Dear All,
I have a friend in HR who is facing a problem.. He is located in the north Indian territory and facing an issue of caste based recruitments. This is leading to loads of political involvement and inflow of candidates who do not fit into the job! Its a large org. but is helpless to stop this practice!
Also, my friend is now facing the political leaders pressures to take their ref.
Pl' advice.
Payal.
From India, Mumbai
3I have a friend in HR who is facing a problem.. He is located in the north Indian territory and facing an issue of caste based recruitments. This is leading to loads of political involvement and inflow of candidates who do not fit into the job! Its a large org. but is helpless to stop this practice!
Also, my friend is now facing the political leaders pressures to take their ref.
Pl' advice.
Payal.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Payal,
Greetings for the day!!!
Could you pls confirm the industry and state where organisation is situated??
If i m not wrong then it happens only in the case of project sites in tribal area or where some labour unions are working.
From India, New Delhi
Greetings for the day!!!
Could you pls confirm the industry and state where organisation is situated??
If i m not wrong then it happens only in the case of project sites in tribal area or where some labour unions are working.
From India, New Delhi
Payal,
This can happen anywhere in India or even in foreign countries.There cant be a clear cut answer to this question. ultimately one has to manage, select the best by sam, dam , dund and bhed.Consul t the seniors also, put them in the front when one has to say NO.One has to be clever. Remember how our BABUS manage, if people are trying to manipulate your friend has to do the same.Your friend has to remember ABCD principle.
Col Virendra
9766551288
This can happen anywhere in India or even in foreign countries.There cant be a clear cut answer to this question. ultimately one has to manage, select the best by sam, dam , dund and bhed.Consul t the seniors also, put them in the front when one has to say NO.One has to be clever. Remember how our BABUS manage, if people are trying to manipulate your friend has to do the same.Your friend has to remember ABCD principle.
Col Virendra
9766551288
Dear Payal,
The same problem we were facing since long. later on we are able to manage it. In this, some front key members of the Union/group are playing a crucial role. You have to play a win-win situation for both. in our case, we had counsel the key members of the union and hold an negotiation with them that 20% of the whole recruitment will be of their's. Remains from outside as our wish.
Now the question comes, how can u bifurcate the 20% and 80%. From the beginning make a list of their people and divide them on the basis of their skills and competences. First try to pick the good skills out of them which can somewhat strengthen you in your recruitment process. Time to time update the status to the key members in a friendly way, so that, they should not feel that some thing is going on without their concern.
Regards,
From India, Bhubaneswar
The same problem we were facing since long. later on we are able to manage it. In this, some front key members of the Union/group are playing a crucial role. You have to play a win-win situation for both. in our case, we had counsel the key members of the union and hold an negotiation with them that 20% of the whole recruitment will be of their's. Remains from outside as our wish.
Now the question comes, how can u bifurcate the 20% and 80%. From the beginning make a list of their people and divide them on the basis of their skills and competences. First try to pick the good skills out of them which can somewhat strengthen you in your recruitment process. Time to time update the status to the key members in a friendly way, so that, they should not feel that some thing is going on without their concern.
Regards,
From India, Bhubaneswar
Payal, If your friend is being facing rascial abuse & if he has proof for it then he can sue the company or else there is little can be done. This is every where.
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Dear All,
Thanks for the response. But here the problem is in a critical stage now. When my friend opposed or tried to put forth the facts of the recruited candidates and their quality, his managers behaviour went sour and now his job is at stake. Now the situation is that even political leaders are involved actively in this and things have started to worsen. He has already started to look out for another job.
I guess its better to move on in such situation rather than being trapped in political webs!
Pl' share your thoughts too.
Rgds,
Payal.
From India, Mumbai
Thanks for the response. But here the problem is in a critical stage now. When my friend opposed or tried to put forth the facts of the recruited candidates and their quality, his managers behaviour went sour and now his job is at stake. Now the situation is that even political leaders are involved actively in this and things have started to worsen. He has already started to look out for another job.
I guess its better to move on in such situation rather than being trapped in political webs!
Pl' share your thoughts too.
Rgds,
Payal.
From India, Mumbai
Any Organisation must not discriminate against any employee (or applicant for employment) with respect to any terms or condition of employment, hiring, promotion, demotion, transfer, recruitment, termination, rates of pay, or other forms of compensation or selection for training, based on the following:
Age (within statutory limits), race, religion, color, gender, disability, national origin, ancestry, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or veteran status.
If this is happening then please approach the top management of the company in a discreet way or lodge a formal complaint to ministry of Labor Dept.
Age (within statutory limits), race, religion, color, gender, disability, national origin, ancestry, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or veteran status.
If this is happening then please approach the top management of the company in a discreet way or lodge a formal complaint to ministry of Labor Dept.
Dear Payal, Please remember "Make it happen or let it happen". Your friend did best still if things are not the way it should be then look for change. Thank you, Sarfaraz
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
When I was in RIL, we were facing the same problem from local politicians. At that time mgmt has kept some stringent eligibility criteria for all candidates (those criteria were hard to crack) viz.- Percentage, age, English communication, critical documentation process, lengthy work timings etc. (and it has been communicated to everyone that these policies are from HO & we have to follow these)
which proved successful to avoid lazy/unskilled reference candidates..................................... You can suggest this.
From India, Nagpur
which proved successful to avoid lazy/unskilled reference candidates..................................... You can suggest this.
From India, Nagpur
I see an excellent opportunity for your friend. He should not emulate a furious "change-the-damn-system" attitude. To be a good change agent, You should also have patience until your turn. It appears that the management has little control on the influence of caste based discrimination. Companies with such weeknesses would face critical situations due to the incompetencies that they build with the such influencial resources. He should demonstrate his persistence to adverse situations for 2 reasons:
1. Treat this as an opportunity to prove his capability to influece management to take decisions. Dont bother if they dont listen to you.They would come to you as they know the difficulties.
2. There would be a situation where your opinion and resistence to such recruitment would be realized as very valuable with one stupid deed of such recruitee. Wait for your turn. Treat this as a case study. Remember you are a HR professional. Not complete until you face all possible situations and attitudes.
Another Job is a good suggestion, but I would go with the known devil that the unknown angel, to prove myself.
Caste basis is not new to any part of India.
Hope this helps.
From United States, Ogden
1. Treat this as an opportunity to prove his capability to influece management to take decisions. Dont bother if they dont listen to you.They would come to you as they know the difficulties.
2. There would be a situation where your opinion and resistence to such recruitment would be realized as very valuable with one stupid deed of such recruitee. Wait for your turn. Treat this as a case study. Remember you are a HR professional. Not complete until you face all possible situations and attitudes.
Another Job is a good suggestion, but I would go with the known devil that the unknown angel, to prove myself.
Caste basis is not new to any part of India.
Hope this helps.
From United States, Ogden
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