Dear All ... Can we have a discussion on Incident Investigation? Can anyone come up with a definition to this? What all points we must cover under Incident Investigation?
From India
713From India
Hello Dipil, Attached presentation that outlines a definition and aspects of the investigation process Regards
From Netherlands
From Netherlands
Really a very use full information containing in this PPT. It will help us a lot to investigate and analyze accident and we can also make a conclussion to prevent the same.
Thanking you again.
Arindam Ray
Asstt. Manager P&A
GTZ (India) Pvt. Ltd.
From India, Calcutta
Thanking you again.
Arindam Ray
Asstt. Manager P&A
GTZ (India) Pvt. Ltd.
From India, Calcutta
@ Ronald Mackenzie...
The presentation is very good... No doubt...
But I am little disagree with few points:
Your presentation says that we should include the names of the following itn the report:
1. Injured worker/s or worker/s involved name/s
2. Name of Supervisor and Department
But as far as my concern we can given names of the persons involved in the Incident in the prilimenary report of the same... No need of any personnel name in the deailed Incident Investigation Report... By giving names, this may divert the entire purpose of an investigation... By giving name all will blame directly one person... This must not be the purpose of an investigation...
Finding out the key factors which leads to an incident and elimnation of those to avoid recurrence must be the purpose of investigation... Blaming anyone must not be the purpose...
A lot thing missing in the presentation like, who must investigate, how to investigate, which tool to be used for investigation, etc... However overall the presentation gives a brief idea about investigation...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
The presentation is very good... No doubt...
But I am little disagree with few points:
Your presentation says that we should include the names of the following itn the report:
1. Injured worker/s or worker/s involved name/s
2. Name of Supervisor and Department
But as far as my concern we can given names of the persons involved in the Incident in the prilimenary report of the same... No need of any personnel name in the deailed Incident Investigation Report... By giving names, this may divert the entire purpose of an investigation... By giving name all will blame directly one person... This must not be the purpose of an investigation...
Finding out the key factors which leads to an incident and elimnation of those to avoid recurrence must be the purpose of investigation... Blaming anyone must not be the purpose...
A lot thing missing in the presentation like, who must investigate, how to investigate, which tool to be used for investigation, etc... However overall the presentation gives a brief idea about investigation...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
Dear All
The definition of Investigation is as follows:
An investigation is a methodical, systematic, unemotional undertaking to collect and interpret information about an event to establish the extend of an injury or loss, why it happened and to analyse the process involved to minimise the risk or prevent a recurrence. The investigation will normally result in the preparationn of a logical, sequential report of the events with recommended preventive strategies.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
The definition of Investigation is as follows:
An investigation is a methodical, systematic, unemotional undertaking to collect and interpret information about an event to establish the extend of an injury or loss, why it happened and to analyse the process involved to minimise the risk or prevent a recurrence. The investigation will normally result in the preparationn of a logical, sequential report of the events with recommended preventive strategies.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
Re Incident Investigation
Dear All,
It was an informative ppt on Incident Investigation.
I do conduct Accident/Investigation management training in Malaysia. The key point is the analysis of the findings to determine the root cause (normally a failure in management systems) & come up with solutions on preventing their recurrence as well to ensure weaknessess in the system has been rectified so that similar or other incidents do not recur.
I am attaching a ppt on what I use for my training. Hope it helps.
From Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
Dear All,
It was an informative ppt on Incident Investigation.
I do conduct Accident/Investigation management training in Malaysia. The key point is the analysis of the findings to determine the root cause (normally a failure in management systems) & come up with solutions on preventing their recurrence as well to ensure weaknessess in the system has been rectified so that similar or other incidents do not recur.
I am attaching a ppt on what I use for my training. Hope it helps.
From Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
Dear all.
Very very rarely one finds such a beautiful presentation and the very relevant discussion with excellent ppt. My all out compliments to one and all for bringing an interesting topic to the forum.
I wish to share one dimension in the subject of Incident of investigation. As a Industrial Security Consultant in the field since 10 years very often we come across incidents arising out of the theft, pilferage, missing of movable assets and information , attempts on these issues. This is a part of HR management.
We conduct a detailed investigation on each and every issue ranging from one day to one month depending on the nature of incident irrespective of the outcome of the investigation. The process is a detailed one involving the study of the people, profile and system of the organization connected to the incident. This is an exercise that serves organization an eye opener in reducing the risk in protecting the human capital and avoids potential security threat causing the damage in the form of loss to property or misappropriation of funds.
If there is an interest in this platform I can share inputs.
Thanks.
V. Rangarajan.
From India, Pune
Very very rarely one finds such a beautiful presentation and the very relevant discussion with excellent ppt. My all out compliments to one and all for bringing an interesting topic to the forum.
I wish to share one dimension in the subject of Incident of investigation. As a Industrial Security Consultant in the field since 10 years very often we come across incidents arising out of the theft, pilferage, missing of movable assets and information , attempts on these issues. This is a part of HR management.
We conduct a detailed investigation on each and every issue ranging from one day to one month depending on the nature of incident irrespective of the outcome of the investigation. The process is a detailed one involving the study of the people, profile and system of the organization connected to the incident. This is an exercise that serves organization an eye opener in reducing the risk in protecting the human capital and avoids potential security threat causing the damage in the form of loss to property or misappropriation of funds.
If there is an interest in this platform I can share inputs.
Thanks.
V. Rangarajan.
From India, Pune
Dear All
Thanks for the active participation in the discussion... Let us now select specific subject under Incident Investigation... Will chaneg the same, and will go into deeper as and when time allows and if all are interested...
As per your opinion which is the best proven tool for Incident Investigation?
@ Gopinadhan Pillai...
The presentation is very good... Nice one... Knowledgable one... Thanks for sharing...
@ V. Rangarajan...
We are here only because of the interest in discussion and thierby knowledge gaining... So request you to come up with your views and good postings....
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
Thanks for the active participation in the discussion... Let us now select specific subject under Incident Investigation... Will chaneg the same, and will go into deeper as and when time allows and if all are interested...
As per your opinion which is the best proven tool for Incident Investigation?
@ Gopinadhan Pillai...
The presentation is very good... Nice one... Knowledgable one... Thanks for sharing...
@ V. Rangarajan...
We are here only because of the interest in discussion and thierby knowledge gaining... So request you to come up with your views and good postings....
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
Dear Friends,
ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION …
CHARLIE’S ACCIDENT
Charlie had an emotional argument with his wife and proceeds to the local bar where he consumes several drinks. He departs the bar in his car at high speed. Minutes later, he loses control on the highway and is fatally injured. We know what happened; we must now determine ‘WHY’ it happened.
The investigation team is comprised of six specialists, each of whom has completely different perspective on the root safety deficiency.
1. Sociologist
2. Enforcement Officer from Liquor Control Board.
3. Pathologist.
4. High way Engineer
5. Automobile Engineer
6. Policeman.
The sociologist identifies a breakdown in interpersonal communication within the marriage. An enforcement officer from the Liquor Control Board notes the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages by the bar on a “two for one” basis. The pathologist determines that Charlie’s blood alcohol was in excess of legal limit. The highway engineer finds inadequate road banking and protective barriers for the posted speed. An automotive engineer determines that Charlie’s car had a loose front end and bald tires; the policeman determines that the automobile was traveling at excessive speed for the prevailing conditions.
Each of the deficiencies may result in a different definition of the underlying hazard.
Your final report with recommendtion to avoid recurrence please….
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION …
CHARLIE’S ACCIDENT
Charlie had an emotional argument with his wife and proceeds to the local bar where he consumes several drinks. He departs the bar in his car at high speed. Minutes later, he loses control on the highway and is fatally injured. We know what happened; we must now determine ‘WHY’ it happened.
The investigation team is comprised of six specialists, each of whom has completely different perspective on the root safety deficiency.
1. Sociologist
2. Enforcement Officer from Liquor Control Board.
3. Pathologist.
4. High way Engineer
5. Automobile Engineer
6. Policeman.
The sociologist identifies a breakdown in interpersonal communication within the marriage. An enforcement officer from the Liquor Control Board notes the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages by the bar on a “two for one” basis. The pathologist determines that Charlie’s blood alcohol was in excess of legal limit. The highway engineer finds inadequate road banking and protective barriers for the posted speed. An automotive engineer determines that Charlie’s car had a loose front end and bald tires; the policeman determines that the automobile was traveling at excessive speed for the prevailing conditions.
Each of the deficiencies may result in a different definition of the underlying hazard.
Your final report with recommendtion to avoid recurrence please….
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
Dear All
Among the team selected for investigation any incident one should atleast have the knowledge of Root Cause Failure Analysis.
Recommendation should contain corrective as well as preventive actions... Further to this communication of the investigation findings with these recommendation is one of the major part of the investigation process... Last but most important of the process is follow up...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
Among the team selected for investigation any incident one should atleast have the knowledge of Root Cause Failure Analysis.
Recommendation should contain corrective as well as preventive actions... Further to this communication of the investigation findings with these recommendation is one of the major part of the investigation process... Last but most important of the process is follow up...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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