Dear Friends,
If any body is handling PF&ESI process in new organisation kindly tell me what activities are being handled in an entire month & how to proceed for it.i have theoryical knowledge,llz help me for this.
Day by Day of Form by Form (Challan )etc.
describe me (challan)
also what is to be done half yearly and annualy.
it is very important pleassssssse guide. if its possible then send me att of sheets.
Regards
Pankaj Sharma(9868923281)
New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
If any body is handling PF&ESI process in new organisation kindly tell me what activities are being handled in an entire month & how to proceed for it.i have theoryical knowledge,llz help me for this.
Day by Day of Form by Form (Challan )etc.
describe me (challan)
also what is to be done half yearly and annualy.
it is very important pleassssssse guide. if its possible then send me att of sheets.
Regards
Pankaj Sharma(9868923281)
New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
Dear Pankaj,
The formalities for ESI is you must have a strength of 20 employees, no matter whether they are getting salary more than 10000/- or lesser. As maximum ceiling of ESI contribution is upto 10000/- Gross/Month only. Those getting 10001/- will be exempted from the ESI.
The Employer should get the Factory or Establishment registered with the ESI Corporation within 15 days of the applicability of ESI Act. The declaration of registration is to be filled in form 01, along with a separate sheet containing the name and address of the Establishment, number of employees, nature of duty and name, designation and address of the manager controlling such persons, in respect of office situated outside. After been satisfied with the application the ESI regional office will allot a code number to the employer.
After that only you can register your employees with the ESI. They have to fill up a declaration form FORM 1, written clearly Male or Female. All the declaration forms should be counter signed by the employer.
Then prepare a return of declaration in form 3 separate for Male & Female within 10 days of filling of declaration form.
Then every employee shall be alloted an temporary identification number.
For PF formalities the company must be 3 years old. After that only it can be registered with the PF department. Even for this Act also the minimum number of employee should be 20.
Every employer of an establishment to which the Employee Provident Fund Act applies, should submit in Form 5A(in duplicate) to the commisioner, particulars of all the branches and departments, owners, directors, partners if any or any other person who is controlling its affair within 15 days of its applicability of the scheme.
On receipt of Form 5A, the commissioner shall verify the particulars submitted and after been satisfied shall allot an Establishment Code No.
Hope now it will be very much clear with you.
Feel free to revert if any problem is there to get it understand.
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
496The formalities for ESI is you must have a strength of 20 employees, no matter whether they are getting salary more than 10000/- or lesser. As maximum ceiling of ESI contribution is upto 10000/- Gross/Month only. Those getting 10001/- will be exempted from the ESI.
The Employer should get the Factory or Establishment registered with the ESI Corporation within 15 days of the applicability of ESI Act. The declaration of registration is to be filled in form 01, along with a separate sheet containing the name and address of the Establishment, number of employees, nature of duty and name, designation and address of the manager controlling such persons, in respect of office situated outside. After been satisfied with the application the ESI regional office will allot a code number to the employer.
After that only you can register your employees with the ESI. They have to fill up a declaration form FORM 1, written clearly Male or Female. All the declaration forms should be counter signed by the employer.
Then prepare a return of declaration in form 3 separate for Male & Female within 10 days of filling of declaration form.
Then every employee shall be alloted an temporary identification number.
For PF formalities the company must be 3 years old. After that only it can be registered with the PF department. Even for this Act also the minimum number of employee should be 20.
Every employer of an establishment to which the Employee Provident Fund Act applies, should submit in Form 5A(in duplicate) to the commisioner, particulars of all the branches and departments, owners, directors, partners if any or any other person who is controlling its affair within 15 days of its applicability of the scheme.
On receipt of Form 5A, the commissioner shall verify the particulars submitted and after been satisfied shall allot an Establishment Code No.
Hope now it will be very much clear with you.
Feel free to revert if any problem is there to get it understand.
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
Hi Amit,
I'm very thankful to U, as I was in undergoing similar situation of Pankaj, as I was to get the information about the ESI proceedings about the end of the day. I contacted few consultants but they all say they could come to office & explain at their convenient time. In the mean time I just try to take a chance thru this site & I GOT IT @ THE RIGHT TIME.
Thank U very much for the brief explaination about the proceedings. It is of great help to all those facing similar situations.
From India, Bangalore
I'm very thankful to U, as I was in undergoing similar situation of Pankaj, as I was to get the information about the ESI proceedings about the end of the day. I contacted few consultants but they all say they could come to office & explain at their convenient time. In the mean time I just try to take a chance thru this site & I GOT IT @ THE RIGHT TIME.
Thank U very much for the brief explaination about the proceedings. It is of great help to all those facing similar situations.
From India, Bangalore
I want to appreciate ur availability for further clarifications, if any. I am truly looking for such mentors or person who is available for everyone over the site as it is beneficial for the newmembers to the sitelike me..
THANK U..
From India, Bangalore
THANK U..
From India, Bangalore
Amit,
I'm back seeking ur help for clarifying few doubts in the ESI proceedings.
I would like to understand whether 20 employees is inclusive of Contract workers & Office Assistant.
We have recently crossed 20 in number, may be about one & a half month back. Due to lack of knowledge & no proper guidance, could not register ourself with ESI. Can we now register with ESI Corporation? If so, any fines/penalty is levied on us?
Anticipate timely reply.
Thank U in advance..
From India, Bangalore
I'm back seeking ur help for clarifying few doubts in the ESI proceedings.
I would like to understand whether 20 employees is inclusive of Contract workers & Office Assistant.
We have recently crossed 20 in number, may be about one & a half month back. Due to lack of knowledge & no proper guidance, could not register ourself with ESI. Can we now register with ESI Corporation? If so, any fines/penalty is levied on us?
Anticipate timely reply.
Thank U in advance..
From India, Bangalore
Hi
Give me your email ID, I shall send you a presentation on PF and ESIC, which will thoroughly anwer all your queries and also guide you about the monthly and yearly documentation related work.
with regards,
Umesh Chaudhary
(umesh.chaudhary@ril.com)
From India, Delhi
Give me your email ID, I shall send you a presentation on PF and ESIC, which will thoroughly anwer all your queries and also guide you about the monthly and yearly documentation related work.
with regards,
Umesh Chaudhary
(umesh.chaudhary@ril.com)
From India, Delhi
Yes, the 20 employees is inclusive of all, incl. contract labour or corporate staff. Also to correct here that a new company shall also apply for PF registration immediately after its incorporation after having 20 no. of employees.
Also, there is a provision of voluntary registraiton of PF and ESIC, when a co. has less than 20 employees, even in such case the employer can apply for voluntary PF or ESIC registration after all its employees are agreed for the deduction of PF and ESIC as applicable to them,
For PF visit epfindia.nic.in
For ESI visit esic.nic.in
regards,
Umesh
(umesh.chaudhary@ril.com)
(welcomeumesh@ril.com
From India, Delhi
Also, there is a provision of voluntary registraiton of PF and ESIC, when a co. has less than 20 employees, even in such case the employer can apply for voluntary PF or ESIC registration after all its employees are agreed for the deduction of PF and ESIC as applicable to them,
For PF visit epfindia.nic.in
For ESI visit esic.nic.in
regards,
Umesh
(umesh.chaudhary@ril.com)
(welcomeumesh@ril.com
From India, Delhi
Hi Umesh,
Thank U for your kind response with the details of websites & correction related to PF.
My id is
.
In anticipation of the ppt w.r.t ESI & PF, I would like to thank U in advance.
From India, Bangalore
Thank U for your kind response with the details of websites & correction related to PF.
My id is
In anticipation of the ppt w.r.t ESI & PF, I would like to thank U in advance.
From India, Bangalore
Hi Sumathi,
Yes Contract workers are also covered under ESI Act. But it is mainly the responsibility of their contractor to maintain their ESI status..
Yes you just go ahead and register your office with the ESI.. I think they will be convinced with the real problems and will not charge any fine..
As i did the same in my previous assignment without any fine..
In one of my previous organisation nobody was been registered with the ESI, even our office had a sub-code alloted to them. So i just met with teh responsible person and informed them about the real problems and that been solved without any surcharge or fine..
Even i registered one of another office after across 2 months without any fine.. So it is not very late go ahead and meet with the responsible person, definitely it will be solved out..
Wish you All D Best..
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
Yes Contract workers are also covered under ESI Act. But it is mainly the responsibility of their contractor to maintain their ESI status..
Yes you just go ahead and register your office with the ESI.. I think they will be convinced with the real problems and will not charge any fine..
As i did the same in my previous assignment without any fine..
In one of my previous organisation nobody was been registered with the ESI, even our office had a sub-code alloted to them. So i just met with teh responsible person and informed them about the real problems and that been solved without any surcharge or fine..
Even i registered one of another office after across 2 months without any fine.. So it is not very late go ahead and meet with the responsible person, definitely it will be solved out..
Wish you All D Best..
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
Dear Pankaj,
Thanks for your comments..
Here i would like to put more lights on the PF Act..
After getting an Establishment code number,the Employer is required to give the list of all employees entitled to become members of the scheme on the date of its applicability, in form 9 within 15 days of such date. This return of membership is to be accompanied by nomination of each such employee in form 2.
The employer is required to submit a monthly return in Form 5 giving the names and other particulars of the new members. This form is to be submitted within 15 days of the close of every month along with nomination form of each member. If no new members join the fund in a month, then a "NIL" return should be sent.
Besides, the employer is required to submit a copy of the wage payment register of members of the fund who have left the service within 15 days of the close of every month.
A monthly return of contributions in the prescribed form within 25 days of close of every month, along with triplicate copies of challans for the amount of contributions & Administrative charges deposited.
If no contribution has been recovered then a "NIL" return should be furnished by the employer.
Lastly employer has to submit annual return of contribution in FORM 6-A.
Hope now it has been clear with you regarding the obligations of employer's.
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
Thanks for your comments..
Here i would like to put more lights on the PF Act..
After getting an Establishment code number,the Employer is required to give the list of all employees entitled to become members of the scheme on the date of its applicability, in form 9 within 15 days of such date. This return of membership is to be accompanied by nomination of each such employee in form 2.
The employer is required to submit a monthly return in Form 5 giving the names and other particulars of the new members. This form is to be submitted within 15 days of the close of every month along with nomination form of each member. If no new members join the fund in a month, then a "NIL" return should be sent.
Besides, the employer is required to submit a copy of the wage payment register of members of the fund who have left the service within 15 days of the close of every month.
A monthly return of contributions in the prescribed form within 25 days of close of every month, along with triplicate copies of challans for the amount of contributions & Administrative charges deposited.
If no contribution has been recovered then a "NIL" return should be furnished by the employer.
Lastly employer has to submit annual return of contribution in FORM 6-A.
Hope now it has been clear with you regarding the obligations of employer's.
Regards,
Amit Seth.
From India, Ahmadabad
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