My doubt is whether one should feed in the e-Return Tool, the actual date of joining of the employee (in the organisation) or whether it is the date coverage of the establishment into EPF. For eg: Suppose an organisation ABC started operations since 3 years ie.. 01-01-2010 and reached 20 no: of employees on say 20 October 2013, then the applicable date of coverage by EPF is 20/10/2013.
My Doubts are:
1) Suppose Mr. XYZ is an employee of the organisation from its date of inception.. i.e 01-01-2010, then while feeding data into the Employee Master of the EPF software "e-Return Tool", what should be mentioned in the "date of joining" field of the employee Mr. XYZ... whether it is 01-01-2010 or 01-10-2013 or if it is 20-10-2013.
2) What should be the PF contribution to be deducted for the month of Oct 2013 in respect of Mr. XYZ??? Whether it is whole months (Oct 2013) contribution or just the contribution for 12 days of his wages ..i.e from the date of coverage of EPF?
Thanks in advance for any help to receive
Regards
Sujith
From India, Cochin
1My Doubts are:
1) Suppose Mr. XYZ is an employee of the organisation from its date of inception.. i.e 01-01-2010, then while feeding data into the Employee Master of the EPF software "e-Return Tool", what should be mentioned in the "date of joining" field of the employee Mr. XYZ... whether it is 01-01-2010 or 01-10-2013 or if it is 20-10-2013.
2) What should be the PF contribution to be deducted for the month of Oct 2013 in respect of Mr. XYZ??? Whether it is whole months (Oct 2013) contribution or just the contribution for 12 days of his wages ..i.e from the date of coverage of EPF?
Thanks in advance for any help to receive
Regards
Sujith
From India, Cochin
So far I have not received any suggestions/comments. Dear readers, I am awaiting your response. This question was asked to me by a friend of mine and I tried contacting the EPFO office. They said to contact the enforcement officer of the region. When I tried to contact the EO, I was informed that he/she is on away for one week due to some official programme.
From India, Cochin
From India, Cochin
You need to and meet the PRO at the local pf office. He will be able to help you resolve this issue. From what I remember of the manual forms, doj is actual doj and not the date of applicability. However, it may have changed in the electronic forms.
Incidentally check the FAQ on the website. It may be covered as others would have had the same query
From India, Mumbai
Incidentally check the FAQ on the website. It may be covered as others would have had the same query
From India, Mumbai
The answer is Q 1.DOJ is 1.1.2010 Q2.Contribution for 12 days ie.date of coverage. Varghese Mathew 9961266966
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
If you key in the date of joining different from the month of ECR file, the system does not accept. It accepts only the current month's date i,.e month of ecr file. Further, the PF contribution is calculated for the month and not for days. What is the monthly salary and deduct 12% from that amount and not day based calculation.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Does it means that a person joining on 20th oct has to contribute for the full month ? No. Varghese Mathew
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
No., the month means the wages/salary earned/paid during the month for the number of days worked.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
I think coverage does not start from the day the 20th employee joins. Instead it starts from the beginning of the month when the employee joins.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sujith,
In the E-Return Software, you should mention the actual Date of Joining of such employee because as per law, his / her DoJ will be the actual one.
As per your example, if the organization got coverage under EPF w.e.f. 20-10-2013, in this case, only 12 days contribution will be submitted of each employee, who will be in employment of the organization before 20-10-2013.
But, plz. note that, when any such member will withdraw his / her EPF Fund, at time you will need to mentioned Date of Joining & Date of Coverage separately, in Form 10C & 19.
Hope this will help you. Cheers.
From India, Delhi
In the E-Return Software, you should mention the actual Date of Joining of such employee because as per law, his / her DoJ will be the actual one.
As per your example, if the organization got coverage under EPF w.e.f. 20-10-2013, in this case, only 12 days contribution will be submitted of each employee, who will be in employment of the organization before 20-10-2013.
But, plz. note that, when any such member will withdraw his / her EPF Fund, at time you will need to mentioned Date of Joining & Date of Coverage separately, in Form 10C & 19.
Hope this will help you. Cheers.
From India, Delhi
Dear Mr. Sujith,
Greetings!
As far as my professional knowledge goes,
1) The date of joining for Mr.XYZ is 20/10/13. The reason being the 'Date of Joining' in the E-Return Tool is the 'Date of Joining the EPF' . As the establishment is registered from 20/10/13, the date of joining cannot be a date before the date of registration of the establishment.
2) The contribution amount is payable for 12 days only. Continuing with the above logic, the contribution is payable only from the period the employee is covered under the EPFO. As the account is opened from 20/10/13, the contribution will be for the period following the date of joining.
The above inference is drawn on the basis of my professional experience with the enforcement officers in similar cases of my client. Hope that helps.
From India, Pune
Greetings!
As far as my professional knowledge goes,
1) The date of joining for Mr.XYZ is 20/10/13. The reason being the 'Date of Joining' in the E-Return Tool is the 'Date of Joining the EPF' . As the establishment is registered from 20/10/13, the date of joining cannot be a date before the date of registration of the establishment.
2) The contribution amount is payable for 12 days only. Continuing with the above logic, the contribution is payable only from the period the employee is covered under the EPFO. As the account is opened from 20/10/13, the contribution will be for the period following the date of joining.
The above inference is drawn on the basis of my professional experience with the enforcement officers in similar cases of my client. Hope that helps.
From India, Pune
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