Hi Sridevi,
I share your concern about lower payment of salary to HR Executives.
HR position is non-technical & unproductive and cannot be compared with techies.
In order to aspire for high remuneration, HR has to improve his skills and acceptability of multi-task functions. In some companies HR & Admin are clubbed and in such cases they pay more. HR has to focus on imparting training on soft skills program and conduct regular training programs for all employees by drawing an yearly calendar. HR also should take the responsibility of getting trained in ISO. If you are capable of doing all these functions, your employee will definitely increase your salary and if you put a minimum 3 to 5 years experience with the above skills, you will definitely get a good package.
D.SUBBA RAO
From India, Visakhapatnam
17I share your concern about lower payment of salary to HR Executives.
HR position is non-technical & unproductive and cannot be compared with techies.
In order to aspire for high remuneration, HR has to improve his skills and acceptability of multi-task functions. In some companies HR & Admin are clubbed and in such cases they pay more. HR has to focus on imparting training on soft skills program and conduct regular training programs for all employees by drawing an yearly calendar. HR also should take the responsibility of getting trained in ISO. If you are capable of doing all these functions, your employee will definitely increase your salary and if you put a minimum 3 to 5 years experience with the above skills, you will definitely get a good package.
D.SUBBA RAO
From India, Visakhapatnam
To just add to the discussion, cam across an apt article. Career advice (I must say) from a Driver...
1. Getting a driving license does not make you a driver. An MBA does not make you a manager. It is only after you spend several more years learning on the job that you truly qualify to call yourself a manager.
Many young people confuse getting a degree as signifying the end of their learning. Wrong. It’s just the beginning. A degree or a diploma – the licence – simply marks you out as someone qualified to learn from real life experiences. It doesn’t make you an expert.
2. The real world is very different from a classroom. That’s as true for engineers and MBAs and accountants as it is for drivers. Get ready to get surprised.
3. Slog. Get your hands dirty. There’s no other way. If you want to be successful, work hard, dirty your hands – and go beyond your specific role.
4. Initially, what you learn is more important than what you earn. Get a good boss. A good mentor. That’s priceless.
5. Don’t worry about which car you drive. Focus on being a good driver. We could all benefit by staying focused on doing a great job – rather than worrying about the next job, or the next promotion. Do a good job. Success and happiness will follow. Inevitably.
Those then are five fabulous life lessons from an unlikely guru. Follow Karunan’s advice and I guarantee they’ll make a difference to your career. And to your life!
Click to read more details - Prakash Iyer's advice: Slog. Get your hands dirty!!
From India, Mumbai
1. Getting a driving license does not make you a driver. An MBA does not make you a manager. It is only after you spend several more years learning on the job that you truly qualify to call yourself a manager.
Many young people confuse getting a degree as signifying the end of their learning. Wrong. It’s just the beginning. A degree or a diploma – the licence – simply marks you out as someone qualified to learn from real life experiences. It doesn’t make you an expert.
2. The real world is very different from a classroom. That’s as true for engineers and MBAs and accountants as it is for drivers. Get ready to get surprised.
3. Slog. Get your hands dirty. There’s no other way. If you want to be successful, work hard, dirty your hands – and go beyond your specific role.
4. Initially, what you learn is more important than what you earn. Get a good boss. A good mentor. That’s priceless.
5. Don’t worry about which car you drive. Focus on being a good driver. We could all benefit by staying focused on doing a great job – rather than worrying about the next job, or the next promotion. Do a good job. Success and happiness will follow. Inevitably.
Those then are five fabulous life lessons from an unlikely guru. Follow Karunan’s advice and I guarantee they’ll make a difference to your career. And to your life!
Click to read more details - Prakash Iyer's advice: Slog. Get your hands dirty!!
From India, Mumbai
In an open job market, one gets what one deserves. And that is applicable to all types of jobs, not merely the HR jobs. There are organizations which are ready to pay Rs 25 K per month for the same job for which someone else offers only Rs 8 K. All shades of candidates appear for these jobs & there are many who do not make the grade even with the company which offered Rs 8 K per month.
Therefore, it is one's own merit, potential & capability which determines what salary you get. To get onions at the same price as apples, is not yet true in the Indian job market.
From India, Delhi
Therefore, it is one's own merit, potential & capability which determines what salary you get. To get onions at the same price as apples, is not yet true in the Indian job market.
From India, Delhi
Dear Sri and Meenu,
Others have given excellent explanations and advice. Hence, let me ask a few questions.
Before embarking on the study for an MBA, did you do any market survey of the salary scales for different fields? Usually, people in Marketing and Sales get higher wages, followed by people doing finance, then operations, and then HR.
What was your background before going on to do an MBA with HR specialization?
As I have mentioned in some other thread, in the 1960s, one could not get on a Management Diploma or a Master Degree course, without a basic degree and 2 years work experience. Now, the entry requirements are so watered down that people with work experience and no qualification can get on Executive MBA courses.
Just having a qualification is not enough; one has to apply what was learnt. Once, a tutor told us that a Bog Cleaner (A person cleaning toilets) can reflect on the importance of his/her job to the organization's success. I would like you both to say a few words saying why a cleaner is as important as a production manager, though he may be paid poorly.
From United Kingdom
Others have given excellent explanations and advice. Hence, let me ask a few questions.
Before embarking on the study for an MBA, did you do any market survey of the salary scales for different fields? Usually, people in Marketing and Sales get higher wages, followed by people doing finance, then operations, and then HR.
What was your background before going on to do an MBA with HR specialization?
As I have mentioned in some other thread, in the 1960s, one could not get on a Management Diploma or a Master Degree course, without a basic degree and 2 years work experience. Now, the entry requirements are so watered down that people with work experience and no qualification can get on Executive MBA courses.
Just having a qualification is not enough; one has to apply what was learnt. Once, a tutor told us that a Bog Cleaner (A person cleaning toilets) can reflect on the importance of his/her job to the organization's success. I would like you both to say a few words saying why a cleaner is as important as a production manager, though he may be paid poorly.
From United Kingdom
Hi,
This discussion here has inspired me to add my views too,
Hr Being paid less is not a surprising thing for me as I have come across many such well qualified HR Managers who doesn't even have sense of speaking to people.(EGO- A BIG EGO).Let me tell you, corporate world has one and only one goal - and that is Business and profit.What these corporates pay to their employees is their share of efforts, profit/earning against what these employees have contributed towards achieving the profit or making the business roll.As said by some posters that some companies do not value HR, TRUE, The value of HR will only increase when it has got direct impact on the business growth or its improvement.Iam sure If HR performs to an extent of such limit and if they are able to prove to management through their credentials that Business has also grown due to their contribution as well, then question of salary/ growth will never arise.
Today market has gone so flexible that people keep on hopping their jobs, in this scenario employers even do not believe the genuine candidates hence they start with lower salary range and then slowly provide growth.It is some thing like, Employers not only look out for the best, skillfull and competent employees but they urge for most dedicated, loyal and trustworthy candidates too. Unfortunately many a times HR himself is found unsuitable,no matter what qualifications he is possessing.Apart from various points raised elsewhere in this post I have only one point to add that HR Persons can do lot much for the organisations and workforce for the growth, and their growth will be automatic provided trust , patience and real hr talent is delivered with full force and enthusiasm.
I am not hr qualified, but I feel the above is true as per my market experience.
Fact to share - Mother terresa was not HR, Yet she has addressed conferences of HR experts, because she herself displayed a true HR expertise in her life.Love People and people will shower love on you always.
Thanks.
Bijay
From India, Vadodara
This discussion here has inspired me to add my views too,
Hr Being paid less is not a surprising thing for me as I have come across many such well qualified HR Managers who doesn't even have sense of speaking to people.(EGO- A BIG EGO).Let me tell you, corporate world has one and only one goal - and that is Business and profit.What these corporates pay to their employees is their share of efforts, profit/earning against what these employees have contributed towards achieving the profit or making the business roll.As said by some posters that some companies do not value HR, TRUE, The value of HR will only increase when it has got direct impact on the business growth or its improvement.Iam sure If HR performs to an extent of such limit and if they are able to prove to management through their credentials that Business has also grown due to their contribution as well, then question of salary/ growth will never arise.
Today market has gone so flexible that people keep on hopping their jobs, in this scenario employers even do not believe the genuine candidates hence they start with lower salary range and then slowly provide growth.It is some thing like, Employers not only look out for the best, skillfull and competent employees but they urge for most dedicated, loyal and trustworthy candidates too. Unfortunately many a times HR himself is found unsuitable,no matter what qualifications he is possessing.Apart from various points raised elsewhere in this post I have only one point to add that HR Persons can do lot much for the organisations and workforce for the growth, and their growth will be automatic provided trust , patience and real hr talent is delivered with full force and enthusiasm.
I am not hr qualified, but I feel the above is true as per my market experience.
Fact to share - Mother terresa was not HR, Yet she has addressed conferences of HR experts, because she herself displayed a true HR expertise in her life.Love People and people will shower love on you always.
Thanks.
Bijay
From India, Vadodara
Hi All,
I appreciate your valuable suggestions and feedback. And yes HR has to prove his/her talent to get hike in salary what ever it is.
Being an HR iam doing the same My concern is something different from what u people have shared and Its good that i Got many useful information though. Even the Technical people wil get salary paid when he is in bench it happens for everyone. Its not like where he shouldnt pay when he is idle doing nothing. And I dont agree the point HR is not a productive job being an HR i cant accept this.
HR Represents the company with out HR there is no organisation In MNC'S if we go and see there wil be separate Team for HR who will be handling many issues and tough cases too. And in Recruitment he/she has to face many challenges to get the candidate and make them to fit for organization He/she has to satisfy both the organization and the employee .
I heard many people saying HR is an easy job yes it is easy when all are satisfied with the environment and it becomes crucial when it turns negative and not only that HR person handles everything payroll ,leave management , Retention,Recruitment, Formalities etc stil more functions. And some one Raised a point like HR should do multitasking in order to get Hike or something. In small companies HR is responsible for all the activities with the low salary. I think even a child can know how to act according to the situations then how come people with MBA or any respective stream doesn't know to handle the situation. yeah I agree there are people who works for nothing and wil get the salary paid. There are people with this kind of mentality in every where not only in HR. And coming to Ego not only the HR manager shows ego towards employess it happens with everyone depending upon the situation he is facing in the organization.
And finally what I want to share is like HR are paid less in organizations though he is graduate or undergraduate. Iam not blaming all the organizations but with my practical experience I come to know the salary which they are offering is really less. Meenu has raised a good point that something to be done out of it. And Iam not only focusing about the salary part even people who joins the company as fresher wont think about the salary because gaining experience is more important after getting experience they should pay high.
Lets see how it goes and once again thanks for your valuable advice.
From India, Bangalore
I appreciate your valuable suggestions and feedback. And yes HR has to prove his/her talent to get hike in salary what ever it is.
Being an HR iam doing the same My concern is something different from what u people have shared and Its good that i Got many useful information though. Even the Technical people wil get salary paid when he is in bench it happens for everyone. Its not like where he shouldnt pay when he is idle doing nothing. And I dont agree the point HR is not a productive job being an HR i cant accept this.
HR Represents the company with out HR there is no organisation In MNC'S if we go and see there wil be separate Team for HR who will be handling many issues and tough cases too. And in Recruitment he/she has to face many challenges to get the candidate and make them to fit for organization He/she has to satisfy both the organization and the employee .
I heard many people saying HR is an easy job yes it is easy when all are satisfied with the environment and it becomes crucial when it turns negative and not only that HR person handles everything payroll ,leave management , Retention,Recruitment, Formalities etc stil more functions. And some one Raised a point like HR should do multitasking in order to get Hike or something. In small companies HR is responsible for all the activities with the low salary. I think even a child can know how to act according to the situations then how come people with MBA or any respective stream doesn't know to handle the situation. yeah I agree there are people who works for nothing and wil get the salary paid. There are people with this kind of mentality in every where not only in HR. And coming to Ego not only the HR manager shows ego towards employess it happens with everyone depending upon the situation he is facing in the organization.
And finally what I want to share is like HR are paid less in organizations though he is graduate or undergraduate. Iam not blaming all the organizations but with my practical experience I come to know the salary which they are offering is really less. Meenu has raised a good point that something to be done out of it. And Iam not only focusing about the salary part even people who joins the company as fresher wont think about the salary because gaining experience is more important after getting experience they should pay high.
Lets see how it goes and once again thanks for your valuable advice.
From India, Bangalore
I would like to add few more points to the discussion guys if you think HR is unproductive then its totally wrong HR has to face lots of problems in the organization to help employees he/she acts as a mentor between Top management and Employee. And its such a valuable and respectable Job should not end up with mess.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Dear Seniors, I am so thankful to each & every person who have shared there valuable contribution just to make us more clear & motivate us. Regards, Meenu
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Seniors, Why do many companies do prefer MBA candidates only from B schools? Only the institues that makes the difference? please clarify. Regards, Kiran
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
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