Dear All ... Can we have a discussion on Incident Investigation? Can anyone come up with a definition to this? What all points we must cover under Incident Investigation?
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Hello Dipil, Attached presentation that outlines a definition and aspects of the investigation process Regards
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Really, a very useful information is contained in this PowerPoint presentation. It will help us greatly in investigating and analyzing accidents, and we can also draw conclusions to prevent the same.
Thank you once again.
Arindam Ray
Asst. Manager P&A
GTZ (India) Pvt. Ltd.
From India, Calcutta
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Thank you once again.
Arindam Ray
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GTZ (India) Pvt. Ltd.
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Hi Ronald Mackenzie,
The presentation is very good... No doubt...
But I am a little disagree with a few points:
Your presentation says that we should include the names of the following in the report:
1. Injured worker/s or worker/s involved name/s
2. Name of Supervisor and Department
But, as far as I am concerned, we can give names of the persons involved in the incident in the preliminary report of the same... No need for any personnel names in the detailed Incident Investigation Report... By giving names, this may divert the entire purpose of an investigation... By giving a name, all will blame directly one person... This must not be the purpose of an investigation...
Finding out the key factors which lead to an incident and elimination of those to avoid recurrence must be the purpose of the investigation... Blaming anyone must not be the purpose...
A lot of things are missing in the presentation like who must investigate, how to investigate, which tool to be used for investigation, etc... However, overall the presentation gives a brief idea about investigation...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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The presentation is very good... No doubt...
But I am a little disagree with a few points:
Your presentation says that we should include the names of the following in the report:
1. Injured worker/s or worker/s involved name/s
2. Name of Supervisor and Department
But, as far as I am concerned, we can give names of the persons involved in the incident in the preliminary report of the same... No need for any personnel names in the detailed Incident Investigation Report... By giving names, this may divert the entire purpose of an investigation... By giving a name, all will blame directly one person... This must not be the purpose of an investigation...
Finding out the key factors which lead to an incident and elimination of those to avoid recurrence must be the purpose of the investigation... Blaming anyone must not be the purpose...
A lot of things are missing in the presentation like who must investigate, how to investigate, which tool to be used for investigation, etc... However, overall the presentation gives a brief idea about investigation...
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear All,
The definition of Investigation is as follows: An investigation is a methodical, systematic, unemotional undertaking to collect and interpret information about an event to establish the extent of an injury or loss, why it happened, and to analyze the process involved to minimize the risk or prevent a recurrence. The investigation will normally result in the preparation of a logical, sequential report of the events with recommended preventive strategies.
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Dipil Kumar V
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The definition of Investigation is as follows: An investigation is a methodical, systematic, unemotional undertaking to collect and interpret information about an event to establish the extent of an injury or loss, why it happened, and to analyze the process involved to minimize the risk or prevent a recurrence. The investigation will normally result in the preparation of a logical, sequential report of the events with recommended preventive strategies.
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Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear All,
It was an informative presentation on Incident Investigation. I conduct Accident/Investigation management training in Malaysia. The key point is the analysis of the findings to determine the root cause (normally a failure in management systems) and come up with solutions to prevent their recurrence. It is also important to ensure weaknesses in the system have been rectified so that similar or other incidents do not occur again.
I am attaching a presentation that I use for my training. I hope it will be helpful.
Thank you.
From Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
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Dear All,
It was an informative presentation on Incident Investigation. I conduct Accident/Investigation management training in Malaysia. The key point is the analysis of the findings to determine the root cause (normally a failure in management systems) and come up with solutions to prevent their recurrence. It is also important to ensure weaknesses in the system have been rectified so that similar or other incidents do not occur again.
I am attaching a presentation that I use for my training. I hope it will be helpful.
Thank you.
From Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
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Dear all,
Very rarely does one find such a beautiful presentation and a relevant discussion with an excellent PowerPoint. My compliments to everyone for bringing an interesting topic to the forum.
I would like to share a perspective on the subject of incident investigation. As an Industrial Security Consultant with ten years of experience in the field, we often encounter incidents related to theft, pilferage, missing movable assets, and information security breaches. These issues are part of HR management.
We conduct thorough investigations into each incident, regardless of the outcome, which can range from one day to one month depending on the nature of the incident. The process involves a detailed study of the people, profiles, and systems within the organization connected to the incident. This exercise serves as an eye-opener for the organization, helping to reduce risks in protecting human capital and preventing potential security threats that could lead to property loss or misappropriation of funds.
If there is interest on this platform, I can share more insights.
Thanks,
V. Rangarajan
From India, Pune
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Very rarely does one find such a beautiful presentation and a relevant discussion with an excellent PowerPoint. My compliments to everyone for bringing an interesting topic to the forum.
I would like to share a perspective on the subject of incident investigation. As an Industrial Security Consultant with ten years of experience in the field, we often encounter incidents related to theft, pilferage, missing movable assets, and information security breaches. These issues are part of HR management.
We conduct thorough investigations into each incident, regardless of the outcome, which can range from one day to one month depending on the nature of the incident. The process involves a detailed study of the people, profiles, and systems within the organization connected to the incident. This exercise serves as an eye-opener for the organization, helping to reduce risks in protecting human capital and preventing potential security threats that could lead to property loss or misappropriation of funds.
If there is interest on this platform, I can share more insights.
Thanks,
V. Rangarajan
From India, Pune
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Dear All,
Thanks for the active participation in the discussion. Let us now select a specific subject under Incident Investigation. We will change the same and delve deeper as and when time allows and if all are interested.
As per your opinion, which is the best proven tool for Incident Investigation?
@ Gopinadhan Pillai...
The presentation is very good, a nice and knowledgeable one. Thanks for sharing.
@ V. Rangarajan...
We are here only because of the interest in discussion and thereby gaining knowledge. So, we request you to come up with your views and good postings.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Thanks for the active participation in the discussion. Let us now select a specific subject under Incident Investigation. We will change the same and delve deeper as and when time allows and if all are interested.
As per your opinion, which is the best proven tool for Incident Investigation?
@ Gopinadhan Pillai...
The presentation is very good, a nice and knowledgeable one. Thanks for sharing.
@ V. Rangarajan...
We are here only because of the interest in discussion and thereby gaining knowledge. So, we request you to come up with your views and good postings.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Friends,
ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION …
CHARLIE’S ACCIDENT
Charlie had an emotional argument with his wife and proceeds to the local bar where he consumes several drinks. He departs the bar in his car at high speed. Minutes later, he loses control on the highway and is fatally injured. We know what happened; we must now determine ‘WHY’ it happened.
The investigation team is comprised of six specialists, each of whom has completely different perspective on the root safety deficiency.
1. Sociologist
2. Enforcement Officer from Liquor Control Board.
3. Pathologist.
4. High way Engineer
5. Automobile Engineer
6. Policeman.
The sociologist identifies a breakdown in interpersonal communication within the marriage. An enforcement officer from the Liquor Control Board notes the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages by the bar on a “two for one” basis. The pathologist determines that Charlie’s blood alcohol was in excess of legal limit. The highway engineer finds inadequate road banking and protective barriers for the posted speed. An automotive engineer determines that Charlie’s car had a loose front end and bald tires; the policeman determines that the automobile was traveling at excessive speed for the prevailing conditions.
Each of the deficiencies may result in a different definition of the underlying hazard.
Your final report with recommendtion to avoid recurrence please….
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION …
CHARLIE’S ACCIDENT
Charlie had an emotional argument with his wife and proceeds to the local bar where he consumes several drinks. He departs the bar in his car at high speed. Minutes later, he loses control on the highway and is fatally injured. We know what happened; we must now determine ‘WHY’ it happened.
The investigation team is comprised of six specialists, each of whom has completely different perspective on the root safety deficiency.
1. Sociologist
2. Enforcement Officer from Liquor Control Board.
3. Pathologist.
4. High way Engineer
5. Automobile Engineer
6. Policeman.
The sociologist identifies a breakdown in interpersonal communication within the marriage. An enforcement officer from the Liquor Control Board notes the illegal sale of alcoholic beverages by the bar on a “two for one” basis. The pathologist determines that Charlie’s blood alcohol was in excess of legal limit. The highway engineer finds inadequate road banking and protective barriers for the posted speed. An automotive engineer determines that Charlie’s car had a loose front end and bald tires; the policeman determines that the automobile was traveling at excessive speed for the prevailing conditions.
Each of the deficiencies may result in a different definition of the underlying hazard.
Your final report with recommendtion to avoid recurrence please….
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear All,
Among the team selected for investigating any incident, one should at least have the knowledge of Root Cause Failure Analysis. Recommendations should contain corrective as well as preventive actions. Furthermore, communication of the investigation findings along with these recommendations is a major part of the investigation process. Lastly, but most importantly, the follow-up is a crucial part of the process.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Among the team selected for investigating any incident, one should at least have the knowledge of Root Cause Failure Analysis. Recommendations should contain corrective as well as preventive actions. Furthermore, communication of the investigation findings along with these recommendations is a major part of the investigation process. Lastly, but most importantly, the follow-up is a crucial part of the process.
With regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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