Dear Pradeep,
It is in fact a common problems and unpredictably unforeseen situation about wage increase and the most valuable is loss of time when cases are dragging years after years and from Tribunal to High Courts?. That is why people do not go to court because this is a common problems in courts case. Your fellow colleagues have been your strength, is not it? If they are going for 2P settlement , why you do not ? After all, there can be order of reference pending before Tribunal or there could be Management and union settlement which Tribunal can Award but when this will happen is uncertain. This is reason, your colleagues preferred individual settlement. The right strategy , as I personally feel right, will be to support your co-workers and stay together unitedly, get money and forget this matter for all the time.
Remember one more thing-Rule of Democracy -"Majority wins and minority looses".If it is undone right this way now and you loose control and strength both, it is possible that your Management targets you along with few others which is right or wrong but is possible as their next step. In fact we do similar tact and play saying everything is fair in love and war.
Best wishes,
RDS Yadav ,
From India, Delhi
142It is in fact a common problems and unpredictably unforeseen situation about wage increase and the most valuable is loss of time when cases are dragging years after years and from Tribunal to High Courts?. That is why people do not go to court because this is a common problems in courts case. Your fellow colleagues have been your strength, is not it? If they are going for 2P settlement , why you do not ? After all, there can be order of reference pending before Tribunal or there could be Management and union settlement which Tribunal can Award but when this will happen is uncertain. This is reason, your colleagues preferred individual settlement. The right strategy , as I personally feel right, will be to support your co-workers and stay together unitedly, get money and forget this matter for all the time.
Remember one more thing-Rule of Democracy -"Majority wins and minority looses".If it is undone right this way now and you loose control and strength both, it is possible that your Management targets you along with few others which is right or wrong but is possible as their next step. In fact we do similar tact and play saying everything is fair in love and war.
Best wishes,
RDS Yadav ,
From India, Delhi
Agreed with RDS Yadav Sir. why are you not accepting it and end the matter. just think on behalf of company. why are you creating such type of atmosphere in company to create such type of situation. i am asking one question with you Mr. Pradeep just think you are father of one son or daughter and you are getting Rs. 15000/- per month and in this time you are buying a gift or chocolate for your son of Rs. 500/-, but can u imagine if your salary increased from 15000/- pm to 30000/ pm, then really you buy chocolate of Rs. 500 or you will buy more than Rs. 500/-. i think you and not only you even every father will buy more than Rs. 500/-. Same thing is between company and his employee. where company is like a father and employee is like his son. so whenever company increased his benefit obviously they will increase your remuneration and other benefit, but when company is not in this condition then can it possible?.
just rethink once again then take your decision. I Think as a Union member its your prime duty to understand the situation between management and company employees.
From India, Rudarpur
just rethink once again then take your decision. I Think as a Union member its your prime duty to understand the situation between management and company employees.
From India, Rudarpur
Dear Gautam, how can you advise an employee to go for an illegal settlement when the management is doing an utter barbarian negotiation? Why don't you think from the employees' side also. I will not advise Pradeep to scrap the trade union principles and go for a settlement injuring the faith of his co workers. I must say that this is unfair and the management should not be allowed to do it again with another employee. See the charges being fabricated against an employee. Don't you think that workers do have acceptance?
My advise now is to approach the Tribunal immediately and inform the machinery of the unfair things going on in the company. Otherwise, this will end up in a situation that no worker will be happy but the management will win the situation. The next step will be dismissal of each worker who did not sign the good service bond. Management can fabricate charges very easily and dismiss him. What all the workers could do is to approach the labour court. By the time the verdict comes, it would be time for retirement and the ultimate loser will be the workers and knowing this fact many abstain from filing suites against management. But using such situation is unfair.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
My advise now is to approach the Tribunal immediately and inform the machinery of the unfair things going on in the company. Otherwise, this will end up in a situation that no worker will be happy but the management will win the situation. The next step will be dismissal of each worker who did not sign the good service bond. Management can fabricate charges very easily and dismiss him. What all the workers could do is to approach the labour court. By the time the verdict comes, it would be time for retirement and the ultimate loser will be the workers and knowing this fact many abstain from filing suites against management. But using such situation is unfair.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Pradeep ji,
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You have been given good inputs by Umakanthan ji and Madhu ji on the basis of your posts, in my view. Madhu ji rightly advised you to approach the Tribunal immediately and inform the machinery of the unfair things going on in the company.
It seems to me that you are having internal union and there is no affiliation with any one. You should hire a services of some one expert from industrial relations domain from your vicinity to guide you on various aspects including how make counter attacks on management steps with drafting letters. You need to built up various evidences of management unfair practices.
Wish you all the best.
From India, Mumbai
Since 16th Jan 2017 onwards this thread is not active.
You have been given good inputs by Umakanthan ji and Madhu ji on the basis of your posts, in my view. Madhu ji rightly advised you to approach the Tribunal immediately and inform the machinery of the unfair things going on in the company.
It seems to me that you are having internal union and there is no affiliation with any one. You should hire a services of some one expert from industrial relations domain from your vicinity to guide you on various aspects including how make counter attacks on management steps with drafting letters. You need to built up various evidences of management unfair practices.
Wish you all the best.
From India, Mumbai
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