HR practices, and if he refuses, then take it in writing from him that he is not going to communicate all this to you. After all, both are working for the company, and both have to follow the company's rules and regulations.
Thanks & Regards,
PAWAN
From India, Pune
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In simple words, I will say: Give Respect & Take Respect. No one noticed one thing - that he is not following the company's policies. He has to inform his Local HR about his leave & Comp Off. You should clarify all these things to him as he has to follow HR practices, and if he refuses, then take it in writing from him that he is not going to communicate all this to you. After all, both are working for the company, and both have to follow the company's rules and regulations.
Thanks & Regards,
PAWAN
From India, Pune
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What is the harm in giving respect to a senior? Unfortunately, the professional world doesn't understand the charm of giving. It's all about expecting. The best thing you can do is to perform actions that are positive and righteous without expecting anything in return. Expectation kills.
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Jayashree,
Being an HR person, you have to understand that the issue you are raising has a lot to do with the culture of the organization where you work and not just your perspective.
It is very important that you maintain a strong, positive relationship with your subordinates, peers, and superiors in the organization if you want to be successful.
If your working relationship with the CEO is not smooth, it is going to create a lot of heartburn for you in the times to come, making the workplace a difficult environment for you.
There are situations where sometimes juniors or less experienced employees are promoted over highly qualified experienced ones. This is not only limited to India but is very much evident worldwide, whether in MNCs or small enterprises.
Therefore, the only advice I can give you is that you have to fall in line with the culture of the organization where you presently work, whether you like it or not. You cannot carry on with personal grudges or egos, ignoring the values, norms, and accepted behaviors of the company.
Hence, try to build a strong professional relationship with your superiors and peers and respect the company culture. If you have to address somebody you don't like as "Sir" or "Madam," please do so. Otherwise, you will not be able to survive in the organization.
Best wishes,
HS Jayawardana
Sri Lanka
From Sri Lanka
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Being an HR person, you have to understand that the issue you are raising has a lot to do with the culture of the organization where you work and not just your perspective.
It is very important that you maintain a strong, positive relationship with your subordinates, peers, and superiors in the organization if you want to be successful.
If your working relationship with the CEO is not smooth, it is going to create a lot of heartburn for you in the times to come, making the workplace a difficult environment for you.
There are situations where sometimes juniors or less experienced employees are promoted over highly qualified experienced ones. This is not only limited to India but is very much evident worldwide, whether in MNCs or small enterprises.
Therefore, the only advice I can give you is that you have to fall in line with the culture of the organization where you presently work, whether you like it or not. You cannot carry on with personal grudges or egos, ignoring the values, norms, and accepted behaviors of the company.
Hence, try to build a strong professional relationship with your superiors and peers and respect the company culture. If you have to address somebody you don't like as "Sir" or "Madam," please do so. Otherwise, you will not be able to survive in the organization.
Best wishes,
HS Jayawardana
Sri Lanka
From Sri Lanka
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Hi,
I would suggest acting like an HR. Even if you dislike the person, HR should not show it. You should smile and get over it.
I was in a similar situation. I had joined this small company with 100 employees as an HR. The Finance manager here was rude. He handled the company's accounts alone, so he felt like a king and thought he could treat people poorly. When I used to see emails from him with rude remarks like "HR team is good for nothing" or "data is always wrong," it was challenging.
My boss hired me to take over all HR roles for the company. When I completed my knowledge transfer and started working directly with this Finance manager, I realized he was not perfect either. He made many errors, but no one had been there to validate the data, so he escaped scrutiny.
Please note that even though I found errors in his work, I never embarrassed him in front of others. I always sent emails directly to him, highlighting his mistakes, and informed my boss verbally.
Now he is more bearable, even if he is not a sweetheart.
Think along these lines: being aggressive never solved anything. Look at Hitler ;)
Leave your ego aside, address him as "Sir." You and he both know it's not out of respect. Keep an eye on him; he is human and tends to make mistakes.
Regards,
Neethu.
From India, Bangalore
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I would suggest acting like an HR. Even if you dislike the person, HR should not show it. You should smile and get over it.
I was in a similar situation. I had joined this small company with 100 employees as an HR. The Finance manager here was rude. He handled the company's accounts alone, so he felt like a king and thought he could treat people poorly. When I used to see emails from him with rude remarks like "HR team is good for nothing" or "data is always wrong," it was challenging.
My boss hired me to take over all HR roles for the company. When I completed my knowledge transfer and started working directly with this Finance manager, I realized he was not perfect either. He made many errors, but no one had been there to validate the data, so he escaped scrutiny.
Please note that even though I found errors in his work, I never embarrassed him in front of others. I always sent emails directly to him, highlighting his mistakes, and informed my boss verbally.
Now he is more bearable, even if he is not a sweetheart.
Think along these lines: being aggressive never solved anything. Look at Hitler ;)
Leave your ego aside, address him as "Sir." You and he both know it's not out of respect. Keep an eye on him; he is human and tends to make mistakes.
Regards,
Neethu.
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Ma'am,
It is all up to you whether to respect any person or not because we get what we give to others. Your senior is receiving what he has done to others, but if you act like him, it will not solve any problem. The best approach would be to address him as Mr. + Surname.
This should resolve the issue. Addressing him as Mr. + Surname is a very professional way to address anybody. It will neither create tension between you and your arrogant senior nor look unprofessional. There are many people at the workplace whom we may not like, whether they are arrogant, bad at speaking, or difficult to deal with, but we should always remember that we work for a specific company. If we do not uphold its culture, we are not being good employees. Now, cheer up and stay calm. If he causes more trouble, try to communicate with the seniors in your company, establish a TAT (turnaround time) and work procedure, and act accordingly as per the established procedure.
Thanks,
From India, New Delhi
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It is all up to you whether to respect any person or not because we get what we give to others. Your senior is receiving what he has done to others, but if you act like him, it will not solve any problem. The best approach would be to address him as Mr. + Surname.
This should resolve the issue. Addressing him as Mr. + Surname is a very professional way to address anybody. It will neither create tension between you and your arrogant senior nor look unprofessional. There are many people at the workplace whom we may not like, whether they are arrogant, bad at speaking, or difficult to deal with, but we should always remember that we work for a specific company. If we do not uphold its culture, we are not being good employees. Now, cheer up and stay calm. If he causes more trouble, try to communicate with the seniors in your company, establish a TAT (turnaround time) and work procedure, and act accordingly as per the established procedure.
Thanks,
From India, New Delhi
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Dear all,
If he is older than you with more experience, you can call him Sir. If he is junior to you in position, you can address him as Mr. or by his first name. However, regardless of position, showing respect towards coworkers is a fundamental attitude for HR professionals. As a senior HR professional, I make a point to respect everyone. I even address my assistant with words of respect, ensuring they have a positive perception of me and feel valued. Respecting elders is not just about age; it also reflects our manners and kindness towards others. In India, both men and women hold a tradition of respecting their elders, which differs from Western culture. Let go of any ego and show respect to all, regardless of seniority. Remember, in HR, it's about managing people as valuable resources. Reflect on this.
Thank you.
From Kuwait, Kuwait
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If he is older than you with more experience, you can call him Sir. If he is junior to you in position, you can address him as Mr. or by his first name. However, regardless of position, showing respect towards coworkers is a fundamental attitude for HR professionals. As a senior HR professional, I make a point to respect everyone. I even address my assistant with words of respect, ensuring they have a positive perception of me and feel valued. Respecting elders is not just about age; it also reflects our manners and kindness towards others. In India, both men and women hold a tradition of respecting their elders, which differs from Western culture. Let go of any ego and show respect to all, regardless of seniority. Remember, in HR, it's about managing people as valuable resources. Reflect on this.
Thank you.
From Kuwait, Kuwait
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Are you going to lose anything by calling him "SIR"? Is he gaining anything when you call him "SIR"? Nothing is going to happen. Please address him as "SIR," finish it off. Why end up in unnecessary fuss for yourself. Also, please understand that just because we call anyone by name, we cannot address everyone by name.
From India, Coimbatore
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Hi Jayasree,
If someone is professional, he/she will not spend time scrutinizing how you address him, whether as sir or by his/her name. They will be more focused on their day-to-day work and won't find time to analyze how you address them. They simply dedicate their heart and soul to the organization and invest their valuable time for which they are hired. As an HR manager, you should be attentive when addressing somebody because you need to foster diplomacy in your organization. Even if someone comes across as arrogant, they may not exhibit that behavior throughout all office hours. As human beings, they also appreciate jokes, music, food, etc. When initiating conversations, it's beneficial to start with general topics such as the Global financial crisis or challenges in recruiting candidates. Once you establish a positive atmosphere, the individual may open up, allowing you to understand their concerns. This insight can help you determine if they are a good fit for the organization. If you perceive someone negatively, consider communicating with them through gentle emails. Conversely, if you view them positively, opt for direct conversations rather than relying solely on emails. Additionally, consider the individual's age; generally, men may not prefer being addressed by their names by a younger lady, irrespective of their roles.
Hence, it's crucial to practice diplomacy and recognize that male candidates supporting you may not do so out of sympathy towards you but due to jealousy or resentment towards the individual in question.
From India, New Delhi
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If someone is professional, he/she will not spend time scrutinizing how you address him, whether as sir or by his/her name. They will be more focused on their day-to-day work and won't find time to analyze how you address them. They simply dedicate their heart and soul to the organization and invest their valuable time for which they are hired. As an HR manager, you should be attentive when addressing somebody because you need to foster diplomacy in your organization. Even if someone comes across as arrogant, they may not exhibit that behavior throughout all office hours. As human beings, they also appreciate jokes, music, food, etc. When initiating conversations, it's beneficial to start with general topics such as the Global financial crisis or challenges in recruiting candidates. Once you establish a positive atmosphere, the individual may open up, allowing you to understand their concerns. This insight can help you determine if they are a good fit for the organization. If you perceive someone negatively, consider communicating with them through gentle emails. Conversely, if you view them positively, opt for direct conversations rather than relying solely on emails. Additionally, consider the individual's age; generally, men may not prefer being addressed by their names by a younger lady, irrespective of their roles.
Hence, it's crucial to practice diplomacy and recognize that male candidates supporting you may not do so out of sympathy towards you but due to jealousy or resentment towards the individual in question.
From India, New Delhi
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Dear all,
The above discussion refers to our slave mentality imparted by the Britishers, and it exists only in India (Hindustan - which includes India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh).
Across the world, men are addressed as Mr. XXXX, and women as Madam/mam. We have a very rich cultural heritage in India, so why do people still carry on with this slave mentality? We can address a man by adding 'Ji' to his name, which would be more respectful and appropriate.
I hope my friends Jayshreeji, Simhanji, Abdulji, Anilji, Vikasji, Zulfikarji, Bhaskarji, and Nikhilji would understand my views with a true Indian spirit.
Jai Hind,
Lalit
From India, Ahmadabad
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The above discussion refers to our slave mentality imparted by the Britishers, and it exists only in India (Hindustan - which includes India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh).
Across the world, men are addressed as Mr. XXXX, and women as Madam/mam. We have a very rich cultural heritage in India, so why do people still carry on with this slave mentality? We can address a man by adding 'Ji' to his name, which would be more respectful and appropriate.
I hope my friends Jayshreeji, Simhanji, Abdulji, Anilji, Vikasji, Zulfikarji, Bhaskarji, and Nikhilji would understand my views with a true Indian spirit.
Jai Hind,
Lalit
From India, Ahmadabad
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HI To all Its Nice to see a Good contribution from all of you SIR & Mam But i dont find this in all the thread why?????????????????????????????????????????????
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Hi Jayashree,
I have seen your letter. Firstly, it is important to understand that as an HR professional, you should have patience because our responsibility is to protect human resources and ensure proper planning of resources when needed. Instead of trying to diminish someone by addressing them as "Sir," remember that it is not about being inferior to them but rather about avoiding unnecessary arguments.
Regarding the words spoken by others, it is said that God has given us two ears; we can choose to ignore certain things that do not serve us well.
All HR personnel are compensated by company management, not solely by the CEO. Focus on your job, do it well, and when it comes to communication, report all relevant matters to your immediate supervisor, as they are the person you rely on.
Everything will be streamlined in a few days.
Regards,
Raj
Assistant Manager
9003503082
From India, Madras
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I have seen your letter. Firstly, it is important to understand that as an HR professional, you should have patience because our responsibility is to protect human resources and ensure proper planning of resources when needed. Instead of trying to diminish someone by addressing them as "Sir," remember that it is not about being inferior to them but rather about avoiding unnecessary arguments.
Regarding the words spoken by others, it is said that God has given us two ears; we can choose to ignore certain things that do not serve us well.
All HR personnel are compensated by company management, not solely by the CEO. Focus on your job, do it well, and when it comes to communication, report all relevant matters to your immediate supervisor, as they are the person you rely on.
Everything will be streamlined in a few days.
Regards,
Raj
Assistant Manager
9003503082
From India, Madras
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Dear Jayashree,
Without experiencing the worst situations, one cannot truly appreciate the best aspects of life. Therefore, always be willing to endure challenging times for the best outcomes.
By the way, let us also show respect for "Biscuits" by adding "JI" - remember "Parle JI."
Regards, Prafulla
From India, Pune
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Without experiencing the worst situations, one cannot truly appreciate the best aspects of life. Therefore, always be willing to endure challenging times for the best outcomes.
By the way, let us also show respect for "Biscuits" by adding "JI" - remember "Parle JI."
Regards, Prafulla
From India, Pune
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Hi, call him as he likes. There are some who don't get respect from him and want to be respected outside. Let's do that.
Actually, now in modern management, there is nothing like "sir" or "juniors" - it's by name or associate. Call him as he likes!
What I didn't like is the HR policy. The policy is common for everyone, be it senior management or workforce. Otherwise, the organization cannot be successful!
From India, Bangalore
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Actually, now in modern management, there is nothing like "sir" or "juniors" - it's by name or associate. Call him as he likes!
What I didn't like is the HR policy. The policy is common for everyone, be it senior management or workforce. Otherwise, the organization cannot be successful!
From India, Bangalore
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By this time you must have read all the nice and elaborate replies given by many members of this site.
Most basic and also important thought I would like to give you is that, maintain your morale.
If you go through any dictionary by meaning will make you more confused. There are are 3-Options for you to decide. Since you are a Senior HR in your Team YOU is the best judge.
1st- Suggestion
Prepare a Directive/Policy on Employees Standard Addressing Procedure in your organisation covering within / outside persons. [As you are working in Medical Firm, you must have addressed many as 'Doctor' (that is also a pseudonym)] and take necessary approvals.... this would make you to feel better psychologically and no problem by following implemented rules.
2nd- Suggestion
See since mid fourteenth century the world is using the word 'Sir', also there are many other synonym forms in all Indian languages. No doubt this word has taken its place in India when English speaking western countries entered India.
You also must know that there was no such history when persons were called by their given names like Mr.XYZ in one's working place than with equal portfolio; it was only used in US to address prominent persons who hold their office like Mr. President, Mr Governor Etc.
Even in Military services address a person 'Sir' is not to a person one but for the Rank one holds.
We generally call even an unknown person (may be an elderly looking one) as 'Sir', that only shows our politeness and humbleness. Though the referred person by you must have worked in parallel to you but had taken a higher position in the hierarchy, so at least that position must be address as 'Sir'.
I would like to say that all these addressing methods are only recognising every human as human with respect in this world social system. Organisations are part of our society.
Lastly, when a person has a granting power for some things also has the power to prohibit. So one must understand the classical system in formation of our system and there by addressing protocols.
3rd-Suggestion (not advisable)
Since you are not directly working under him (Accounts Dept) and can not force you to call him as 'Sir' personally and also legally - until unless it is recorded as a policy of addressing in your Organisation. But you may call him CFO-Sir. But beware he may wait for a chance to complain against you to higher management, in some situations be ready for a 'catch me if you can' game in the Office. I think this would make your place of work as tensed and keep a second career option ready.
Members expect your decision too… Best of Luck.
By this time you must have read all the nice and elaborate replies given by many members of this site.
Most basic and also important thought I would like to give you is that, maintain your morale.
If you go through any dictionary by meaning will make you more confused. There are are 3-Options for you to decide. Since you are a Senior HR in your Team YOU is the best judge.
1st- Suggestion
Prepare a Directive/Policy on Employees Standard Addressing Procedure in your organisation covering within / outside persons. [As you are working in Medical Firm, you must have addressed many as 'Doctor' (that is also a pseudonym)] and take necessary approvals.... this would make you to feel better psychologically and no problem by following implemented rules.
2nd- Suggestion
See since mid fourteenth century the world is using the word 'Sir', also there are many other synonym forms in all Indian languages. No doubt this word has taken its place in India when English speaking western countries entered India.
You also must know that there was no such history when persons were called by their given names like Mr.XYZ in one's working place than with equal portfolio; it was only used in US to address prominent persons who hold their office like Mr. President, Mr Governor Etc.
Even in Military services address a person 'Sir' is not to a person one but for the Rank one holds.
We generally call even an unknown person (may be an elderly looking one) as 'Sir', that only shows our politeness and humbleness. Though the referred person by you must have worked in parallel to you but had taken a higher position in the hierarchy, so at least that position must be address as 'Sir'.
I would like to say that all these addressing methods are only recognising every human as human with respect in this world social system. Organisations are part of our society.
Lastly, when a person has a granting power for some things also has the power to prohibit. So one must understand the classical system in formation of our system and there by addressing protocols.
3rd-Suggestion (not advisable)
Since you are not directly working under him (Accounts Dept) and can not force you to call him as 'Sir' personally and also legally - until unless it is recorded as a policy of addressing in your Organisation. But you may call him CFO-Sir. But beware he may wait for a chance to complain against you to higher management, in some situations be ready for a 'catch me if you can' game in the Office. I think this would make your place of work as tensed and keep a second career option ready.
Members expect your decision too… Best of Luck.
From India, Warangal
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Dear Jayashree,
With reference to your query, an old anecdote comes to mind. The National Defence Academy (NDA) was earlier called the Joint Services Wing (JSW). During those days, we still had some British Drill Instructors at the JSW. Today, we have instructors from the Indian Army, whom we call 'Sahab'. In those days, they were called 'Sir'. In return, the instructors use the same term of address for the cadets.
So, one Sergeant Major Ailing, while addressing a fresh course of cadets at the JSW drill square, in his opening remarks said: "Gentlemen, from today I will call you Sir, and you will call me Sir. The only difference is 'I DON'T MEAN IT'!"
Get the point? So go ahead and call him Sir, even if you don't like or respect him. But if you can like/respect him, it'll be easier on you.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
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With reference to your query, an old anecdote comes to mind. The National Defence Academy (NDA) was earlier called the Joint Services Wing (JSW). During those days, we still had some British Drill Instructors at the JSW. Today, we have instructors from the Indian Army, whom we call 'Sahab'. In those days, they were called 'Sir'. In return, the instructors use the same term of address for the cadets.
So, one Sergeant Major Ailing, while addressing a fresh course of cadets at the JSW drill square, in his opening remarks said: "Gentlemen, from today I will call you Sir, and you will call me Sir. The only difference is 'I DON'T MEAN IT'!"
Get the point? So go ahead and call him Sir, even if you don't like or respect him. But if you can like/respect him, it'll be easier on you.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
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Jayashree, beware of these people. Call him "sir" and satisfy his ego if you are aged; otherwise, be prepared to go through hell. You will find yourself again seeking help in this forum to secure a job. What is wrong with addressing anybody as "sir," whether senior or junior? "Sir" is simply the opposite of "madam." I have seen many people refer to an 18 or 19-year-old girl as "madam." Let me tell you, my wife addresses our driver as "sir." She calls everyone, including the newspaper vendor and milk supplier, "sir." I observe that everyone is pleased and respects her greatly. There is nothing wrong with this. If someone insists that you address them as "sir" due to their ego, and you refuse to do so, it seems like you have a bigger ego.
Please avoid excessive use of ellipses and maintain proper punctuation for clarity in your message.
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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I do not quite understand what on earth this brouhaha is all about. I will only second to Simhan. It all depends on the company culture. I work for an MNC where the director takes offense at being addressed as "Sir" (Mind you, he was a Colonel serving in the Indian Army in his previous life). So, do as they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." All the best.
From United States, San Francisco
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Hi,
As you have written, "We used to call him by his name because he is very arrogant and has lots of attitude. He doesn't know how to speak with female employees. He never informs us about his leave and compensatory off."
Considering the above points, regardless of his position, he must speak very politely with all female employees. One should be judged based on personal qualities rather than designation to earn genuine respect from others.
For example, Hitler was the Chancellor of Germany (high in designation) while Mahatma Gandhi never pursued the presidency (high in personal qualities).
Many Thanks,
Vasudev.
From India, Bangalore
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As you have written, "We used to call him by his name because he is very arrogant and has lots of attitude. He doesn't know how to speak with female employees. He never informs us about his leave and compensatory off."
Considering the above points, regardless of his position, he must speak very politely with all female employees. One should be judged based on personal qualities rather than designation to earn genuine respect from others.
For example, Hitler was the Chancellor of Germany (high in designation) while Mahatma Gandhi never pursued the presidency (high in personal qualities).
Many Thanks,
Vasudev.
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Readers,
Thank you for all the input.
"Respect all, irrespective of age and position; be a good human being to become better professionals."
At the end of the day, we are all human beings. Not all human beings are perfect; accept those who are imperfect. Respect them as well, even if it may sometimes seem inappropriate to you.
Calling someone Sir or Madam, in my opinion, automatically opens up the door of communication, regardless of the organization's culture. Opening the door of communication is of great importance.
Thank you,
Ranjeet Singh
From India, Jamshedpur
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Thank you for all the input.
"Respect all, irrespective of age and position; be a good human being to become better professionals."
At the end of the day, we are all human beings. Not all human beings are perfect; accept those who are imperfect. Respect them as well, even if it may sometimes seem inappropriate to you.
Calling someone Sir or Madam, in my opinion, automatically opens up the door of communication, regardless of the organization's culture. Opening the door of communication is of great importance.
Thank you,
Ranjeet Singh
From India, Jamshedpur
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