Dear All,
As all of you know, in our country, even though safety legislations are in place, plenty of workplace accidents are occurring. Even the government can't provide authentic data on the number of these accidents happening across the country. In this situation, what should be done about the compensation of these injured workers? It's truly a pathetic condition.
Many NGOs across the country are working to uplift such poorer people. One leading NGO is the People Training Research Center based in Gujarat. The core member of PTRC, Mr. Jagdish Prasad, is an active member in CiteHR. With his idea in the thread linked below and the motivation of Mr. Raghu, I am starting this new thread:
https://www.citehr.com/437051-injury...-kitchens.html
I now request Mr. Jagdish Patel to come forward and show the path for this cause. If the members of CiteHR are interested in organizing for this noble cause, how can we contribute to the upliftment of those poor employees/victims of occupational health and workplace accidents?
I believe that if we are able to meet, it will surely benefit each of us personally and professionally. We can plan to meet at a common place in each state for discussions and to create an action plan to progress further with these noble thoughts.
Looking forward to hearing the views, suggestions, and comments of other members.
From India
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730As all of you know, in our country, even though safety legislations are in place, plenty of workplace accidents are occurring. Even the government can't provide authentic data on the number of these accidents happening across the country. In this situation, what should be done about the compensation of these injured workers? It's truly a pathetic condition.
Many NGOs across the country are working to uplift such poorer people. One leading NGO is the People Training Research Center based in Gujarat. The core member of PTRC, Mr. Jagdish Prasad, is an active member in CiteHR. With his idea in the thread linked below and the motivation of Mr. Raghu, I am starting this new thread:
https://www.citehr.com/437051-injury...-kitchens.html
I now request Mr. Jagdish Patel to come forward and show the path for this cause. If the members of CiteHR are interested in organizing for this noble cause, how can we contribute to the upliftment of those poor employees/victims of occupational health and workplace accidents?
I believe that if we are able to meet, it will surely benefit each of us personally and professionally. We can plan to meet at a common place in each state for discussions and to create an action plan to progress further with these noble thoughts.
Looking forward to hearing the views, suggestions, and comments of other members.
From India
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Dear Dipil,
Thanks for starting a thread. We have to decide on a location to meet. I think Mumbai would be convenient for members from Maharashtra, Gujarat, and Rajasthan. However, if any other location is finalized, it should be okay with me.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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Thanks for starting a thread. We have to decide on a location to meet. I think Mumbai would be convenient for members from Maharashtra, Gujarat, and Rajasthan. However, if any other location is finalized, it should be okay with me.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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Comments Posted by PTRC in another thread:
I am so glad that after Ramesh Bahrdwaj's post and subsequent responses, Raghu inspired Dipil to initiate a new thread. Dipil immediately acted upon it and introduced the thread. We are all concerned about the working people in hotels and restaurants in this thread.
Safety and health of workers can be ensured by:
1. Workers themselves to some extent and has a lot of limitations. They can be trained and made aware of what needs to be done through pamphlets, etc. (formal and informal methods and routes).
2. Owners who have a major responsibility. They may also be approached by civil society groups offering them technical help as they may need.
3. Government also has a responsibility by drafting policy, collecting data, publishing and analyzing them for further refinement on policy or laws, enacting laws, enforcing them, prosecuting violators, and creating a conducive social environment.
We have no law at the moment giving legal protection to the hotel and restaurant workers' safety and health at work. Even without a law, workers can be protected, but if a law is there, it becomes mandatory and makes a great difference.
For any campaign, we would need some good case studies to start with, and I invite one and all to share their experiences.
From India
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I am so glad that after Ramesh Bahrdwaj's post and subsequent responses, Raghu inspired Dipil to initiate a new thread. Dipil immediately acted upon it and introduced the thread. We are all concerned about the working people in hotels and restaurants in this thread.
Safety and health of workers can be ensured by:
1. Workers themselves to some extent and has a lot of limitations. They can be trained and made aware of what needs to be done through pamphlets, etc. (formal and informal methods and routes).
2. Owners who have a major responsibility. They may also be approached by civil society groups offering them technical help as they may need.
3. Government also has a responsibility by drafting policy, collecting data, publishing and analyzing them for further refinement on policy or laws, enacting laws, enforcing them, prosecuting violators, and creating a conducive social environment.
We have no law at the moment giving legal protection to the hotel and restaurant workers' safety and health at work. Even without a law, workers can be protected, but if a law is there, it becomes mandatory and makes a great difference.
For any campaign, we would need some good case studies to start with, and I invite one and all to share their experiences.
From India
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Dear Sir,
I agree with your comments. Mumbai can be one location. I hope a lot of members in CiteHR can also gather in such a location.
I would also like to give preference to Delhi. However, it's just a suggestion. Let's see who all are coming forward.
From India
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I agree with your comments. Mumbai can be one location. I hope a lot of members in CiteHR can also gather in such a location.
I would also like to give preference to Delhi. However, it's just a suggestion. Let's see who all are coming forward.
From India
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Very encouraging emails. I am of the opinion that let us start with small area meetings, maybe. Can we know the number of our members in different cities and states? Let us also wait for other members to respond and express their views on the idea, and then we can plan future moves.
From India, Coimbatore
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Team,
Sure, I'll be a part of our team for this noble cause. I have no issue about the meeting spot. I have a few questions that I hope will help us implement the program:
- How will we start our project?
- How will we implement our program in the future?
- How do we connect with people who are unable to attend the meetings but are willing to join our team?
- How do we invite people other than the citehr family?
- We need to find a suitable name for our program.
- How do we share our case studies through our program with others?
- One more important thing: How do we shed light on our program to generate interest in others joining our team?
I have a few more questions. Seniors, please feel free to come forward and help us create the right path.
@Dipil,
Thanks for opening a new thread and getting involved in this topic.
Dear PTRC/Sudhir sir,
Appreciate your interest.
Keep on rocking.
From United States, Fpo
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Sure, I'll be a part of our team for this noble cause. I have no issue about the meeting spot. I have a few questions that I hope will help us implement the program:
- How will we start our project?
- How will we implement our program in the future?
- How do we connect with people who are unable to attend the meetings but are willing to join our team?
- How do we invite people other than the citehr family?
- We need to find a suitable name for our program.
- How do we share our case studies through our program with others?
- One more important thing: How do we shed light on our program to generate interest in others joining our team?
I have a few more questions. Seniors, please feel free to come forward and help us create the right path.
@Dipil,
Thanks for opening a new thread and getting involved in this topic.
Dear PTRC/Sudhir sir,
Appreciate your interest.
Keep on rocking.
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Raghu,
I think all these questions can be answered when we are able to meet at a location and discuss the things... Just my thought. I believe there are some good NGOs working based in Delhi as well. We may take their help or collaborate with them in some way. PTRC can provide more insights into this particular aspect. However, the main concern is how many CiteHR members are coming forward. Let's see. So far, only regular and guaranteed responders have come forward.
From India
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I think all these questions can be answered when we are able to meet at a location and discuss the things... Just my thought. I believe there are some good NGOs working based in Delhi as well. We may take their help or collaborate with them in some way. PTRC can provide more insights into this particular aspect. However, the main concern is how many CiteHR members are coming forward. Let's see. So far, only regular and guaranteed responders have come forward.
From India
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Dear all, I usually miss such threads where I have no expertise. However, at Raghuvaran's request, I read the contents with interest. I also accessed the web, as my wont, and read a good article at http://worksafebc.com <link fixed>
In another dissertation at http://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/c...0prevention%22
I found the following advice and wonder how many establishments really collect such data!!
"...hotels collect data regarding workplace injuries in order to identify activities that may
only result in a moderately severe injury, but have a high probability of occurring. The
information collected for each injury should at a minimum include:
• the date and time of the injury;
• the name of the injured employee;
• the location of the injury;
• the activity being performed by the employee at the time of the injury;
• the type of injury sustained (body part and diagnosis);
• and the direct cost incurred by the hotel as a result of the injury.
I am based in the UK and can part in discussions at CiteHR but not able to attend any meetings, as I cannot afford travel expenses to come just for that.
Wish the group all the best.
From United Kingdom
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In another dissertation at http://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/c...0prevention%22
I found the following advice and wonder how many establishments really collect such data!!
"...hotels collect data regarding workplace injuries in order to identify activities that may
only result in a moderately severe injury, but have a high probability of occurring. The
information collected for each injury should at a minimum include:
• the date and time of the injury;
• the name of the injured employee;
• the location of the injury;
• the activity being performed by the employee at the time of the injury;
• the type of injury sustained (body part and diagnosis);
• and the direct cost incurred by the hotel as a result of the injury.
I am based in the UK and can part in discussions at CiteHR but not able to attend any meetings, as I cannot afford travel expenses to come just for that.
Wish the group all the best.
From United Kingdom
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Thank you, Raghu, for the invitation. The idea seems to be good, but there are tasks ahead in bringing together like-minded friends to a common point. As you know, the members are spread across the globe, and many may not have the time slot to attend such meetings due to their busy job schedules and associated cost parameters. All the best.
Pon
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Thank you, Raghu, for setting the agenda of the meeting. Dipil is right in saying that at the meeting, these and other issues may be discussed. For a successful intervention, emotions alone would not work. We need to know how many are active and how many of them may be interested in such a meeting. The rest can be decided later.
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Dear PTRC,
You're right, sir. "For successful intervention, emotions alone wouldn't work." We will see how many of them we will get in our team; we will wait for some reasonable time, and then we'll move forward with the members we have in our team.
"Little drops of water make the mighty ocean." We will begin with our team, this noble cause, by contributing our first drop.
Note: In a couple of days, I will confirm my arrival. I should attend our first meeting with our team.
From United States, Fpo
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You're right, sir. "For successful intervention, emotions alone wouldn't work." We will see how many of them we will get in our team; we will wait for some reasonable time, and then we'll move forward with the members we have in our team.
"Little drops of water make the mighty ocean." We will begin with our team, this noble cause, by contributing our first drop.
Note: In a couple of days, I will confirm my arrival. I should attend our first meeting with our team.
From United States, Fpo
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Dear PTRC,
You're right, sir. "For successful intervention, emotions alone wouldn't work." We will see how many of them we will get in our team and will wait for some reasonable time. Then we'll move forward with the members we have in our team.
"Little drops of water make the mighty ocean." We'll begin with our team in this noble cause by contributing our first drop.
Note: In a couple of days, I'll confirm my arrival. I should attend our first meeting with our team.
Thank you.
From United States, Fpo
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You're right, sir. "For successful intervention, emotions alone wouldn't work." We will see how many of them we will get in our team and will wait for some reasonable time. Then we'll move forward with the members we have in our team.
"Little drops of water make the mighty ocean." We'll begin with our team in this noble cause by contributing our first drop.
Note: In a couple of days, I'll confirm my arrival. I should attend our first meeting with our team.
Thank you.
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Friends,
First of all, let me thank Mr. Dipil for initiating the thread and Mr. Raghu for encouraging everyone to get involved in this discussion.
In India, there are many Acts/Rules available for regulating every activity. However, the problem lies in implementing the same in the concerned area. Normally, in the restaurant and kitchen area, the accidents are of the burn type injuries only. The hotel industry must have a tie-up with a nearby hospital where burn injuries are treated to safeguard the life of the victim.
While discussing with the Factories Inspector in Surat, he informed that 75% of accident victims are newly employed and engaged in work within a period of 2 months due to ignorance of safety norms. Accidents happening after 2 months of services are due to gross negligence of safety norms.
I also will join my hands (even though I am not a safety professional) for this noble cause at Chennai Group.
From India, Kumbakonam
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First of all, let me thank Mr. Dipil for initiating the thread and Mr. Raghu for encouraging everyone to get involved in this discussion.
In India, there are many Acts/Rules available for regulating every activity. However, the problem lies in implementing the same in the concerned area. Normally, in the restaurant and kitchen area, the accidents are of the burn type injuries only. The hotel industry must have a tie-up with a nearby hospital where burn injuries are treated to safeguard the life of the victim.
While discussing with the Factories Inspector in Surat, he informed that 75% of accident victims are newly employed and engaged in work within a period of 2 months due to ignorance of safety norms. Accidents happening after 2 months of services are due to gross negligence of safety norms.
I also will join my hands (even though I am not a safety professional) for this noble cause at Chennai Group.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Hi,
When a safety practitioner becomes aware that an employee, contractor, volunteer or even a visitor sustains a serious injury or dies (for whom your employer is responsible) be mindful that if you conduct an investigation your report (and any findings or recommendations etc) may not be subject to professional legal privilege in a subsequent court hearing.
I suggest immediately contacting your employer's insurer who may be able to arrange an investigator to conduct a thorough investigation. They can release their report to the employer’s lawyer, which may include findings, recommendations fault/s, etc etc. You are therefore protected while your actions are professionally managed
You can therefore manage and drive safety improvements to prevent further lost time injuries
Regards, Ron
From Netherlands
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When a safety practitioner becomes aware that an employee, contractor, volunteer or even a visitor sustains a serious injury or dies (for whom your employer is responsible) be mindful that if you conduct an investigation your report (and any findings or recommendations etc) may not be subject to professional legal privilege in a subsequent court hearing.
I suggest immediately contacting your employer's insurer who may be able to arrange an investigator to conduct a thorough investigation. They can release their report to the employer’s lawyer, which may include findings, recommendations fault/s, etc etc. You are therefore protected while your actions are professionally managed
You can therefore manage and drive safety improvements to prevent further lost time injuries
Regards, Ron
From Netherlands
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Quote of Factory Inspector at Surat is interesting. They have all the data collected and they can analyze and publish their findings. But they do not do that and just fly such statements. I do not buy this as it has no basis.
I collect newspaper clippings all round the year from the newspaper I buy - Guj daily Divya Bhaskar and Indian Express. A volunteer from Surat regularly collects clippings from the dailies published from Surat and sends them to me. I collate them and prepare a write-up for my Guj bimonthly magazine.
Right now I am in the process of analyzing data for the last 5 years. I have been collecting clippings since 1989. My overall impression of fatal accidents in Gujarat, particularly Surat, is that the majority of those who died are young migrant workers and a minority. There is a lot of work waiting for those who are genuinely interested in reducing pains.
From India, Coimbatore
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I collect newspaper clippings all round the year from the newspaper I buy - Guj daily Divya Bhaskar and Indian Express. A volunteer from Surat regularly collects clippings from the dailies published from Surat and sends them to me. I collate them and prepare a write-up for my Guj bimonthly magazine.
Right now I am in the process of analyzing data for the last 5 years. I have been collecting clippings since 1989. My overall impression of fatal accidents in Gujarat, particularly Surat, is that the majority of those who died are young migrant workers and a minority. There is a lot of work waiting for those who are genuinely interested in reducing pains.
From India, Coimbatore
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