4 Ms of management to steer the business of any organization are: Money, Materials, Machines and Men (includes Women). Even to manage first three (Money, Materials & Machines), human resources (Men) are needed. It is strange that this simple concept is not understood/ appreciated by the owners of some businesses.
If 'Men' constitute a vital resource, you can't manage a business profitably without making this resource effective. And to make them effective, there is a definite need for a Human Resource department in each organization. In small set ups, HR & Admin can be combined into one department.
The discussion initiated by Mr. M K Verma deserves attention, but unless these views expressed by experts can reach the owners, the status quo may continue by default. The need, therefore, may be to discuss how to drive this awareness..
From India, Delhi
455If 'Men' constitute a vital resource, you can't manage a business profitably without making this resource effective. And to make them effective, there is a definite need for a Human Resource department in each organization. In small set ups, HR & Admin can be combined into one department.
The discussion initiated by Mr. M K Verma deserves attention, but unless these views expressed by experts can reach the owners, the status quo may continue by default. The need, therefore, may be to discuss how to drive this awareness..
From India, Delhi
Dear Members,
Greetings for the Day!!!
How many employees should a company have before there is a need for an HR Department? As companies grow, there is a need to administer the HR function, but that doesn't necessitate an HR Department. In fact, Last experience has shown that until the company has at least 50 employees, that "department" -- really a function -- can consist of or be handled by one person...often much to the dismay of that one person.
Between outsourcing such things as payroll and the initial writing of an employee handbook, and with the plethora of software for HR today, one person should be able to develop and administer the function.
Of course, there are variations to this theme. In some companies where recruiting has been a major activity, there may well be a need to have an HR administrator or "Benefits Clerk" and a recruiter. But in most small companies an Office Manager can suffice.
Historically, what necessitates an HR Department are the functions and responsibilities which no one else either wants or is capable of doing. From recruiting to orienting new employees, from writing job descriptions to tracking attendance, and from instituting and monitoring policies to monitoring benefits, there has been a need for an HR generalist to assist senior management in both establishing a structure to holding down costs of administration. In fact, I have felt for some time that the initial title for the HR person should be "Administrative Manager."
Regards,
Shubha
Fb Id:
From India, Patna
Greetings for the Day!!!
How many employees should a company have before there is a need for an HR Department? As companies grow, there is a need to administer the HR function, but that doesn't necessitate an HR Department. In fact, Last experience has shown that until the company has at least 50 employees, that "department" -- really a function -- can consist of or be handled by one person...often much to the dismay of that one person.
Between outsourcing such things as payroll and the initial writing of an employee handbook, and with the plethora of software for HR today, one person should be able to develop and administer the function.
Of course, there are variations to this theme. In some companies where recruiting has been a major activity, there may well be a need to have an HR administrator or "Benefits Clerk" and a recruiter. But in most small companies an Office Manager can suffice.
Historically, what necessitates an HR Department are the functions and responsibilities which no one else either wants or is capable of doing. From recruiting to orienting new employees, from writing job descriptions to tracking attendance, and from instituting and monitoring policies to monitoring benefits, there has been a need for an HR generalist to assist senior management in both establishing a structure to holding down costs of administration. In fact, I have felt for some time that the initial title for the HR person should be "Administrative Manager."
Regards,
Shubha
Fb Id:
From India, Patna
Dear MK Verma,
All the progressive, top notch & good will co's does understand the value of Human resource management & having full fledged HR team.
There may be some small scale or lala type co's, running their business without HR mgt.such kind of Co's are unprofessional in nature, work without objective & targets also they add small amount to their annual turnover.
Having HR dept in a company is not only the important thing, Important is to to provide them power as HR person.
From India, Gurgaon
All the progressive, top notch & good will co's does understand the value of Human resource management & having full fledged HR team.
There may be some small scale or lala type co's, running their business without HR mgt.such kind of Co's are unprofessional in nature, work without objective & targets also they add small amount to their annual turnover.
Having HR dept in a company is not only the important thing, Important is to to provide them power as HR person.
From India, Gurgaon
Hello Mr Verma,
To know the origin of HR we have to get back on Time.
With the advent of Industrial Revolution the focus temporarily
shifted on Mass Production Machines.
However very soon people who pioneered the human behaviour studies, understood
the importance of PEOPLE in the well being of an organization.
While Machines,Money,Methods etc had their prominence
the FOCUS shifted to MEN.
In the last century several names evolved before HR came to stay.
All progressive companies have HR departments.
Even if they do not have one they would soon start one.
V.Raghunathan
From India
To know the origin of HR we have to get back on Time.
With the advent of Industrial Revolution the focus temporarily
shifted on Mass Production Machines.
However very soon people who pioneered the human behaviour studies, understood
the importance of PEOPLE in the well being of an organization.
While Machines,Money,Methods etc had their prominence
the FOCUS shifted to MEN.
In the last century several names evolved before HR came to stay.
All progressive companies have HR departments.
Even if they do not have one they would soon start one.
V.Raghunathan
From India
Dear All,
HR Function can be monitored or done by different department, where are option against HR Department.
For running business, Mgmt want to do Sales, Purchase, Accounting. these are department actively participants.
For HR - there are miss-perceptional, there roles be done effectively for allotted to other department.
We HR Person should make ourselves effectively for getting profitable results towards organisation. Then & Then each company will recruit HR Person.
Keep Posting...
From India, Delhi
HR Function can be monitored or done by different department, where are option against HR Department.
For running business, Mgmt want to do Sales, Purchase, Accounting. these are department actively participants.
For HR - there are miss-perceptional, there roles be done effectively for allotted to other department.
We HR Person should make ourselves effectively for getting profitable results towards organisation. Then & Then each company will recruit HR Person.
Keep Posting...
From India, Delhi
Dear Varma,
If one company is able to engage a HR man, I think it is suffice to them. Using a software, the HR man can run the show. But , the management has to provide a work station and other facilities to HR which is a costly affair in their opinion. But they are forgetting about the benefit of keeping HR man. Now a days HR man is doing the TDS work also efficiently which helps the management tax matter. However it is upto the management whether they are in need or not..
HRKPATI
Sr.Manager (HR&Legal)
From India, Guwahati
If one company is able to engage a HR man, I think it is suffice to them. Using a software, the HR man can run the show. But , the management has to provide a work station and other facilities to HR which is a costly affair in their opinion. But they are forgetting about the benefit of keeping HR man. Now a days HR man is doing the TDS work also efficiently which helps the management tax matter. However it is upto the management whether they are in need or not..
HRKPATI
Sr.Manager (HR&Legal)
From India, Guwahati
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