Hi, I guess the best way is to give her notice. That's it. This will teach others a lesson on how to behave. Just chill, I know HR should be friendly, but they should also show authority and demand respect. She is going overboard.
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I too had the same experience in my old firm. That person was playing a key role at that time in one important project. She used to come late to the office. But we felt punctuality is more important. I spoke to her two times about late comings but no result. Finally, I got a good replacement for her.
I feel that punctuality is an internal feeling that every employee should have. If a person is not feeling that, it does not mean that they are not interested in the job they are doing. Keeping such nuts won't give anything to the company.
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Sitting with her and talking to her in a friendly manner, all these sessions are over. In my office, although I am the senior HR manager, I am so flexible to my employees that they come up to me even with their personal problems, and together we sort it out. But this girl is exceptional. I have talked with her several times. Even today, I sat with her. But you know what she said, "I'm hurt. I don't want to say anything." You won't believe my patience. She kept on arguing, accusing me, but I was calm. I didn't utter a single harsh word to her. Instead, I tried to make her feel comfortable, talked about her parents. But she... Just now, I went to her and asked, "Are you ok?" She neither looked at me nor said anything.
How long can a senior management person tolerate all these from a trainee? I really don't know.
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I feel that punctuality is an internal feeling that every employee should have. If a person is not feeling that, it does not mean that they are not interested in the job they are doing. Keeping such nuts won't give anything to the company.
"Thanks, all my friends."
Sitting with her and talking to her in a friendly manner, all these sessions are over. In my office, although I am the senior HR manager, I am so flexible to my employees that they come up to me even with their personal problems, and together we sort it out. But this girl is exceptional. I have talked with her several times. Even today, I sat with her. But you know what she said, "I'm hurt. I don't want to say anything." You won't believe my patience. She kept on arguing, accusing me, but I was calm. I didn't utter a single harsh word to her. Instead, I tried to make her feel comfortable, talked about her parents. But she... Just now, I went to her and asked, "Are you ok?" She neither looked at me nor said anything.
How long can a senior management person tolerate all these from a trainee? I really don't know.
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Is she behaving like this from the beginning? There can be a personal problem because everybody needs a job. One can behave in this manner if he/she is going through a psychological disturbance.
I am facing a very typical problem in my office for the last few months. There is a lady employee in our office. She is a trainee in our company. For the last few months, I have noticed that the employees are not maintaining the time of coming to the office. I gave a notice to all, and everyone obeyed my order, except for this girl who kept on coming late. I warned her repeatedly. One day, as I told her, she answered me back, "If I am late, you can take any step (you can deduct my half-day salary) as I mentioned in the notice." I didn't say anything, and that was over.
Last Thursday, she called me in the morning and told me that her mom is not well, so she won't be coming. I told her it was fine. Then again on Friday, she called me and said she wouldn't be able to come as her mom is not well. I informed her that she had to come as our project was suffering due to her absence (she is handling a project alone). She reluctantly agreed. The first half of the day passed, and when I called her, she didn't answer. After multiple attempts, she disconnected the call.
Today she came to my room with the same attitude (everyone has to come to my room to sign the register). I asked her why she behaved that way the previous day and cited previous examples. After the conversation, she left my room. Later, when I went to her room for some other work, I didn't find her. I asked her teammate, who informed me that she had left the office.
Immediately, I called her. At first, she didn't pick up, but after a few attempts, she answered and said she wouldn't work, etc. I managed to make her understand, and she returned to the office.
Now, I seek advice on how to address and prevent such instances of walking out and other disruptive behavior.
PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME... I WILL BE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS
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5I am facing a very typical problem in my office for the last few months. There is a lady employee in our office. She is a trainee in our company. For the last few months, I have noticed that the employees are not maintaining the time of coming to the office. I gave a notice to all, and everyone obeyed my order, except for this girl who kept on coming late. I warned her repeatedly. One day, as I told her, she answered me back, "If I am late, you can take any step (you can deduct my half-day salary) as I mentioned in the notice." I didn't say anything, and that was over.
Last Thursday, she called me in the morning and told me that her mom is not well, so she won't be coming. I told her it was fine. Then again on Friday, she called me and said she wouldn't be able to come as her mom is not well. I informed her that she had to come as our project was suffering due to her absence (she is handling a project alone). She reluctantly agreed. The first half of the day passed, and when I called her, she didn't answer. After multiple attempts, she disconnected the call.
Today she came to my room with the same attitude (everyone has to come to my room to sign the register). I asked her why she behaved that way the previous day and cited previous examples. After the conversation, she left my room. Later, when I went to her room for some other work, I didn't find her. I asked her teammate, who informed me that she had left the office.
Immediately, I called her. At first, she didn't pick up, but after a few attempts, she answered and said she wouldn't work, etc. I managed to make her understand, and she returned to the office.
Now, I seek advice on how to address and prevent such instances of walking out and other disruptive behavior.
PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME... I WILL BE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS
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1) Ask her why.
2) Give her a verbal warning (official).
3) Give her a written warning after the next offense.
4) Sack her if she does it again.
You must take action before the others start taking the same attitude.
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2) Give her a verbal warning (official).
3) Give her a written warning after the next offense.
4) Sack her if she does it again.
You must take action before the others start taking the same attitude.
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Sohini,
We need to be assertive in some cases. As per your emails, I see that you have done your homework. You did not mention one thing: Is she good at her work and completing her job on time without any hassles? Two things we can do in this case:
1) Develop a parallel team of 2 members in the said area in which she is working and maintain the backup.
2) Give her a week's notice with a disciplinary letter. There's no point in wasting time on unproductive resources.
One suggestion is that you can be very good to employees and approachable, but at times you need to make a firm decision when things are going out of our hands.
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We need to be assertive in some cases. As per your emails, I see that you have done your homework. You did not mention one thing: Is she good at her work and completing her job on time without any hassles? Two things we can do in this case:
1) Develop a parallel team of 2 members in the said area in which she is working and maintain the backup.
2) Give her a week's notice with a disciplinary letter. There's no point in wasting time on unproductive resources.
One suggestion is that you can be very good to employees and approachable, but at times you need to make a firm decision when things are going out of our hands.
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As an HR professional, you have to analyze the situation carefully and try to retain the staff. You need to determine if the person is telling the truth or not. In the IT industry, we have to extract work in a smart way to sustain and reduce the turnover ratio.
If her problem is true, give her privileges to complete the project, then move her to another team. If you are not comfortable with her, inform the management accordingly and take the necessary steps according to the company policy.
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If her problem is true, give her privileges to complete the project, then move her to another team. If you are not comfortable with her, inform the management accordingly and take the necessary steps according to the company policy.
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Agreed with PinnacleVidya. In addition to it, find someone who can handle the project and other tasks as well, and then let her resign. As an HR professional, be rational, not emotional. Good Luck!! HR-Generalist
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Dear friends,
I am facing a very typical problem in my office for the last few months. There is a lady employee in our office who is a trainee in our company. For the past few months, I have noticed that the employees are not maintaining the time of coming to the office. I gave a notice to all, and everyone obeyed my order except this girl who kept on coming late. I warned her repeatedly, and one day, as I had mentioned in the notice that I could deduct her half-day salary for being late, she answered back saying, "If I am late, you can take any step." I didn't say anything, and the matter was left at that.
Last Thursday, she called me in the morning and informed me that her mom was not well, so she wouldn't be coming to the office. I agreed. Then on Friday, she called me again, saying she wouldn't be able to come as her mom was still unwell. I informed her that she had to come as her absence was affecting our project, which she was handling alone. She reluctantly agreed, and the first half of the day passed without any issue. I tried calling her, but she didn't answer. When she finally picked up, she abruptly disconnected the call.
Today, she came to my room with the same attitude. I asked her why she behaved that way the previous day and reminded her of past instances. After the conversation, she left my room. Later, when I went to her room for some other work, I didn't find her there. I asked her teammate, who informed me that she had left the office.
I immediately called her, and after initially not picking up, she finally answered. She expressed her unwillingness to work, but after some discussion, she agreed to return to the office.
I seek advice on how to handle this situation and prevent such behavior in the future.
Please help me. I will be grateful for your suggestions.
Well, Sohini, after reviewing the entire conversation, it appears that you are in a difficult situation. If an employee does not adhere to the organization's rules and regulations, it can negatively impact others.
In this case, I suggest preparing a backup plan for her. Since she is handling a project alone, it may not be feasible to take immediate action against her. Once you find a suitable replacement, you can then give her notice and remove her from the company.
Regards,
Dev
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I am facing a very typical problem in my office for the last few months. There is a lady employee in our office who is a trainee in our company. For the past few months, I have noticed that the employees are not maintaining the time of coming to the office. I gave a notice to all, and everyone obeyed my order except this girl who kept on coming late. I warned her repeatedly, and one day, as I had mentioned in the notice that I could deduct her half-day salary for being late, she answered back saying, "If I am late, you can take any step." I didn't say anything, and the matter was left at that.
Last Thursday, she called me in the morning and informed me that her mom was not well, so she wouldn't be coming to the office. I agreed. Then on Friday, she called me again, saying she wouldn't be able to come as her mom was still unwell. I informed her that she had to come as her absence was affecting our project, which she was handling alone. She reluctantly agreed, and the first half of the day passed without any issue. I tried calling her, but she didn't answer. When she finally picked up, she abruptly disconnected the call.
Today, she came to my room with the same attitude. I asked her why she behaved that way the previous day and reminded her of past instances. After the conversation, she left my room. Later, when I went to her room for some other work, I didn't find her there. I asked her teammate, who informed me that she had left the office.
I immediately called her, and after initially not picking up, she finally answered. She expressed her unwillingness to work, but after some discussion, she agreed to return to the office.
I seek advice on how to handle this situation and prevent such behavior in the future.
Please help me. I will be grateful for your suggestions.
Well, Sohini, after reviewing the entire conversation, it appears that you are in a difficult situation. If an employee does not adhere to the organization's rules and regulations, it can negatively impact others.
In this case, I suggest preparing a backup plan for her. Since she is handling a project alone, it may not be feasible to take immediate action against her. Once you find a suitable replacement, you can then give her notice and remove her from the company.
Regards,
Dev
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Dear All,
Interesting matter...!
What I suggest is you should have a discussion with her and try to know her problem on a personal basis...!
Always remember HR is never complete without a personal touch...! Though we have to be professional, it is required in our job...!
What do you say, buddies...!?
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Interesting matter...!
What I suggest is you should have a discussion with her and try to know her problem on a personal basis...!
Always remember HR is never complete without a personal touch...! Though we have to be professional, it is required in our job...!
What do you say, buddies...!?
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Hello,
I am Manjari, here as an Assistant Manager in HR & Admin. Earlier, I was facing the same problem as you. After all the nonsense activities, I terminated her from the organization. Anyways, what is her name? I just want to confirm if she is the same girl.
Have a nice day.
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I am Manjari, here as an Assistant Manager in HR & Admin. Earlier, I was facing the same problem as you. After all the nonsense activities, I terminated her from the organization. Anyways, what is her name? I just want to confirm if she is the same girl.
Have a nice day.
From India, Delhi
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