Hi Simhan Sir,
The idea of going to pubs and clubs is not widely accepted, Sir. When individuals have their own values, they choose not to engage in such activities, Sir. Applying this theory to all girls may be biased, I believe. There are girls who respect our culture and traditions, Sir. Additionally, there are women who treat daughters-in-law as their own daughters, Sir. I think generalizing a set of people who engage in irresponsible behavior and accusing the entire South Indian population is unfair, Sir.
If my response has caused any offense, I apologize, Sir.
From India, Coimbatore
The idea of going to pubs and clubs is not widely accepted, Sir. When individuals have their own values, they choose not to engage in such activities, Sir. Applying this theory to all girls may be biased, I believe. There are girls who respect our culture and traditions, Sir. Additionally, there are women who treat daughters-in-law as their own daughters, Sir. I think generalizing a set of people who engage in irresponsible behavior and accusing the entire South Indian population is unfair, Sir.
If my response has caused any offense, I apologize, Sir.
From India, Coimbatore
Dear Dhaarani,
For a start, I am not generalizing. Please do not get hurt. I have nephews and nieces who are housebound. I also know people who treat their daughters-in-law like their own daughters. There are exceptions. When compared to what girls wore in the 50s and 60s, more girls wear North Indian dresses in the South. I am sure it is not forced on them by the parents, but the fashion has changed. Similarly, more girls and boys go to pubs and clubs and have boy/girl friends than used to be 40 or 50 years ago; it's all part of changes in society and not forced by parents.
I am not hurt at all by your comments. I live in the UK, and we have never forced anything on our children.
From United Kingdom
For a start, I am not generalizing. Please do not get hurt. I have nephews and nieces who are housebound. I also know people who treat their daughters-in-law like their own daughters. There are exceptions. When compared to what girls wore in the 50s and 60s, more girls wear North Indian dresses in the South. I am sure it is not forced on them by the parents, but the fashion has changed. Similarly, more girls and boys go to pubs and clubs and have boy/girl friends than used to be 40 or 50 years ago; it's all part of changes in society and not forced by parents.
I am not hurt at all by your comments. I live in the UK, and we have never forced anything on our children.
From United Kingdom
Hi Sir,
I accept that you are right about having boyfriends and girlfriends, sir. However, the generation is changing, you know, sir. It depends on individuals and may vary, sir. I have seen many people going to pubs and all, sir. They have deteriorated themselves in the name of fashion, education, professionalism, and all, sir.
Even I can't accept the fact that only a person who goes to pubs and wears non-suitable dresses is modern or cultured. It depends on the thoughts and deeds of individuals, but people fail to realize what we have been taught for ages, sir.
From India, Coimbatore
I accept that you are right about having boyfriends and girlfriends, sir. However, the generation is changing, you know, sir. It depends on individuals and may vary, sir. I have seen many people going to pubs and all, sir. They have deteriorated themselves in the name of fashion, education, professionalism, and all, sir.
Even I can't accept the fact that only a person who goes to pubs and wears non-suitable dresses is modern or cultured. It depends on the thoughts and deeds of individuals, but people fail to realize what we have been taught for ages, sir.
From India, Coimbatore
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Dear Mr. Nashbramhall,
Sorry, but I would appreciate it if you could keep religion and region out of the discussion. This issue is prevalent in all societies and countries, whether they are Christian, Muslim, or Hindu-speaking countries. Please remember that it is the basic duty of all parents to ensure that their children are not burdens on society. While no parent forces their children to do bad things, some fail to prevent them from doing so. Parents are responsible for their children's upbringing.
Furthermore, society comprises all of us who reside within it. Therefore, the values we instill in ourselves, whether as daughters, mothers, or mothers-in-law, will always stay with us. If we have not been properly guided, negative occurrences are likely to happen. There is undoubtedly something wrong occurring that is significantly impacting our Indian society. We must all strive to prevent such evils instead of blaming others, mocking religions, or regions.
Regards,
Anita
From India, Mumbai
Sorry, but I would appreciate it if you could keep religion and region out of the discussion. This issue is prevalent in all societies and countries, whether they are Christian, Muslim, or Hindu-speaking countries. Please remember that it is the basic duty of all parents to ensure that their children are not burdens on society. While no parent forces their children to do bad things, some fail to prevent them from doing so. Parents are responsible for their children's upbringing.
Furthermore, society comprises all of us who reside within it. Therefore, the values we instill in ourselves, whether as daughters, mothers, or mothers-in-law, will always stay with us. If we have not been properly guided, negative occurrences are likely to happen. There is undoubtedly something wrong occurring that is significantly impacting our Indian society. We must all strive to prevent such evils instead of blaming others, mocking religions, or regions.
Regards,
Anita
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Anita,
Thanks for the message. You have got the wrong end of the stick, as the saying goes. By providing a link to the rape statistics, I have implied that it is not exclusive to any religion or region. I have solely responded to Dhaarani's beliefs. Coming from the South and witnessing changes since I moved from India to the UK in the 60s, I have used that as an example. I have not mentioned anything about any religion. In fact, I have stated that no religion condones hurting others, etc.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could send me a private message with examples of where I have made any comments about a specific religion or region. This will prevent us from going off on a tangent in the public forum.
From United Kingdom
Thanks for the message. You have got the wrong end of the stick, as the saying goes. By providing a link to the rape statistics, I have implied that it is not exclusive to any religion or region. I have solely responded to Dhaarani's beliefs. Coming from the South and witnessing changes since I moved from India to the UK in the 60s, I have used that as an example. I have not mentioned anything about any religion. In fact, I have stated that no religion condones hurting others, etc.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could send me a private message with examples of where I have made any comments about a specific religion or region. This will prevent us from going off on a tangent in the public forum.
From United Kingdom
As a person who initiated discussions on this important topic, I want my friends here not to become emotional while conveying their points. I do not find anything wrong in Shri Simhan's comments.
In this regard, I humbly suggest my friends here to please log on to my site R.Ganesh | NLP Trainer | Counselor | Hypnotherapist | Reiki Healer | Life Improvement Mind Engineering and read my articles pertaining to the same subject. I have come out with plausible reasons as to how children gain sexual experience. As a Counselor and Clinical Hypnotherapist, I am very much worried about the conduct of our children who lean towards Western culture. This morning, I received a call from a Sub Inspector of Police (who was trained by me when he was a grade I constable) referring to a case of a minor girl who ran away with a minor boy. After frantically searching for 17 days, the police found them in Ernakulam, Kerala. I am going to talk to that girl this coming Friday. Only last month, I counseled a girl who ran away with her female teacher to Pondicherry where she stayed with her for 10 days. The same police Sub Inspector referred that girl to me. Since it concerns girls, I am, as a part of my professional ethics, not revealing the details. And... Simhan Sir, both the girls belong to a religion that denies rights to women.
I am very thankful to all my friends who contribute valuable comments to this discussion. I object to the opinion of some that this topic should not be discussed here in citeHR, as there is a domain in this site for General Discussion and Daily Life. HR professionals do have families and children, and when they don't have a peaceful family, then it will have a telling effect on their professional performance.
With warm and humble regards,
Ganesh Ramachandran
Founder - LIME
From India, Tiruppur
In this regard, I humbly suggest my friends here to please log on to my site R.Ganesh | NLP Trainer | Counselor | Hypnotherapist | Reiki Healer | Life Improvement Mind Engineering and read my articles pertaining to the same subject. I have come out with plausible reasons as to how children gain sexual experience. As a Counselor and Clinical Hypnotherapist, I am very much worried about the conduct of our children who lean towards Western culture. This morning, I received a call from a Sub Inspector of Police (who was trained by me when he was a grade I constable) referring to a case of a minor girl who ran away with a minor boy. After frantically searching for 17 days, the police found them in Ernakulam, Kerala. I am going to talk to that girl this coming Friday. Only last month, I counseled a girl who ran away with her female teacher to Pondicherry where she stayed with her for 10 days. The same police Sub Inspector referred that girl to me. Since it concerns girls, I am, as a part of my professional ethics, not revealing the details. And... Simhan Sir, both the girls belong to a religion that denies rights to women.
I am very thankful to all my friends who contribute valuable comments to this discussion. I object to the opinion of some that this topic should not be discussed here in citeHR, as there is a domain in this site for General Discussion and Daily Life. HR professionals do have families and children, and when they don't have a peaceful family, then it will have a telling effect on their professional performance.
With warm and humble regards,
Ganesh Ramachandran
Founder - LIME
From India, Tiruppur
50% problem is with law enforcing,25% with toothless law, rest lies with prosecution/judicial process. VARGHESE MATHEW
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
All human beings are adapted to existing environments. The majority of the human mind has an involuntary fear of punishment against illegal acts. As of today, nothing happens to criminals, decoits, terrorists, black money holders, rapists, and factionists. Self-disciplined individuals, besides those with self-esteem, are mere witnesses. When a criminal group is seen associating with white-collar individuals, it is evident that the rest will be tempted to follow the same path. If punishment/legal action is set as a lifelong torturous example, no one will dare to repeat the crime. Hanging is not adequate as it gets erased; amputating the hands and leaving the individual free in society as a living example to others would ensure such crimes are not repeated. The majority of criminals have a political/bureaucratic background, which is why the cases are often diluted. This is the biggest flaw. Huge amounts are being bribed, and cases are being perverted. The problem is simple, but the government remains inert.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Would like to share something really good I read:
This is a letter from a mother to her son -
I share with you this letter to my son.
1. To be ‘loving’ is to be ‘loveable’ – it is possible to be both strong and tender at the same time.
Your masculine energy has been given to you to protect others and support them – don’t ever be a bully, but do defend yourself.
2. Play sport, be fit, eat well and live a wholesome life – you don’t yet know but you have only been given ‘one’ body – don’t abuse it, you don’t get to trade it in when you wear it out.
3. You set the tone in intimate relationships. Support and nurture the feminine energy around you. Like Yin and Yang, relationships need the strength of the masculine and the softness of the feminine.
4. Allow yourself to trust in all relationships – don’t fear being hurt or hold yourself back because of this fear. Fully express yourself; be the man you know yourself to be, and if it does not work out it's okay.... it is better to be yourself and be loved for that, than hide in a relationship and ignore your true self.
5. Don’t fear being alone. 'Like' yourself, know in your heart you are a good man – people are attracted to those who have self-belief.
6. See the light side of everything – don’t take yourself too seriously. Life is a long, hard road if you are not having fun along the way. Set goals and celebrate your successes.
7. Find what you have been put on the planet to do, how you can make a difference to others – Ask your self daily "how will I leave the planet a better place than when I arrived?"
8. Treat every woman kindly – and treat her equally. Women can do everything you can do – they just might do it differently.
9. Simply remember that life is a journey – every day counts and...be grateful for what you have
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Esply Pt 8... Great share...
From India, Mumbai
This is a letter from a mother to her son -
I share with you this letter to my son.
1. To be ‘loving’ is to be ‘loveable’ – it is possible to be both strong and tender at the same time.
Your masculine energy has been given to you to protect others and support them – don’t ever be a bully, but do defend yourself.
2. Play sport, be fit, eat well and live a wholesome life – you don’t yet know but you have only been given ‘one’ body – don’t abuse it, you don’t get to trade it in when you wear it out.
3. You set the tone in intimate relationships. Support and nurture the feminine energy around you. Like Yin and Yang, relationships need the strength of the masculine and the softness of the feminine.
4. Allow yourself to trust in all relationships – don’t fear being hurt or hold yourself back because of this fear. Fully express yourself; be the man you know yourself to be, and if it does not work out it's okay.... it is better to be yourself and be loved for that, than hide in a relationship and ignore your true self.
5. Don’t fear being alone. 'Like' yourself, know in your heart you are a good man – people are attracted to those who have self-belief.
6. See the light side of everything – don’t take yourself too seriously. Life is a long, hard road if you are not having fun along the way. Set goals and celebrate your successes.
7. Find what you have been put on the planet to do, how you can make a difference to others – Ask your self daily "how will I leave the planet a better place than when I arrived?"
8. Treat every woman kindly – and treat her equally. Women can do everything you can do – they just might do it differently.
9. Simply remember that life is a journey – every day counts and...be grateful for what you have
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Esply Pt 8... Great share...
From India, Mumbai
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