Greetings!
I need clarity on whether some of the BPOs are not conducting educational verifications at the time of joining, will they take action if the same is revealed later. Recently, I discovered that one of my colleagues is using fake graduation documents in the quality department. It is concerning to see individuals in undeserving positions, lacking the necessary capabilities to handle their roles. Eventually, a lack of knowledge will become evident, especially for an employee who was hired through a reference.
I would appreciate your thoughts on how to address this issue with the appropriate individuals who can take action. Currently, my reach is limited to the talent acquisition team of the organization.
Regards,
AB
From India, Moradabad
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2I need clarity on whether some of the BPOs are not conducting educational verifications at the time of joining, will they take action if the same is revealed later. Recently, I discovered that one of my colleagues is using fake graduation documents in the quality department. It is concerning to see individuals in undeserving positions, lacking the necessary capabilities to handle their roles. Eventually, a lack of knowledge will become evident, especially for an employee who was hired through a reference.
I would appreciate your thoughts on how to address this issue with the appropriate individuals who can take action. Currently, my reach is limited to the talent acquisition team of the organization.
Regards,
AB
From India, Moradabad
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Some BPOs don't take the verification process seriously.
Had I been in your case, I would have sent an anonymous letter or email to the concerned authorities if there was something bothering me.
From India, Delhi
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Had I been in your case, I would have sent an anonymous letter or email to the concerned authorities if there was something bothering me.
From India, Delhi
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Yes. You should inform the concern authorities. Am wondering - Why is world so much filled with fake things now a days?
From India, Mumbai
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From India, Mumbai
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Greetings,
Please email the HR Team at the organization and cc the recruitment head. Mention the documents that are yours and claim their validity, with supporting evidence. Provide them with your contact number and details so they can reach you. Taking action now is crucial to avoid being implicated as an accomplice to any potential scam later.
From India, Mumbai
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Please email the HR Team at the organization and cc the recruitment head. Mention the documents that are yours and claim their validity, with supporting evidence. Provide them with your contact number and details so they can reach you. Taking action now is crucial to avoid being implicated as an accomplice to any potential scam later.
From India, Mumbai
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Subject: Re: My original documents submitted by someone else as fake docs to employer
I seriously don't understand how a colleague (someone working for the same employer/company) could use your original documents.
- How did you discover that someone had used/submitted your original documents?
- Where are your original documents now and how did this individual obtain them?
- Is it really so easy for a colleague to use your original documents?
- Are the details on the documents/certificates, such as name, father's name, roll number, and others, similar to your own details?
Please answer the above questions as they are crucial in understanding how a colleague could use these documents with the same employer. It appears that your HR department has failed to uncover the truth.
Using or presenting fake documents belonging to someone else for any purpose is a serious offense. It must be reported immediately to the HR Manager/Head and the nearest police station with supporting witnesses and evidence.
However, before taking further action, it is important to address the questions raised above.
I am awaiting your responses and updates on this matter.
From India, Gurgaon
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I seriously don't understand how a colleague (someone working for the same employer/company) could use your original documents.
- How did you discover that someone had used/submitted your original documents?
- Where are your original documents now and how did this individual obtain them?
- Is it really so easy for a colleague to use your original documents?
- Are the details on the documents/certificates, such as name, father's name, roll number, and others, similar to your own details?
Please answer the above questions as they are crucial in understanding how a colleague could use these documents with the same employer. It appears that your HR department has failed to uncover the truth.
Using or presenting fake documents belonging to someone else for any purpose is a serious offense. It must be reported immediately to the HR Manager/Head and the nearest police station with supporting witnesses and evidence.
However, before taking further action, it is important to address the questions raised above.
I am awaiting your responses and updates on this matter.
From India, Gurgaon
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Hello AB,
Anil Arora has mentioned the very clear gaps in what you posted.
Unless these aspects are cleared, any action you initiate based on the half-informed suggestion(s) given to you by the members could land you into more trouble.
There's another glaring gap in what you mentioned. It shouldn't take any sort of educational verification to figure this out. Both you and the other employee are employees of the same company. Even if the company strength is high, HR usually has in-built mechanisms to check duplicate names, with photo IDs being just one of them. Since this doesn't seem to have been noticed or ignored by your HR, maybe this points to the possibility of complicity of your HR? If yes, then you need to tread very cautiously. Like (Cite Contribution) suggested, first put things in writing--and mark a copy to the Head of Recruitment and HR.
Also, indicate to your HR Head that you are planning to lodge a criminal complaint with the Police--usually such indication should suffice to correct the situation. But in the worst-case scenario [of complicity of HR], please be prepared to go to the Police.
All the best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Anil Arora has mentioned the very clear gaps in what you posted.
Unless these aspects are cleared, any action you initiate based on the half-informed suggestion(s) given to you by the members could land you into more trouble.
There's another glaring gap in what you mentioned. It shouldn't take any sort of educational verification to figure this out. Both you and the other employee are employees of the same company. Even if the company strength is high, HR usually has in-built mechanisms to check duplicate names, with photo IDs being just one of them. Since this doesn't seem to have been noticed or ignored by your HR, maybe this points to the possibility of complicity of your HR? If yes, then you need to tread very cautiously. Like (Cite Contribution) suggested, first put things in writing--and mark a copy to the Head of Recruitment and HR.
Also, indicate to your HR Head that you are planning to lodge a criminal complaint with the Police--usually such indication should suffice to correct the situation. But in the worst-case scenario [of complicity of HR], please be prepared to go to the Police.
All the best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear,
The talent hunting recruitment procedure is not like the Govt Departments.
To get clarity, first of all, you have to understand the difference between Certificate and Knowledge and Education and Book.
A book is just a medium by which knowledge can be gained easily.
A certificate is a piece of document bearing the points you have scored in an exam; an educational certificate is enough to define your competency.
Education is a lifelong procedure, and every platform of life is a step of education, whether inside a classroom or under the open sky.
Knowledge develops with experience, whether good experience or bad experience; both are required to polish knowledge. One can gain knowledge without sitting in a classroom and without taking a reference of a book. And for that kind of individual, his competency is his certificate.
Okay, let's come to the actual point.
Earlier, some organizations mentioned the sentence that if found fake will be penalized. Because taking a reference of a certificate during appointment not only indicates the educational proof of a candidate but also a good identity and residential and age proof, those are required for appointment. So, the meaning of verifying a certificate may be different.
No organization recruits a candidate with reference to his educational certificates only. If the candidate is capable of giving such output that the organization expects, the candidate can be recruited. There is no value of a certificate if the candidate is not efficient according to the requirement of the organization.
And about penalties and punishment or termination, all depend on the management. If an employee is productive, no organization wants to let go.
And about recommendations. Recommending is not bad if the candidate actually deserves the position and salary. If the candidate does not deserve and gets the position, he himself cannot continue for a long period.
From India
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The talent hunting recruitment procedure is not like the Govt Departments.
To get clarity, first of all, you have to understand the difference between Certificate and Knowledge and Education and Book.
A book is just a medium by which knowledge can be gained easily.
A certificate is a piece of document bearing the points you have scored in an exam; an educational certificate is enough to define your competency.
Education is a lifelong procedure, and every platform of life is a step of education, whether inside a classroom or under the open sky.
Knowledge develops with experience, whether good experience or bad experience; both are required to polish knowledge. One can gain knowledge without sitting in a classroom and without taking a reference of a book. And for that kind of individual, his competency is his certificate.
Okay, let's come to the actual point.
Earlier, some organizations mentioned the sentence that if found fake will be penalized. Because taking a reference of a certificate during appointment not only indicates the educational proof of a candidate but also a good identity and residential and age proof, those are required for appointment. So, the meaning of verifying a certificate may be different.
No organization recruits a candidate with reference to his educational certificates only. If the candidate is capable of giving such output that the organization expects, the candidate can be recruited. There is no value of a certificate if the candidate is not efficient according to the requirement of the organization.
And about penalties and punishment or termination, all depend on the management. If an employee is productive, no organization wants to let go.
And about recommendations. Recommending is not bad if the candidate actually deserves the position and salary. If the candidate does not deserve and gets the position, he himself cannot continue for a long period.
From India
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Another thing, Mr. AB,
You should take care of your property. It is your responsibility. If someone else is using it, you are also responsible to some extent.
Discuss with them properly first. If not getting any solution, inform the respective HR. If still not getting a solution, you can take legal action as a last resort. But, be careful, legal action should be based on proper evidence and witnesses.
From India
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You should take care of your property. It is your responsibility. If someone else is using it, you are also responsible to some extent.
Discuss with them properly first. If not getting any solution, inform the respective HR. If still not getting a solution, you can take legal action as a last resort. But, be careful, legal action should be based on proper evidence and witnesses.
From India
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in my openion mr ab’s problem is not genuine .. it is not possible? certificates being shared in a same company. if for instance it is true then you both are aware of this from very first day
From India, Kapurthala
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