Dear friends,
Namaskar.
It is a matter of fact that abou 5 years back it was not an easy task to get admissions into engineering colleges in India. Some private colleges were seeking even upto 5 lacs donations. Now about 40% seats are remaining vacant in the country. What is the matter? What will be its consequence in coming years?
Regards,
Jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
174Namaskar.
It is a matter of fact that abou 5 years back it was not an easy task to get admissions into engineering colleges in India. Some private colleges were seeking even upto 5 lacs donations. Now about 40% seats are remaining vacant in the country. What is the matter? What will be its consequence in coming years?
Regards,
Jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
Dear HR Friends :lol:
In my view the private engineering college entry is very good. It makes more people to get engineering degree. India need good teachers which are in always demand. If private colleges start focus to obtaining good teachers then the admission will improve.
So the reason for empty seats for admission because of teachers.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
Coimbatore
mobile: 09363209839
From India, Mumbai
In my view the private engineering college entry is very good. It makes more people to get engineering degree. India need good teachers which are in always demand. If private colleges start focus to obtaining good teachers then the admission will improve.
So the reason for empty seats for admission because of teachers.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
Coimbatore
mobile: 09363209839
From India, Mumbai
We are expressing our opinions on the basis of perceptions an no facts have been presented.
Some facts which need to be seen . . .
Number of Engineering Colleges
- 10 years ago
- 5 years ago
- TODAY
No. of colleges who have been certified by Authority
No. of colleges who have been awaiting certification by Authority
No. of colleges whose certification has been cancelled by Authority
No. of Colleges having Very Good Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having 'decent' Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having minimum Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having 'NO' Infrastructure
The above set of facts will give us a clearer picture of the QUALITY of Engineering Colleges which are mushrooming today since ENGG Colleges have now become 'lucrative business areas' ... on account of donation money and other reasons.
Also . . . the increase in the number of engineering colleges have been phenomenal in the last decade.
The empty seats do not point to any apathy towards engineering. the total number of engineers produced is (i guess) ever increasing. Only the percentage occupancy of seats is decreasing.
Once we have the facts straight ... the whole situation whould be clearer ...
... shoOOonya ...
From Switzerland, Geneva
Some facts which need to be seen . . .
Number of Engineering Colleges
- 10 years ago
- 5 years ago
- TODAY
No. of colleges who have been certified by Authority
No. of colleges who have been awaiting certification by Authority
No. of colleges whose certification has been cancelled by Authority
No. of Colleges having Very Good Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having 'decent' Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having minimum Infrastructure
No. of Colleges having 'NO' Infrastructure
The above set of facts will give us a clearer picture of the QUALITY of Engineering Colleges which are mushrooming today since ENGG Colleges have now become 'lucrative business areas' ... on account of donation money and other reasons.
Also . . . the increase in the number of engineering colleges have been phenomenal in the last decade.
The empty seats do not point to any apathy towards engineering. the total number of engineers produced is (i guess) ever increasing. Only the percentage occupancy of seats is decreasing.
Once we have the facts straight ... the whole situation whould be clearer ...
... shoOOonya ...
From Switzerland, Geneva
:o
If the colleges has good teachers then the colleges will improve on their own. Many of them build brick and morter but not on people.
GOOD TEACHERS WILL MAKE A MARK ON every where.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
Coimbatore
09363209839
From India, Mumbai
If the colleges has good teachers then the colleges will improve on their own. Many of them build brick and morter but not on people.
GOOD TEACHERS WILL MAKE A MARK ON every where.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
Coimbatore
09363209839
From India, Mumbai
hi ...
Ask an engineer how HE CHOSE his engineering college or built his preference list.
He will tell you that it was entirely by rankings and perceptions . And final admission was on the basis of his marks ;-))
There is no way a student can know about faculty from outside. May be some students take the trouble of actually visiting the college and find out from past experience. During this visit also, the infrastructure has a greater influence on their perceptions rather than student opinion. And due to limited time and efofrt, they would visit the top colleges only .... where rankings / perceptions come to play ...
So ... Faculty may indeed be instrumental in defining the quality of Engineers produced BUT they hardly play a significant role in influencing the admission process.
From Switzerland, Geneva
Ask an engineer how HE CHOSE his engineering college or built his preference list.
He will tell you that it was entirely by rankings and perceptions . And final admission was on the basis of his marks ;-))
There is no way a student can know about faculty from outside. May be some students take the trouble of actually visiting the college and find out from past experience. During this visit also, the infrastructure has a greater influence on their perceptions rather than student opinion. And due to limited time and efofrt, they would visit the top colleges only .... where rankings / perceptions come to play ...
So ... Faculty may indeed be instrumental in defining the quality of Engineers produced BUT they hardly play a significant role in influencing the admission process.
From Switzerland, Geneva
"The empty seats do not point to any apathy towards engineering. the total number of engineers produced is (i guess) ever increasing. Only the percentage occupancy of seats is decreasing."
Dear friends,
Namaskar.
Sho00onya and Venkatesan have perceived the issue at two different levels. Sho00onya believes that there is an increase of engineering colleges and so although the number of engineering aspirants has gone up the seats in the engineering colleges are remaining vacant. His argument sounds cogent but can any one give the actual figures of engineering aspirants in preceding 5 years?
Venkatesan while accepting the position has suggested remedy. In fact, the low salary given by private colleges does not attract talented stuff. This also sounds logical. But is it a factor to depress aspiration for an engineering degree? It needs to be pondered.
regards,
Jogeshwar.
From India, Delhi
Dear friends,
Namaskar.
Sho00onya and Venkatesan have perceived the issue at two different levels. Sho00onya believes that there is an increase of engineering colleges and so although the number of engineering aspirants has gone up the seats in the engineering colleges are remaining vacant. His argument sounds cogent but can any one give the actual figures of engineering aspirants in preceding 5 years?
Venkatesan while accepting the position has suggested remedy. In fact, the low salary given by private colleges does not attract talented stuff. This also sounds logical. But is it a factor to depress aspiration for an engineering degree? It needs to be pondered.
regards,
Jogeshwar.
From India, Delhi
Sho00onya has switched on to another level . So the question remains whether inadequate infrastructure has depressed aspiration for an engineering degree. If it is true why seats are remaining vacant even in A grade colleges?
This question may be applicable against the conjecture of Venkatesan also.
Regards,
Jogeshwar.
From India, Delhi
This question may be applicable against the conjecture of Venkatesan also.
Regards,
Jogeshwar.
From India, Delhi
I am very surprised to hear that seats are empty in A Grade colleges too.
Its seems an impossiblity.
Doctor... could you please give us more details on this example ... which specific college / city / state / branch of engineering are you talking about.
From Switzerland, Geneva
Its seems an impossiblity.
Doctor... could you please give us more details on this example ... which specific college / city / state / branch of engineering are you talking about.
From Switzerland, Geneva
hi all,
i too want to put my views on this issue..
people who aspire engineering are mostly from the southern states.. there are lot of private colleges in tamil nadu, andhra pradesh and as well karnataka.
i completed my +2 in 1999, at tht time only ther are lot of seats vacant in karnataka. ofcourse AP was then growing.. in TN they are calling people and offering seats to candidates calling personally. but this doesn't mean tht people who are aspiring engineering did not came down. infact the new statistics show tht every year who are appearing for the engineering entrance exams is growing by a lakh only in AP. jus think about the country.
coming to seats not occupied in A grade colleges.. yes, there are colleges in both AP and TN (no idea abt north).. where the seats are not occupied in some traditional branches like civil and mechanical. this may be because of IT boom and the pacakages and less scope of making a carrer in tht field. if u take an civil engineer/ mechanical/ computer... anything every one are shifting their brach to computers mostly(9/10). this is the latest trend and jobs are available to people..
yes abt the infrastruture.. people could not go and look at the college, because neither the students can predict the college where they get the seat nor they may also not get the admitted to the college they wish.. so private college are utilizing this and not making any efforts in delivering quality output... (business for private colleges). yes this may not be applicable to all the colleges but mostly the private colleges travel in the same boat..
Thanks and Regards
Sridhar
From India, Madras
i too want to put my views on this issue..
people who aspire engineering are mostly from the southern states.. there are lot of private colleges in tamil nadu, andhra pradesh and as well karnataka.
i completed my +2 in 1999, at tht time only ther are lot of seats vacant in karnataka. ofcourse AP was then growing.. in TN they are calling people and offering seats to candidates calling personally. but this doesn't mean tht people who are aspiring engineering did not came down. infact the new statistics show tht every year who are appearing for the engineering entrance exams is growing by a lakh only in AP. jus think about the country.
coming to seats not occupied in A grade colleges.. yes, there are colleges in both AP and TN (no idea abt north).. where the seats are not occupied in some traditional branches like civil and mechanical. this may be because of IT boom and the pacakages and less scope of making a carrer in tht field. if u take an civil engineer/ mechanical/ computer... anything every one are shifting their brach to computers mostly(9/10). this is the latest trend and jobs are available to people..
yes abt the infrastruture.. people could not go and look at the college, because neither the students can predict the college where they get the seat nor they may also not get the admitted to the college they wish.. so private college are utilizing this and not making any efforts in delivering quality output... (business for private colleges). yes this may not be applicable to all the colleges but mostly the private colleges travel in the same boat..
Thanks and Regards
Sridhar
From India, Madras
hi all!!!
many have presented their views on this,,,which i partially agree with.Adding to it with the little i know,'
as shoonya pointed out its a decreasing percentage occupancy but incresing absolute number of engg aspirants/graduates
though the quality of engg churned out by many colleges is on par wth some reputed institutes, they get to lose out.think of it:
1.Every recruiter looks at the top 3-4 engg colleges in the city/state(what happens to the remaining top notch students in other colleges???)
2.After sruggling for 4 yrs and graduating wth a b.tech/ B.E degree, yoyu realise you dont have a clear edge as there are lakhs of engg graduates, so you wish to proceed for higher studies where the available seats are a few thousands, (M.Tech, M.S, M.B.A, etc)
3. The advent of services sector which refuses engineers as CSE's ,is a set back initially :(
4. When you pursue higher studies,u realize you are treated equal to other graduates( u spend four years doing what others did in three years)
5. if previously ads said: engineers wanted, they now say
engg pls do not apply
so these things do contribute to growing apathy towards engg.
but thinking of the future, India now has great prospects in engineering and design, If the youth realises this and has patience to work towards it..theres no saying they'll rule.
cheers to all engineers...,
shweta challa
many have presented their views on this,,,which i partially agree with.Adding to it with the little i know,'
as shoonya pointed out its a decreasing percentage occupancy but incresing absolute number of engg aspirants/graduates
though the quality of engg churned out by many colleges is on par wth some reputed institutes, they get to lose out.think of it:
1.Every recruiter looks at the top 3-4 engg colleges in the city/state(what happens to the remaining top notch students in other colleges???)
2.After sruggling for 4 yrs and graduating wth a b.tech/ B.E degree, yoyu realise you dont have a clear edge as there are lakhs of engg graduates, so you wish to proceed for higher studies where the available seats are a few thousands, (M.Tech, M.S, M.B.A, etc)
3. The advent of services sector which refuses engineers as CSE's ,is a set back initially :(
4. When you pursue higher studies,u realize you are treated equal to other graduates( u spend four years doing what others did in three years)
5. if previously ads said: engineers wanted, they now say
engg pls do not apply
so these things do contribute to growing apathy towards engg.
but thinking of the future, India now has great prospects in engineering and design, If the youth realises this and has patience to work towards it..theres no saying they'll rule.
cheers to all engineers...,
shweta challa
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