Hi Priya
According to me Title and Organizational size stands second
First of all make sure about your responsibility. If you feel that u are going to learn some new concept / Procedures over there in that new organization.
Before joining collect info about the org. structure (To whom u are going to report and who is your one above manager) and this will help us to take a decision
Every company have own policies and procedure (For Eg. Recruitment process in your company may not be same in my company)
So make a comparative study about the positive and negative sides in both the organizations
Then you take your own decesion
BR
Pratheep
9894276231
According to me Title and Organizational size stands second
First of all make sure about your responsibility. If you feel that u are going to learn some new concept / Procedures over there in that new organization.
Before joining collect info about the org. structure (To whom u are going to report and who is your one above manager) and this will help us to take a decision
Every company have own policies and procedure (For Eg. Recruitment process in your company may not be same in my company)
So make a comparative study about the positive and negative sides in both the organizations
Then you take your own decesion
BR
Pratheep
9894276231
Dear Priya,
Looks like you will take the Manager's job and Aarti Lokare is keen to replace you in your current organisation!
Win-Win for all - yourself, Aarti, your current company and your next company as well!
ALL THE BEST, PRIYA and AARTI!!!
From India, Mumbai
Looks like you will take the Manager's job and Aarti Lokare is keen to replace you in your current organisation!
Win-Win for all - yourself, Aarti, your current company and your next company as well!
ALL THE BEST, PRIYA and AARTI!!!
From India, Mumbai
Hi
I want to tell you that your views are quite unsatisfieng for me bcoz insmall organisation u can learn more things compare to big organisation. in big org. you can get a perticular field to work bcoz in big org. there are no. of employee and handling them is a tidious job. so in big org. management want to appoint a perticular persona for specific job so i mean to say u will nt get lot many responsbility to enjoy. But in small org. management want to appoint limited people for lot many work. so your exposer is for work is good in small one org.
And after learning lot many things you can fir yourself in anywhere whether it is amall or big and mind one thing position is nt a big matter. only money and responsbility is a matter.
This is my view that's all.
Regards
Suman Parashar
Asst.H.R Manager
From India, Gurgaon
4I want to tell you that your views are quite unsatisfieng for me bcoz insmall organisation u can learn more things compare to big organisation. in big org. you can get a perticular field to work bcoz in big org. there are no. of employee and handling them is a tidious job. so in big org. management want to appoint a perticular persona for specific job so i mean to say u will nt get lot many responsbility to enjoy. But in small org. management want to appoint limited people for lot many work. so your exposer is for work is good in small one org.
And after learning lot many things you can fir yourself in anywhere whether it is amall or big and mind one thing position is nt a big matter. only money and responsbility is a matter.
This is my view that's all.
Regards
Suman Parashar
Asst.H.R Manager
From India, Gurgaon
Dear Priya,
As suggested by our friends my advise for you also would be to go ahead with your current company. Yu can infact take out a leaf out of my book; I hve been working with one of the top 3 mnc's in India since past 2 yrs, but have'nt had a chance to learn new things other than recruitments. Its only bcoz of the recession & freeze in the recruitment numbers that i got to work in L&D dept for some time now. There would not be much scope to learn newer things in bigger companies as the process would be shared among the team members usually. I had been in your situation earlier and still ruin the fact that i missed a very good offer from a mid-level company, a year ago, to get into a kind of profile where i need to take care of both recruitments and deployment as well, which would have easily given me an opportunity to go a step ahead than wher i am currently now. Please think & take a wise decision for urself.
Cheers
Kalyan
From India, Hyderabad
As suggested by our friends my advise for you also would be to go ahead with your current company. Yu can infact take out a leaf out of my book; I hve been working with one of the top 3 mnc's in India since past 2 yrs, but have'nt had a chance to learn new things other than recruitments. Its only bcoz of the recession & freeze in the recruitment numbers that i got to work in L&D dept for some time now. There would not be much scope to learn newer things in bigger companies as the process would be shared among the team members usually. I had been in your situation earlier and still ruin the fact that i missed a very good offer from a mid-level company, a year ago, to get into a kind of profile where i need to take care of both recruitments and deployment as well, which would have easily given me an opportunity to go a step ahead than wher i am currently now. Please think & take a wise decision for urself.
Cheers
Kalyan
From India, Hyderabad
Desi HR? Took me a while to realize that the desi was shortcut used for designation :-). Typically, outside India, we call ourselves (the folks with the ethnic background of the Indian Subcontinent, including India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc.J) desi (someone from the desh/country).
The responses here are ranging between two opposites. Thought I would throw in my $0.02 as well.
I worked with a Director of a large company who, in his previous job, was a VP of a relatively smaller (but still a big) company. Keep in mind, a Director reports to a VP (not to be confused with the Director in a company’s Board of Directors). This guy essentially moved to a lower position in his next job than he was in a previous job.
Here is the reasoning. I agree with the view that your job title does not matter nearly as much as your job responsibilities. The responsibilities of this VP in the “smaller” company were the kind of responsibilities carried out by a group Director in the “larger” company. It was not technically a “demotion” for him, but a lateral (and strategic) move with a great potential to quickly grow.
From what you mentioned yourself, you are not getting enough exposure in your current job as you would like. Although you would be (technically) going into a lower position in a larger company, you also mentioned it would be an excellent experience for future growth.
If you accept the promotion and stay in your current job, you would soon be tied to your current job with a little scope to grow or move out to a different company. If your exposure in your current job as a HR manager is so much as that of an HR Executive in a larger company, the question you must ask yourself is, "Do I want to accept the HR Executive position today, learn more and grow into senior position with solid experience in next three years? Or, do I want to start this growing/gaining solid experience three years from now, while I stay in HR Manager Position in the current company for next three years?"
The bottom line is, whatever position you move to next, if you do not have the experience and cannot show the ability to deliver for the next job, you won't get that job. My current job title of HR Manager is not a ticket for my next job title of HR Manager or Sr. HR Manager.
So, if I were you, this is what I would do. I would evaluate myself and see where I am today (from knowledge, exposure, experience point and not strictly from the job title standpoint). I would evaluate my current job and growth prospects (in terms of my growth as a professional, and not necessarily the job title). I would apply the same kind of evaluation to the job offer I have in hand as well. If the job offer I have in hand helps me grow as a professional, I would take it regardless of what the job title says.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
-Som G
From United States, Woodinville
The responses here are ranging between two opposites. Thought I would throw in my $0.02 as well.
I worked with a Director of a large company who, in his previous job, was a VP of a relatively smaller (but still a big) company. Keep in mind, a Director reports to a VP (not to be confused with the Director in a company’s Board of Directors). This guy essentially moved to a lower position in his next job than he was in a previous job.
Here is the reasoning. I agree with the view that your job title does not matter nearly as much as your job responsibilities. The responsibilities of this VP in the “smaller” company were the kind of responsibilities carried out by a group Director in the “larger” company. It was not technically a “demotion” for him, but a lateral (and strategic) move with a great potential to quickly grow.
From what you mentioned yourself, you are not getting enough exposure in your current job as you would like. Although you would be (technically) going into a lower position in a larger company, you also mentioned it would be an excellent experience for future growth.
If you accept the promotion and stay in your current job, you would soon be tied to your current job with a little scope to grow or move out to a different company. If your exposure in your current job as a HR manager is so much as that of an HR Executive in a larger company, the question you must ask yourself is, "Do I want to accept the HR Executive position today, learn more and grow into senior position with solid experience in next three years? Or, do I want to start this growing/gaining solid experience three years from now, while I stay in HR Manager Position in the current company for next three years?"
The bottom line is, whatever position you move to next, if you do not have the experience and cannot show the ability to deliver for the next job, you won't get that job. My current job title of HR Manager is not a ticket for my next job title of HR Manager or Sr. HR Manager.
So, if I were you, this is what I would do. I would evaluate myself and see where I am today (from knowledge, exposure, experience point and not strictly from the job title standpoint). I would evaluate my current job and growth prospects (in terms of my growth as a professional, and not necessarily the job title). I would apply the same kind of evaluation to the job offer I have in hand as well. If the job offer I have in hand helps me grow as a professional, I would take it regardless of what the job title says.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
-Som G
From United States, Woodinville
Hi Priya,
I think position doesn't matter in small companies, they will give you as manager but the salary pay would not be as per manager cadre, they will give you as per Executive or Sr.Executive cadre because the budget criteria are different than the big company. wherein if you join big company designation would be executive but the salary pay would be at par with the Sr. manager in small company.
also, if i talk about the work exposure - you can learn many thing in small company but very limited work is assigned in big company that is the difference.
so overall money and learning matters, don't look in small or big company until certain age.
Regards,
Hardik Mehta
HR-Reliaice
From India, Ballia
I think position doesn't matter in small companies, they will give you as manager but the salary pay would not be as per manager cadre, they will give you as per Executive or Sr.Executive cadre because the budget criteria are different than the big company. wherein if you join big company designation would be executive but the salary pay would be at par with the Sr. manager in small company.
also, if i talk about the work exposure - you can learn many thing in small company but very limited work is assigned in big company that is the difference.
so overall money and learning matters, don't look in small or big company until certain age.
Regards,
Hardik Mehta
HR-Reliaice
From India, Ballia
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