hi i am an engineer working with an MNC since 2 years , i had a bond of 9 mths with the company as I underwent a training , which is about to end in july 2014
i have got an opportunity elsewhere and have put down my papers on the medical grounds.(have resigned a few days back)
however somehow my manager has got to know that I have got an opportunity and they are not reliving me .
they are asking me to complete the 9 months period and then leave which is in next july.
however the bond signed has got a clause that the employee if found terminating the bond will be liable to the amount mentioned in the payment schedule .
the payment schedule is the prorata basis which counts to be something around 70 k
i am fine with it .however the manager is not reliving me .
after 2 days of my resignation , the HR called saying that “are you aware that u are breaking the bond and that you will have to bear the compensation” ..i said yes and i agreed to it .
when i reached the office , i went to the HR to submit my medical cert issued by doc as asked by my manger .
however the HR said , my manager and he will talk to me in some time ..
it was EOD and still no one approached..
can anyone please suggest me how to proceed with this .
will i get a clean exit on the medical terms?
does the management have rights to hold me back when i am proving that my health is in a bad state ?
will my exp letter have any negative remark? (my performance in the company has been above average throughout and had no issue with anybody )
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i have got an opportunity elsewhere and have put down my papers on the medical grounds.(have resigned a few days back)
however somehow my manager has got to know that I have got an opportunity and they are not reliving me .
they are asking me to complete the 9 months period and then leave which is in next july.
however the bond signed has got a clause that the employee if found terminating the bond will be liable to the amount mentioned in the payment schedule .
the payment schedule is the prorata basis which counts to be something around 70 k
i am fine with it .however the manager is not reliving me .
after 2 days of my resignation , the HR called saying that “are you aware that u are breaking the bond and that you will have to bear the compensation” ..i said yes and i agreed to it .
when i reached the office , i went to the HR to submit my medical cert issued by doc as asked by my manger .
however the HR said , my manager and he will talk to me in some time ..
it was EOD and still no one approached..
can anyone please suggest me how to proceed with this .
will i get a clean exit on the medical terms?
does the management have rights to hold me back when i am proving that my health is in a bad state ?
will my exp letter have any negative remark? (my performance in the company has been above average throughout and had no issue with anybody )
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I saw the headline yesterday and thought someone will respond. It takes time.
I am rather surprised at the request you are making. In India, it's not difficult to get BOGUS certificates of any kind, including medical. Your post clearly indicates that the medical grounds are only a pretext to resign. Please let us know whether you would have resigned had you not got another opportunity.
Also, kindly click on the links in the sidebar at the right about Breaking Bond, which has been covered in the past.
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1708I am rather surprised at the request you are making. In India, it's not difficult to get BOGUS certificates of any kind, including medical. Your post clearly indicates that the medical grounds are only a pretext to resign. Please let us know whether you would have resigned had you not got another opportunity.
Also, kindly click on the links in the sidebar at the right about Breaking Bond, which has been covered in the past.
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Hi Nash,
Thank you for responding. I would like to clarify that I have recently received an opportunity at XYZ Company and have already resigned last week. I am currently serving the one-month notice period. However, I am leaving on medical grounds because I am undergoing a genuine treatment.
I decided to leave the job on medical grounds because I am under a nine-month bond and did not want my manager to know about my job switch. Unfortunately, my manager somehow found out and is not granting me release.
I would appreciate it if anyone could address the queries I have posted above.
Thanks in advance.
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Thank you for responding. I would like to clarify that I have recently received an opportunity at XYZ Company and have already resigned last week. I am currently serving the one-month notice period. However, I am leaving on medical grounds because I am undergoing a genuine treatment.
I decided to leave the job on medical grounds because I am under a nine-month bond and did not want my manager to know about my job switch. Unfortunately, my manager somehow found out and is not granting me release.
I would appreciate it if anyone could address the queries I have posted above.
Thanks in advance.
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Since you have decided to leave the company for better opportunities and you are ready to pay the bond money, I do not think any other hurdles may crop up. After depositing the bond money, please ask your manager (or HR through your manager) to accord you a clean exit.
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R K Nair
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Thanks,
R K Nair
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Often, I found that some members who are posting threads are not revealing their names. Why is it so? Some are posting their names like Anonymous, Astronauts, XYZ, etc. See, there is no harm in revealing your names. When you are asking for expert advice for your problems, what is the harm in mentioning your names? This will provide a good comfort to people who are responding to your query. Otherwise, they will feel that they are giving advice to someone like a "deadwood" or a deaf/dumb person. Moderators/Super moderators are requested to strictly object to those persons who do not reveal their identity.
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R K Nair
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R K Nair
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Hello, Mr. Nair,
I appreciate your response, sir. At this point in time, I am in a critical situation and a little scared. Hence, I did not mention my name considering the possibility that my company's HR might be a member of this community.
Based on your experience, should I expect a clean exit after paying the amount? My questions are:
1) What if the manager mentions any negative remarks on the relieving or experience letter? Can I take legal action against them? My records are all clear, and as I have stated, my performance was good throughout.
2) Does the manager have the right to do anything that could harm my career in such a manner?
3) How should I articulate to HR that I require a clean exit?
Thank you for your guidance.
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I appreciate your response, sir. At this point in time, I am in a critical situation and a little scared. Hence, I did not mention my name considering the possibility that my company's HR might be a member of this community.
Based on your experience, should I expect a clean exit after paying the amount? My questions are:
1) What if the manager mentions any negative remarks on the relieving or experience letter? Can I take legal action against them? My records are all clear, and as I have stated, my performance was good throughout.
2) Does the manager have the right to do anything that could harm my career in such a manner?
3) How should I articulate to HR that I require a clean exit?
Thank you for your guidance.
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is anybody there ? i know i am sounding little impatient but please understand my situation and request you to help as soon as possible.
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You have jeopardized your own career, to put it bluntly, by telling a lie. There is a saying, "He who lies, lies to hide it and makes it two." How do you expect to clean it up when the reason for quitting is moving on to a new job and not a health issue? You have not answered my question about whether you would have quit for medical reasons without the offer of another job.
If I were your manager, I would write in the exit letter somewhat like this: "We wish xxx all the best in his/her new job, even though he did not inform us about the other offer and requested to be relieved without completing the bond period on medical grounds. We did not go as far as insisting the worker be examined by an independent doctor."
I am sorry if I have not been of much help. I have written this to warn others in a similar situation to yours not to follow your path.
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If I were your manager, I would write in the exit letter somewhat like this: "We wish xxx all the best in his/her new job, even though he did not inform us about the other offer and requested to be relieved without completing the bond period on medical grounds. We did not go as far as insisting the worker be examined by an independent doctor."
I am sorry if I have not been of much help. I have written this to warn others in a similar situation to yours not to follow your path.
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Thanks for the private message. There is a thin line between hiding the truth and telling a lie. Politicians are known for both. When we hide the truth, we should be prepared for the consequences. I am from a generation when having a sound sleep at night was important. When we hide the truth and are caught, we lose sleep and start worrying.
Wish you all the best.
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Wish you all the best.
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Hello Astronaut,
You AREN'T GOING TO LIKE THIS—nevertheless, I hope you realize that this is for YOUR benefit and not anyone else's.
Like Simhan mentioned, YOU brought this upon yourself.
So don't fret and blame anyone else—EXCEPT YOURSELF.
Didn't you know about this bond when you began looking for new opportunities?
Please note that there's nothing wrong per se in such a step. It all depends on the timing and HOW you go about doing it.
Or did you think that you could get away with it?
And coming to think of it, you have only a couple of months to go to complete the bond—July 2014. What was the tearing hurry?
There's another aspect that you didn't mention—but I have a FEELING that your training did contribute to some extent at least in your getting this new job.
Please correct me if wrong. If this is true, then don't you think that you USED the training opportunity given to you by the present company? I am not sure you either know or realize how it feels when you get to know that someone USED you for their selfish motives. And when your present company decides to take action that is in THEIR interest, you find fault and quote the rules? Going by the very same rules, you weren't expected to resign in the first place. Excellent moralistic, ethical and professional attitude I should say...NO pun intended please.
And to top it, you faked a medical reason to resign. Frankly, IF I were the company's HR, I would take this into a criminal direction [guess you know what that means]—where you, the doctor who gave you the fake certificate can both be hauled up to...you know where. Forget about the doctor, hope you know how YOUR career could take a hit, given the strong background verification processes in vogue nowadays.
Another angle, please note that the company is on a strong wicket legally—since the bond is related to specialized training. You can go through the many earlier threads in this forum—you will know what I mean.
Coming to the option you have: Just let go of this opportunity, withdraw the resignation and continue your services with this company.
However, given the scenario of your own creation, I DON'T THINK you can continue for a long time in this company without hurting your future promotions or hikes. So once the bond gets over, please look out for new openings and move.
And one last point: suggest LEARN from this mistake...then it no more remains a 'mistake'. It becomes a part of your experience.
Nothing in this response was intended to 'hurt'—it was to bring you back onto the right track of professional ethics and practice.
All the Best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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You AREN'T GOING TO LIKE THIS—nevertheless, I hope you realize that this is for YOUR benefit and not anyone else's.
Like Simhan mentioned, YOU brought this upon yourself.
So don't fret and blame anyone else—EXCEPT YOURSELF.
Didn't you know about this bond when you began looking for new opportunities?
Please note that there's nothing wrong per se in such a step. It all depends on the timing and HOW you go about doing it.
Or did you think that you could get away with it?
And coming to think of it, you have only a couple of months to go to complete the bond—July 2014. What was the tearing hurry?
There's another aspect that you didn't mention—but I have a FEELING that your training did contribute to some extent at least in your getting this new job.
Please correct me if wrong. If this is true, then don't you think that you USED the training opportunity given to you by the present company? I am not sure you either know or realize how it feels when you get to know that someone USED you for their selfish motives. And when your present company decides to take action that is in THEIR interest, you find fault and quote the rules? Going by the very same rules, you weren't expected to resign in the first place. Excellent moralistic, ethical and professional attitude I should say...NO pun intended please.
And to top it, you faked a medical reason to resign. Frankly, IF I were the company's HR, I would take this into a criminal direction [guess you know what that means]—where you, the doctor who gave you the fake certificate can both be hauled up to...you know where. Forget about the doctor, hope you know how YOUR career could take a hit, given the strong background verification processes in vogue nowadays.
Another angle, please note that the company is on a strong wicket legally—since the bond is related to specialized training. You can go through the many earlier threads in this forum—you will know what I mean.
Coming to the option you have: Just let go of this opportunity, withdraw the resignation and continue your services with this company.
However, given the scenario of your own creation, I DON'T THINK you can continue for a long time in this company without hurting your future promotions or hikes. So once the bond gets over, please look out for new openings and move.
And one last point: suggest LEARN from this mistake...then it no more remains a 'mistake'. It becomes a part of your experience.
Nothing in this response was intended to 'hurt'—it was to bring you back onto the right track of professional ethics and practice.
All the Best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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