Dear Friends, Can someone post a good ppt on " Transition from Army Life to Corporate Life do’s and dont’s"? Thank you in advance! atuljoshi58@gmail.com
From India, Jammu
8From India, Jammu
Dear Atul,
There is no standard PPT. Everything differs from one person to another and how person adjusts to new way of life. Secondly, your rank, number of years spent in defence etc also matters.
There are large number of ex-defence officers who work in IT/BPO companies as Admin Heads. You may go there and personally take feedback from them. When you meet 10 of them, you will understand what are the transition blues.
As far as this forum is concerned, you may click the following link to refer one past post:
https://www.citehr.com/62628-ex-army...tml#post414557
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
There is no standard PPT. Everything differs from one person to another and how person adjusts to new way of life. Secondly, your rank, number of years spent in defence etc also matters.
There are large number of ex-defence officers who work in IT/BPO companies as Admin Heads. You may go there and personally take feedback from them. When you meet 10 of them, you will understand what are the transition blues.
As far as this forum is concerned, you may click the following link to refer one past post:
https://www.citehr.com/62628-ex-army...tml#post414557
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Like Mr Divekar says, there is no set ppt for Defence people who join the Civil organisation. However, I will enumerate some observations based on my experiences:
1. The 'ex-Defence Baggage' may be a advantage (when the task is all about individual planning / execution) or disadvantage (while orders are not obeyed by the subordinates - something an Army officer is not used to this!)
2. Those who switch mid-career from Defence to Civil are advised to shed their erstwhile rank / decoration etc while on the assignment. This is because the majority of the civil organisations bracket these 'fauji' as a peculiar entity where, they feel, commercial interests and marketing logic is not-existing!
3. As Mr Divekar says, the years in service may influence the thinking of the fauji.
4. Those who join after retiring in the senior ranks (say, Colonels and above) and above 20-25 years service are most prone to exhibits their Defence-Baggage.
5. Having said that, yes, there are ex-faujis who have excelled in the civilian sectors - especially, when they are giving a free hand in execute in the assigned task.
Rajusiachen.
From India, Coimbatore
1. The 'ex-Defence Baggage' may be a advantage (when the task is all about individual planning / execution) or disadvantage (while orders are not obeyed by the subordinates - something an Army officer is not used to this!)
2. Those who switch mid-career from Defence to Civil are advised to shed their erstwhile rank / decoration etc while on the assignment. This is because the majority of the civil organisations bracket these 'fauji' as a peculiar entity where, they feel, commercial interests and marketing logic is not-existing!
3. As Mr Divekar says, the years in service may influence the thinking of the fauji.
4. Those who join after retiring in the senior ranks (say, Colonels and above) and above 20-25 years service are most prone to exhibits their Defence-Baggage.
5. Having said that, yes, there are ex-faujis who have excelled in the civilian sectors - especially, when they are giving a free hand in execute in the assigned task.
Rajusiachen.
From India, Coimbatore
Dear All,
Its true, all defence personnel are well trained to say Yes..... It represent accept the challenge and try your best efforts to do it in right way.
As our friend says it is easy to become fauji but difficult to become civilian again..........
But the environment has its own effect, I served in Navy for 18 years as communicator, later entred in corporate as HR/Admin professional. It was very different experience to mixup with civilians.
Time works, I also settled in the new environment. I enjoyed the respect from Top management professional as discipline person, who can handle any situation without any fear.
Presently serving in infrastructure company, where the task are challenging to handle the labour issues. The values inculcated by service works to resolve them easily.
We welcome all Ex- Officers and Jawans to join the corporate at any level, who are willing to practice their faujiness to serve the country forever.
Madan Mohan Bhatt
Ex - Petty Officer (Telegraphy)
From India, New Delhi
Its true, all defence personnel are well trained to say Yes..... It represent accept the challenge and try your best efforts to do it in right way.
As our friend says it is easy to become fauji but difficult to become civilian again..........
But the environment has its own effect, I served in Navy for 18 years as communicator, later entred in corporate as HR/Admin professional. It was very different experience to mixup with civilians.
Time works, I also settled in the new environment. I enjoyed the respect from Top management professional as discipline person, who can handle any situation without any fear.
Presently serving in infrastructure company, where the task are challenging to handle the labour issues. The values inculcated by service works to resolve them easily.
We welcome all Ex- Officers and Jawans to join the corporate at any level, who are willing to practice their faujiness to serve the country forever.
Madan Mohan Bhatt
Ex - Petty Officer (Telegraphy)
From India, New Delhi
Dear Mr. Atul Sir,
I have lots of respect for defence people as I Myself is an ex- defence personnel.However as others have given their views,I just wanted to add that All defence personnel have immense potential to exel in civil/corporate world.But it requires in depth grooming on behavoiral aspect to be very specific it requires aligning the shift of focus from more focused and strict environment to a more diversified and flexible environment.The civil/coporate environment of businness is all related to understanding the very business,its ethics, principles and co- relating the services knowledge and experiences, thereby contributing the same as work performance will enable service personnel to sustain in this industry.One more Fact which I have known is that service personnel must have the acceptance to bitter truths of industry where principal business owners/employers have all the rights to take any discision as far as their business and profit is concerned.
I have come across many officers as well as men in industry, where i have seen our people have achieved remarkable success but it took time for them to win over their pretty EGO, OF being an ex- serviceman or of being something in Fauj.
Thanks
Bijay.
From India, Vadodara
I have lots of respect for defence people as I Myself is an ex- defence personnel.However as others have given their views,I just wanted to add that All defence personnel have immense potential to exel in civil/corporate world.But it requires in depth grooming on behavoiral aspect to be very specific it requires aligning the shift of focus from more focused and strict environment to a more diversified and flexible environment.The civil/coporate environment of businness is all related to understanding the very business,its ethics, principles and co- relating the services knowledge and experiences, thereby contributing the same as work performance will enable service personnel to sustain in this industry.One more Fact which I have known is that service personnel must have the acceptance to bitter truths of industry where principal business owners/employers have all the rights to take any discision as far as their business and profit is concerned.
I have come across many officers as well as men in industry, where i have seen our people have achieved remarkable success but it took time for them to win over their pretty EGO, OF being an ex- serviceman or of being something in Fauj.
Thanks
Bijay.
From India, Vadodara
Dear Members,
I being ex Colonel from the army wish to clear certain mith and misconception. There is nothing like a fauji used to hear'YES'. There is nothing like instant yes in anyorg in the world including any army in the world. It could be perhaps in a terrorists org. An army officer comes to a stage where people listen to him and his command involving life and death after attaining a stature of a selfless leader by sheer training, education, leadership, personal example, leading from the front when he is unsure if he would survive or not. These traits put him at a pedestal where he commands respect and instant obedience. Blind obedience was perhaps a thing during feudalism, surely not now. I am equally imaged to read a word' past baggage'. With due regards to ll here, there is no baggage, rather it is knowledge. Have you seen the clarity and flawless texture, tone and tenure with which an army officer speaks even when facing sure death. I am sure you also must have seen how very educated people refer to chits even when giving own introduction. I worked for 7/8 years into MNCs and trust me with all my conviction, I did not find any match any where. Yes, an issue comes about little bit of transition which does not demand shedding any baggage, rather his experience and front line leadership traits provides him a clear edge. It may be a surprise for many, while in army, one has to account for every new paise, unlike tonnes of losses caused by so many employees and yet they resign and vanish unquestioned. I can quote spate of examples where during NSOs and festival, crores wasted on over provisioning to be sold at less then half price within 30 days of purchase.Here the other mith that fauji at senior level don't know about company fin health and commercial figures, gets shattered. You are only right to the extent, that no fauji believes in manipulated balance sheet. Gentlemen, plz appreciate that an army leader has volunteered lined up to save his life when they know fully well that half of them will not see the light of the day after that action. Therefore I say, here is a forum to learn from rich exp of each other. I am sorry to say that some members in this excellent forum are only out to ad and sell their skills at the cost of others.
From India, Karol Bagh
I being ex Colonel from the army wish to clear certain mith and misconception. There is nothing like a fauji used to hear'YES'. There is nothing like instant yes in anyorg in the world including any army in the world. It could be perhaps in a terrorists org. An army officer comes to a stage where people listen to him and his command involving life and death after attaining a stature of a selfless leader by sheer training, education, leadership, personal example, leading from the front when he is unsure if he would survive or not. These traits put him at a pedestal where he commands respect and instant obedience. Blind obedience was perhaps a thing during feudalism, surely not now. I am equally imaged to read a word' past baggage'. With due regards to ll here, there is no baggage, rather it is knowledge. Have you seen the clarity and flawless texture, tone and tenure with which an army officer speaks even when facing sure death. I am sure you also must have seen how very educated people refer to chits even when giving own introduction. I worked for 7/8 years into MNCs and trust me with all my conviction, I did not find any match any where. Yes, an issue comes about little bit of transition which does not demand shedding any baggage, rather his experience and front line leadership traits provides him a clear edge. It may be a surprise for many, while in army, one has to account for every new paise, unlike tonnes of losses caused by so many employees and yet they resign and vanish unquestioned. I can quote spate of examples where during NSOs and festival, crores wasted on over provisioning to be sold at less then half price within 30 days of purchase.Here the other mith that fauji at senior level don't know about company fin health and commercial figures, gets shattered. You are only right to the extent, that no fauji believes in manipulated balance sheet. Gentlemen, plz appreciate that an army leader has volunteered lined up to save his life when they know fully well that half of them will not see the light of the day after that action. Therefore I say, here is a forum to learn from rich exp of each other. I am sorry to say that some members in this excellent forum are only out to ad and sell their skills at the cost of others.
From India, Karol Bagh
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