Can Production department work under Supply Chain? or it must be a separate department?
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Dear Saad Masood,
Supply Chain Management is an end-to-end process. We need to connect suppliers' suppliers to the customers. The chain is as follows:
Supplier's supplier -> supplier -> procurement -> production -> warehouse -> Distributors or dealers (if any) -> Customer or end user.
Having the production manager report to the Head of SCM is a novel concept. I don't find anything wrong with that. In fact, it would bring seamlessness to the operations. The Head of SCM will be able to identify delays in operations and inventory blockages in every process or sub-process.
On the flip side, you need to have a Head of SCM who knows the operations very well. Secondly, they must be proficient in mathematical and statistical methods. Thirdly, overall, they need to be a mature person. Otherwise, this model may also fail.
I request you to raise this query in another networking forum, World's Largest Professional Network | LinkedIn. In this group, there are several forums like "Supply Chain Today," "Procurement Professionals," "SCM Experts," etc. You will receive replies from SCM experts.
Ok...
Dinesh V Divekar
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Supply Chain Management is an end-to-end process. We need to connect suppliers' suppliers to the customers. The chain is as follows:
Supplier's supplier -> supplier -> procurement -> production -> warehouse -> Distributors or dealers (if any) -> Customer or end user.
Having the production manager report to the Head of SCM is a novel concept. I don't find anything wrong with that. In fact, it would bring seamlessness to the operations. The Head of SCM will be able to identify delays in operations and inventory blockages in every process or sub-process.
On the flip side, you need to have a Head of SCM who knows the operations very well. Secondly, they must be proficient in mathematical and statistical methods. Thirdly, overall, they need to be a mature person. Otherwise, this model may also fail.
I request you to raise this query in another networking forum, World's Largest Professional Network | LinkedIn. In this group, there are several forums like "Supply Chain Today," "Procurement Professionals," "SCM Experts," etc. You will receive replies from SCM experts.
Ok...
Dinesh V Divekar
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.
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Never come across such reporting of production under Supply chain. what Divekar told above sounds good idea. Pon
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Dear Saad,
Dinesh has given you an excellent response. May I know what prompted you to raise this question? Do you have a Supply Chain Manager in your organisation? Is he or she senior in rank compared to the Operations Manager? Without knowing your organisation structure, it is difficult to give you a concrete answer.
Kindly take a look at OPERATIONS DIRECTOR / SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGER JOB VACANCY found at Executive Jobs, Management Jobs & Executive Recruitment.
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Dinesh has given you an excellent response. May I know what prompted you to raise this question? Do you have a Supply Chain Manager in your organisation? Is he or she senior in rank compared to the Operations Manager? Without knowing your organisation structure, it is difficult to give you a concrete answer.
Kindly take a look at OPERATIONS DIRECTOR / SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGER JOB VACANCY found at Executive Jobs, Management Jobs & Executive Recruitment.
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Dear Rajesh,
There are two issues in your post: one is your choice of words, and the second is your viewpoint.
If you read correctly, you will find that Mr. Simhan has not given any advice as such. Rather, he has asked clarifying questions and provided a few links. Therefore, you could have been a little less haughty while giving this post.
Regarding your viewpoint, I also did not see Production reporting to the Head of SCM. However, this is where innovation comes in. If we continue to do what we did in the past, then one could argue that we have not matured. When we assess the industry, we see that production processes have improved significantly.
A true supply chain requires the study of every process and identifying ways to reduce cycle time and inventory blockages at any stage, whether it's the inventory of raw materials or finished goods.
Additionally, you wrote, "[What will happens if SCM head pressurizes and Production head will give an excuse that production is done but will take 15 days for quality check]." Depending on the industry and product type, if it takes 15 days for a quality check post-production, it may indicate that the company's production processes are still developing. Many SCM experts believe that, with few exceptions, India lags behind in SCM. We still have vendors rather than suppliers. In this context, the example you provided is suitable for a run-of-the-mill company.
In my previous post, I mentioned that for this model to be adopted, the Head of SCM must show a lot of maturity. Furthermore, if this model were to be implemented, the organization itself should be mature enough. Companies with production processes stuck in the 20th century may struggle to adopt this model.
The world has progressed significantly. Buyers now expect their suppliers to commit to uninterrupted production. The automotive industry has demonstrated how SCM can evolve. So why not adopt this model?
Lastly, why shouldn't we strive to be pioneers in new approaches? Why always follow the practices of others? Why not try to serve our customers better and stay competitive? Dismissing ideas without evaluation—how justifiable is that?
Last year, the Economic Times published a lengthy article about Wipro Technologies. This tech giant embraced the Toyota Production System (TPS) for software development. While software engineers initially hesitated to adopt manufacturing methods, Wipro challenged industry norms and gained a first-mover advantage. Who is benefiting now? Wipro, not those who doubted innovative practices!
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
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There are two issues in your post: one is your choice of words, and the second is your viewpoint.
If you read correctly, you will find that Mr. Simhan has not given any advice as such. Rather, he has asked clarifying questions and provided a few links. Therefore, you could have been a little less haughty while giving this post.
Regarding your viewpoint, I also did not see Production reporting to the Head of SCM. However, this is where innovation comes in. If we continue to do what we did in the past, then one could argue that we have not matured. When we assess the industry, we see that production processes have improved significantly.
A true supply chain requires the study of every process and identifying ways to reduce cycle time and inventory blockages at any stage, whether it's the inventory of raw materials or finished goods.
Additionally, you wrote, "[What will happens if SCM head pressurizes and Production head will give an excuse that production is done but will take 15 days for quality check]." Depending on the industry and product type, if it takes 15 days for a quality check post-production, it may indicate that the company's production processes are still developing. Many SCM experts believe that, with few exceptions, India lags behind in SCM. We still have vendors rather than suppliers. In this context, the example you provided is suitable for a run-of-the-mill company.
In my previous post, I mentioned that for this model to be adopted, the Head of SCM must show a lot of maturity. Furthermore, if this model were to be implemented, the organization itself should be mature enough. Companies with production processes stuck in the 20th century may struggle to adopt this model.
The world has progressed significantly. Buyers now expect their suppliers to commit to uninterrupted production. The automotive industry has demonstrated how SCM can evolve. So why not adopt this model?
Lastly, why shouldn't we strive to be pioneers in new approaches? Why always follow the practices of others? Why not try to serve our customers better and stay competitive? Dismissing ideas without evaluation—how justifiable is that?
Last year, the Economic Times published a lengthy article about Wipro Technologies. This tech giant embraced the Toyota Production System (TPS) for software development. While software engineers initially hesitated to adopt manufacturing methods, Wipro challenged industry norms and gained a first-mover advantage. Who is benefiting now? Wipro, not those who doubted innovative practices!
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
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Dear Nashbramhall,
Actually, I'm designing an organizational structure for a company that specializes in Bakery Products. They have a production department, or rather, an entire factory dedicated to the production of bakery items. Currently, they only have a production manager. That is why I was inquiring about the roles of SCM and Production.
As far as my understanding goes, under the Supply Chain Department, there are the following divisions: Procurement, Storage, Warehousing, Distribution, and Retail. What would you suggest in this scenario?
Please advise.
Thank you.
From Pakistan, Lahore
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Actually, I'm designing an organizational structure for a company that specializes in Bakery Products. They have a production department, or rather, an entire factory dedicated to the production of bakery items. Currently, they only have a production manager. That is why I was inquiring about the roles of SCM and Production.
As far as my understanding goes, under the Supply Chain Department, there are the following divisions: Procurement, Storage, Warehousing, Distribution, and Retail. What would you suggest in this scenario?
Please advise.
Thank you.
From Pakistan, Lahore
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Thank you, Saad, for clarifying the situation. As shown in the link given in my previous post, it's quite acceptable to do what you intend to do. As you are creating a new position which is higher than the present Operations manager, you should write the job specification accordingly. I hope the new position that you create is such that the person holding it reports directly to the CEO.
I hope people understand the need for giving all the information at the outset from following this thread.
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I hope people understand the need for giving all the information at the outset from following this thread.
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