Hi Rasel,
Taking disadvantage of being good is very common and we Indian are champions in finding loop holes with the good systems with a habit of not following the law and feel pride in violatng it.
However you must be having leave rules where in you must have specified number of days for different types of leaves. Just stick to that and don't give anything else other than that. If employee is sick and has utilised his sick leave than let him use other leaves i.e. PL, CL etc and after that just let it go on LOP. You will see the result.
Simply follow the leave rules... ( And please do not allow debate on this else you will never get a solution for this)
Kamlesh
From India, Mumbai
3Taking disadvantage of being good is very common and we Indian are champions in finding loop holes with the good systems with a habit of not following the law and feel pride in violatng it.
However you must be having leave rules where in you must have specified number of days for different types of leaves. Just stick to that and don't give anything else other than that. If employee is sick and has utilised his sick leave than let him use other leaves i.e. PL, CL etc and after that just let it go on LOP. You will see the result.
Simply follow the leave rules... ( And please do not allow debate on this else you will never get a solution for this)
Kamlesh
From India, Mumbai
I simply Agree with RameshBashyam. Refer a specific Doctor / hospital for your employees who prefer to take leave on sick leave.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Why not make it mandatory for the sick employee to be checked ('cross checked') by a doctor appointed by the company. Allow those who are found to be really sick and penalise those who are found to have faked sickness (and may be file a police complaint or a complaint before the Medical Council opf India, against the doctor who had issued the fake certificate)
Dr P.K.Kohli
From India, Gurgaon
Dr P.K.Kohli
From India, Gurgaon
Hi Russel!
It depends on your Leave policy... we control our employees' absentism by the following :
1. Front End employees... declared best attendance without any late (minimum late).. and good gift and certificate. + a one time Money Gift
2. For White colour employees we provide a good gift and a certificate
In both the cases we declare the same infront of all the employees and send a group mail to every employee.
3. If someone is really sick then he/she must b at home.... it should be HR Dept's responsibility to find out the where abouts of the employees... visit the sick person's house... or send someone who is not too friendly with that particular person... everything will b clear as day light...
4. Try to motivate your employees ... you may arrange some sort of engagement... like on Friday.. can treat them with some snacks.../ ice creams, Panipuri, Masala muri...etc..in the morning while everybody at the gate 1st thing present one PEN.. and say this for HR Dept....and wish them..
5. Most Important is that Amend your Leave policy.... if your sick leave is more than your CL.. then restrict it that one cannot take self declared Sick leave more than 2 days... if more than 2 days one has to submit Doctor's certificate....declare that if any employee falls since frequently then he/she has to prove his/her medical fitness through official doct.... and if found not fit... then company will take decision against him... etc...
hope this will help your problem
Supriya C Banerji
(M) 9836627666
From India, Calcutta
It depends on your Leave policy... we control our employees' absentism by the following :
1. Front End employees... declared best attendance without any late (minimum late).. and good gift and certificate. + a one time Money Gift
2. For White colour employees we provide a good gift and a certificate
In both the cases we declare the same infront of all the employees and send a group mail to every employee.
3. If someone is really sick then he/she must b at home.... it should be HR Dept's responsibility to find out the where abouts of the employees... visit the sick person's house... or send someone who is not too friendly with that particular person... everything will b clear as day light...
4. Try to motivate your employees ... you may arrange some sort of engagement... like on Friday.. can treat them with some snacks.../ ice creams, Panipuri, Masala muri...etc..in the morning while everybody at the gate 1st thing present one PEN.. and say this for HR Dept....and wish them..
5. Most Important is that Amend your Leave policy.... if your sick leave is more than your CL.. then restrict it that one cannot take self declared Sick leave more than 2 days... if more than 2 days one has to submit Doctor's certificate....declare that if any employee falls since frequently then he/she has to prove his/her medical fitness through official doct.... and if found not fit... then company will take decision against him... etc...
hope this will help your problem
Supriya C Banerji
(M) 9836627666
From India, Calcutta
Leave Policy
Hi Russel!
It depends on your Leave policy... we control our employees' absentism by the following :
1. Front End employees... declared best attendance without any late (minimum late).. and good gift and certificate. + a one time Money Gift
2. For White colour employees we provide a good gift and a certificate
In both the cases we declare the same infront of all the employees and send a group mail to every employee.
3. If someone is really sick then he/she must b at home.... it should be HR Dept's responsibility to find out the where abouts of the employees... visit the sick person's house... or send someone who is not too friendly with that particular person... everything will b clear as day light...
4. Try to motivate your employees ... you may arrange some sort of engagement... like on Friday.. can treat them with some snacks.../ ice creams, Panipuri, Masala muri...etc..in the morning while everybody at the gate 1st thing present one PEN.. and say this for HR Dept....and wish them..
5. Most Important is that Amend your Leave policy.... if your sick leave is more than your CL.. then restrict it that one cannot take self declared Sick leave more than 2 days... if more than 2 days one has to submit Doctor's certificate....declare that if any employee falls since frequently then he/she has to prove his/her medical fitness through official doct.... and if found not fit... then company will take decision against him... etc...
hope this will help your problem
Supriya C Banerji
(M) 9836627666
From India, Calcutta
Hi Russel!
It depends on your Leave policy... we control our employees' absentism by the following :
1. Front End employees... declared best attendance without any late (minimum late).. and good gift and certificate. + a one time Money Gift
2. For White colour employees we provide a good gift and a certificate
In both the cases we declare the same infront of all the employees and send a group mail to every employee.
3. If someone is really sick then he/she must b at home.... it should be HR Dept's responsibility to find out the where abouts of the employees... visit the sick person's house... or send someone who is not too friendly with that particular person... everything will b clear as day light...
4. Try to motivate your employees ... you may arrange some sort of engagement... like on Friday.. can treat them with some snacks.../ ice creams, Panipuri, Masala muri...etc..in the morning while everybody at the gate 1st thing present one PEN.. and say this for HR Dept....and wish them..
5. Most Important is that Amend your Leave policy.... if your sick leave is more than your CL.. then restrict it that one cannot take self declared Sick leave more than 2 days... if more than 2 days one has to submit Doctor's certificate....declare that if any employee falls since frequently then he/she has to prove his/her medical fitness through official doct.... and if found not fit... then company will take decision against him... etc...
hope this will help your problem
Supriya C Banerji
(M) 9836627666
From India, Calcutta
Hi, I am in New Zealand and there is a general sick leave policy applies to most of the organisations. An employee gets 5 days sick leave per year. If anyone happen to take more than 5 days a year, they have to take leave without pay with discretion to the Manager. However, I work for the University and it is different and even special from other Universities in NZ. I am lucky to have 10 days sick leave for the first year and no limit from second year onwards. Cheers.
From New Zealand, Palmerston North
From New Zealand, Palmerston North
HI Dear
as i understand, he mistake was a favor to someone, however just heck what your HR policy in place says, how many sick leave does it allow to your employees i.e. how may paid sick leaves are allowed considering that only all the emplyees shall be eligible for leave, however in case there is'nt ay HR policy in place then you may draft leave policy drafted and the signed from all your emplyees
Sachin Dhingra
9810510303
From India, Calcutta
as i understand, he mistake was a favor to someone, however just heck what your HR policy in place says, how many sick leave does it allow to your employees i.e. how may paid sick leaves are allowed considering that only all the emplyees shall be eligible for leave, however in case there is'nt ay HR policy in place then you may draft leave policy drafted and the signed from all your emplyees
Sachin Dhingra
9810510303
From India, Calcutta
Hi Dear,
Well this is a serious problem and is to be attended with immediate effect, the first thing are you in a position to go for any amendment in your organisation's leave policy? Try to do so keeping all statutory norm intact by making the number of medical leaves fixed for all.tell them to submit medical certificate issued by a doctor and not a quack wherein the doctor has to attest the signature of your employee and this fitness certificate has to be on the genuine writing pad/ letterhead of the concerned doctor and the signature has to be duely stamped by the concerned doctor. tell the employee to submit his details regarding his illness (prescriptions, reports test reports etc.)
Do this and see the difference. Make it mandatory for all and even for a single medical leave at the same time try to make provision of encashable leaves(CL can be encashed for a financial year or so etc.)
Good Luck
Anshumita.
From India, Calcutta
Well this is a serious problem and is to be attended with immediate effect, the first thing are you in a position to go for any amendment in your organisation's leave policy? Try to do so keeping all statutory norm intact by making the number of medical leaves fixed for all.tell them to submit medical certificate issued by a doctor and not a quack wherein the doctor has to attest the signature of your employee and this fitness certificate has to be on the genuine writing pad/ letterhead of the concerned doctor and the signature has to be duely stamped by the concerned doctor. tell the employee to submit his details regarding his illness (prescriptions, reports test reports etc.)
Do this and see the difference. Make it mandatory for all and even for a single medical leave at the same time try to make provision of encashable leaves(CL can be encashed for a financial year or so etc.)
Good Luck
Anshumita.
From India, Calcutta
Dear Alwar, Regarding Leave Policy... only CL cannot be carried forward... SICK & PL can... at least this is according to the labour laws........ Regards, Supriya Sr. Officer _ HR & Admin ABRL
From India, Calcutta
From India, Calcutta
Hi,
I am having a unique solution for the problem faced by you as an HR manager, because of the employees taking leaves with fake medical certificates.
Why doesn’t your organization go for hiring a doctor as a consultant and make your employee refer to that very specific doctor. If an employee is taking leave for a day or two, he might only be suffering from any of the normal disease like Fever/Headache/ cold etc., which a general physician can easily cure.
Let this doctor be the judge and let him issue the medical certificates and if an employee is genuinely having any problem, any time this doctor can refer the patient to any of the specialist in the town.
Now let’s focus on the monetary part.
Suppose if your employee goes to see the normal physician and he charges Rs X as consulting fee. Your company can have a tie up with that doctor and can anytime convince him to charge .75 x as consulting fees, as your company is advising all employees to visit you in case of health problem.
At the same time, please ask to him to charge 50% of .75 x from the patients and rest 50% your company can bear the cost.
This situation will lead to a win - win situation from both sides as any employee who is genuinely ill will get treatment on discounted price and at the same time the cost incurred by your company on doctors fees, would be any time far less than the loss of pay, when an employee not reporting to the office.
I hope this will solve the problem in your organization..:neutral:
Thanks,
Mudit Malhotra
From India, Madras
I am having a unique solution for the problem faced by you as an HR manager, because of the employees taking leaves with fake medical certificates.
Why doesn’t your organization go for hiring a doctor as a consultant and make your employee refer to that very specific doctor. If an employee is taking leave for a day or two, he might only be suffering from any of the normal disease like Fever/Headache/ cold etc., which a general physician can easily cure.
Let this doctor be the judge and let him issue the medical certificates and if an employee is genuinely having any problem, any time this doctor can refer the patient to any of the specialist in the town.
Now let’s focus on the monetary part.
Suppose if your employee goes to see the normal physician and he charges Rs X as consulting fee. Your company can have a tie up with that doctor and can anytime convince him to charge .75 x as consulting fees, as your company is advising all employees to visit you in case of health problem.
At the same time, please ask to him to charge 50% of .75 x from the patients and rest 50% your company can bear the cost.
This situation will lead to a win - win situation from both sides as any employee who is genuinely ill will get treatment on discounted price and at the same time the cost incurred by your company on doctors fees, would be any time far less than the loss of pay, when an employee not reporting to the office.
I hope this will solve the problem in your organization..:neutral:
Thanks,
Mudit Malhotra
From India, Madras
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