Recently I came across the job details for HR position in Timesjobs. Industry: Chemical industry Location: 19,Hari Kunj,Shrinagar Colony Road,MG Rd Cross,Goregaon W, Mumbai Poistion: Manager- HR, Admin, Legal Contact Person: D.Ganapathy Specialisation: Office Management & Coordination,Civil Law,Employment & Industrial Relations,Employee Relations,Performance Mgmt,Recruitment Job funtion: Administration,HR/PM/IR/Training,Legal/Law WE LOOK FOR A MATURED PERSON WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBILE TO RECRUIT RIGHT CANDIDATES AT RIGHT TIME AND AT RIGHT SALARY, LOOK AFTER ADMINISTRATION, HOUSE KEEPING, LIAISON WITH ADVOCATE RELATING TO CASES UNDER SECTION 138 AND NON-COMPLIANCE OF SEDRVICE AGREEMENTS. MUST BE GOOD AT DRAFTING. Why should a HR specialist meant for HR/Recruitment should get in to Admin duties of housekeeping, infra maintenance, assets, pantry etc. and also assist the advocate in vetting/ drafting, legal liaison and compliance? Does it not sound awkward? These mixed roles will ruin the candidate. This is like asking for 'Doctor cum Cook cum Sweeper cum Merchandiser'. Just imagine the role he does and finally he will end up buying toileteries and stationeries, without having scope for HR practices. His association will be only with house keeping boys, mopping girls, lift man, tea walla, security guards, and dusting legal case books and almirah. How many HR guys are competent enough and trained to vet and draft legal agreements without an LLB? It appears that anyone can advertise and do job posting as they like, citing recession as reason. Oopss...!! God alone can save candidates from these funny employers who pollute the work culture. Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
39From India, Madras
Thanks chandru for bringing this into our view. Really - some are very funny and they expect miracles out of a candidate. Glad they did not post that they want a person with "Super man" or "spider man powers" - u never know. Its recession. we can demand anything...
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Yes, Ash and Ravi. You are right. That shows how HR functions there and the way people are treated and respected. In the name of multi-tasking they vomit all non-sense in JD. Such JDs will definitley iriritate the candidates and there are no moderators at jobsite portals to monitor before a JD is posted by its clients. It's high time they follow such quality practices. Hahah..!! Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear Friends, Though it is awkard, but it is true. In today's time many organisation keeps only one person, he does entire HR & Admin. functions. Rarely HR & Admin. Dept. kept seperately. Time to time time they need to do Recruitment, Training, Appraisal and as well look for statutory compliance, security arrangements, housekeeping, canteen. Nowadays HR has become a multipurpose dept. Assign them any job which nobody does and they will deliver. That's true. Bibek
From India, Calcutta
From India, Calcutta
Hahah..!! HR department has become like a 'Joker' in a pack of cards. Whom to blame, the polluting employers or the desperate candidates..?? This itself would show the image and the standard of that company. Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear Chandru, Blame the employer. HR people hold the image of the company - and having a "Good HR department" - is a branding. But they have understated the value of the department and tries keeping people at admin level (who are good with what they can - common administration, but not HR activities). to manage HR activities. You see - they type what was exactly told to them.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
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From India, Kochi
From India, Kochi
Yes Chandru you are correct to your statement, but in order to save the cost of company the HR person is assigned the job of looking the work of Admin. One way its a part of saving but it has inverse effect on other side.
From India, Calicut
From India, Calicut
Dear Members I too agree with Mr. banerjee. He/She posted the requirement for Chemical Industry (Manufacturing). In a manufacturing industries, HR is sole responsible for HR & Admin work.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Its not about cost cutting or polluted JD .... I think in many company the Employer does not understand the difference between HRM, HRD & Administration. All is just considered the same ... thus all related things get merged and Real HR functions get diluted . The Victim HR Candidate gets on roll to work for daily routine Administartion job and dont even get time think about HR Resp. .. ... I feel the HR candidate has to be very sure about the JR he or she is going to handle in the dept. as well as educate the mgmt about the same . Regards Anju Prince
From India, Chandigarh
From India, Chandigarh
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