Dear all,
I am working as an assistant manager-HR in an FMCG company. I got married almost a year back. In my contact address, my residential address is given, and after marriage, I have not changed it to my in-laws' address as my parental address is provided in my residential address proof. The appointment letter of the company states that an employee needs to inform the management in case of a change in the residential address. Nowhere in the appointment letter is it mentioned that a female employee needs to submit the in-laws' address after marriage. However, the GM-HRD is pressurizing me to provide my in-laws' address to the company.
Kindly advise if I am bound to give my in-laws' address to the company.
Regards,
Aparajita
From Canada, Yellowknife
I am working as an assistant manager-HR in an FMCG company. I got married almost a year back. In my contact address, my residential address is given, and after marriage, I have not changed it to my in-laws' address as my parental address is provided in my residential address proof. The appointment letter of the company states that an employee needs to inform the management in case of a change in the residential address. Nowhere in the appointment letter is it mentioned that a female employee needs to submit the in-laws' address after marriage. However, the GM-HRD is pressurizing me to provide my in-laws' address to the company.
Kindly advise if I am bound to give my in-laws' address to the company.
Regards,
Aparajita
From Canada, Yellowknife
Once you are married, your hubby house becomes yours as per our Indian customs. you need to change your address to the present one. Pon
From India, Lucknow
From India, Lucknow
Dear Pon,
I really agree with you, but nowadays most of the women employees prefer to stick with their previous names only; they are not changing their names after marriage. In this situation, what role can HR play? Can somebody shed more light on this issue? What are the legal consequences of it? I would appreciate more views on this issue.
Kirti
From India, Mumbai
I really agree with you, but nowadays most of the women employees prefer to stick with their previous names only; they are not changing their names after marriage. In this situation, what role can HR play? Can somebody shed more light on this issue? What are the legal consequences of it? I would appreciate more views on this issue.
Kirti
From India, Mumbai
Hi @aparajitaaks,
With reference to the posting, if you have changed your residence address from your parents' house to your in-laws' house, what is the harm in informing the company regarding the change in address? What is all the fuss about? It's a simple change in address, just like when you shift from one house to another. Also, in your query, you mentioned that it's a clause in your employment contract to inform the company about a change in address.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
With reference to the posting, if you have changed your residence address from your parents' house to your in-laws' house, what is the harm in informing the company regarding the change in address? What is all the fuss about? It's a simple change in address, just like when you shift from one house to another. Also, in your query, you mentioned that it's a clause in your employment contract to inform the company about a change in address.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
Hello fellow CiteHRs,
I love this debate because it's not really about address updates. Instead, it's about individuals' mindsets and 'thinkings'.
Whilst I realize that being a patriarchal society, it is automatically assumed that post-marriage, a woman's entire identity magically owes its allegiance to her marital apparatus.
However, let's just look around ourselves - especially at professional women who've earned significant mileage prior to getting married. What we find there is not surprising at all.
A large percentage of them either don't change their surnames, or if they do, they simply add their husband's surname after their original name (including their maiden surname). And, as far as I am concerned, it is not just appropriate but entirely normal.
And, like any reasonable argument, the above can also be extended to the context of residential addresses.
However, the issue here is not that Aparajita has any qualms of supplying her employer with the address of her marital home. Instead, she objects to providing them with her in-laws' address.
In my view, her position is entirely appropriate because it is no business of any employer to know where their employees' relatives live. If such were the case, then where do we draw the line? Do we start supplying our siblings' addresses, their in-laws' addresses, etc.?
I think her GM HR is being entirely unreasonable because if challenged in an appropriate legal surround, he/she would literally have no legs to stand their argument on. At its very core, it is fundamentally baseless and nonsensical.
From India, Gurgaon
I love this debate because it's not really about address updates. Instead, it's about individuals' mindsets and 'thinkings'.
Whilst I realize that being a patriarchal society, it is automatically assumed that post-marriage, a woman's entire identity magically owes its allegiance to her marital apparatus.
However, let's just look around ourselves - especially at professional women who've earned significant mileage prior to getting married. What we find there is not surprising at all.
A large percentage of them either don't change their surnames, or if they do, they simply add their husband's surname after their original name (including their maiden surname). And, as far as I am concerned, it is not just appropriate but entirely normal.
And, like any reasonable argument, the above can also be extended to the context of residential addresses.
However, the issue here is not that Aparajita has any qualms of supplying her employer with the address of her marital home. Instead, she objects to providing them with her in-laws' address.
In my view, her position is entirely appropriate because it is no business of any employer to know where their employees' relatives live. If such were the case, then where do we draw the line? Do we start supplying our siblings' addresses, their in-laws' addresses, etc.?
I think her GM HR is being entirely unreasonable because if challenged in an appropriate legal surround, he/she would literally have no legs to stand their argument on. At its very core, it is fundamentally baseless and nonsensical.
From India, Gurgaon
Hi Gaurav,
Interesting contribution from your side, I agree with you. I feel that when a man and woman get married, these are two individuals coming together promising each other to spend life together. Why should women adjust with lots of things such as a change in name, leave parents' house and go to in-laws' house, change surnames, etc.? In fact, both man and woman shall take equal steps towards each other.
Instead of women coming to the husband's father's house, they should both leave separately and reside in another house. If, due to economical or emotional reasons, the couple is not able to do so, then there should be a mutual agreement between the man and wife regarding staying at one of the parents' houses.
A woman leaving her house after marriage is considered absolutely normal, whereas if a man chooses to be a "ghar-jamaai," he is mocked in society. How silly!
Old traditions are not challenged, and those who do are ridiculed as bad-mannered, etc.
With reference to my earlier post here, what I mean is, if the woman has left her house and shifted to her in-laws' house to reside there, a company has a right to know the current address of the employee for communication purposes. In my experience, the company asks for two addresses: one where the person resides and an alternative address of a relative, guardian, or so, just in case of an emergency.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
Interesting contribution from your side, I agree with you. I feel that when a man and woman get married, these are two individuals coming together promising each other to spend life together. Why should women adjust with lots of things such as a change in name, leave parents' house and go to in-laws' house, change surnames, etc.? In fact, both man and woman shall take equal steps towards each other.
Instead of women coming to the husband's father's house, they should both leave separately and reside in another house. If, due to economical or emotional reasons, the couple is not able to do so, then there should be a mutual agreement between the man and wife regarding staying at one of the parents' houses.
A woman leaving her house after marriage is considered absolutely normal, whereas if a man chooses to be a "ghar-jamaai," he is mocked in society. How silly!
Old traditions are not challenged, and those who do are ridiculed as bad-mannered, etc.
With reference to my earlier post here, what I mean is, if the woman has left her house and shifted to her in-laws' house to reside there, a company has a right to know the current address of the employee for communication purposes. In my experience, the company asks for two addresses: one where the person resides and an alternative address of a relative, guardian, or so, just in case of an emergency.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
Dear Aparajita,
There is no need to complicate the issue. It is an established fact (which you agree to) that an employee should inform the management in case of a change of address. It is immaterial whether it is caused due to:
- the need for better accommodation
- preference for a locality
- change in the status of property (from rented to one's own or vice versa)
- or for any other reason such as marriage.
Now, it seems as if you have invited your colleagues, including your GM, to your marriage ceremony, and the gentleman seems to have been fixated by "your in-laws." Please ignore this fact or otherwise. If you have changed your address, which is generally the case, provide your new address. If you are still staying with your parents, just tell your GM FIRMLY THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE in your residential address status.
I hope you would find the above helpful.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
There is no need to complicate the issue. It is an established fact (which you agree to) that an employee should inform the management in case of a change of address. It is immaterial whether it is caused due to:
- the need for better accommodation
- preference for a locality
- change in the status of property (from rented to one's own or vice versa)
- or for any other reason such as marriage.
Now, it seems as if you have invited your colleagues, including your GM, to your marriage ceremony, and the gentleman seems to have been fixated by "your in-laws." Please ignore this fact or otherwise. If you have changed your address, which is generally the case, provide your new address. If you are still staying with your parents, just tell your GM FIRMLY THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE in your residential address status.
I hope you would find the above helpful.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Hello Aparajita, I am with Raj Kumar. Looks like the whole discussion is being confused and digressed from a 'change of address' issue to the 'reason(s)' and 'logic' regarding the change of address—notice the difference?
For a moment, forget that your marriage is the 'cause' for the change of your address. If your parents (if you are living with them) OR you (assuming you live separately in some shared accommodation in a city), WOULD YOU NOT INFORM THE OFFICE IF YOU CHANGED THE RESIDENCE/ACCOMMODATION?
Please note that the Office needs to be given the NEW ADDRESS as per the rules—it doesn't matter if it's the in-laws' address or a friend's address or something else AND also doesn't matter WHY YOU HAD TO CHANGE the address. Like Raj Kumar mentioned, just give them the new address UNDER YOUR NAME—WHATEVER THE NAME IS AS PER THE COMPANY RECORDS.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
For a moment, forget that your marriage is the 'cause' for the change of your address. If your parents (if you are living with them) OR you (assuming you live separately in some shared accommodation in a city), WOULD YOU NOT INFORM THE OFFICE IF YOU CHANGED THE RESIDENCE/ACCOMMODATION?
Please note that the Office needs to be given the NEW ADDRESS as per the rules—it doesn't matter if it's the in-laws' address or a friend's address or something else AND also doesn't matter WHY YOU HAD TO CHANGE the address. Like Raj Kumar mentioned, just give them the new address UNDER YOUR NAME—WHATEVER THE NAME IS AS PER THE COMPANY RECORDS.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Aparajita,
As stated by Mr. Rajkumar and Mr. Sateesh, it is the employees' moral responsibility to submit details for a change of address, spouse details, and other relevant information to the HR Department for their records.
This is not being done by the employees due to their ignorance and lack of awareness of the system and the purpose of providing these details.
In defense services, all soldiers are required to provide details such as Wife's name (Maiden & After Marriage), Wife's father's name, Age/Date of Birth, and Wife's address. Consequently, in the office, records will be updated for Nomination, Legal Heir, Family Pension details, etc., immediately after marriage. If you wish, you can introduce the same process in your office as well. Additionally, you can include the Nomination Form, a self-attested Legal Heir certificate, and even a Will that can be filed along with the individual's personal documents (properly sealed in a cover).
Once you initiate this in your office, inform other offices as well. Your suggestions will be taken into consideration, and they can also follow the procedure, which will be beneficial to others. By starting in your office, eventually, this practice will spread to all offices.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Kumbakonam
As stated by Mr. Rajkumar and Mr. Sateesh, it is the employees' moral responsibility to submit details for a change of address, spouse details, and other relevant information to the HR Department for their records.
This is not being done by the employees due to their ignorance and lack of awareness of the system and the purpose of providing these details.
In defense services, all soldiers are required to provide details such as Wife's name (Maiden & After Marriage), Wife's father's name, Age/Date of Birth, and Wife's address. Consequently, in the office, records will be updated for Nomination, Legal Heir, Family Pension details, etc., immediately after marriage. If you wish, you can introduce the same process in your office as well. Additionally, you can include the Nomination Form, a self-attested Legal Heir certificate, and even a Will that can be filed along with the individual's personal documents (properly sealed in a cover).
Once you initiate this in your office, inform other offices as well. Your suggestions will be taken into consideration, and they can also follow the procedure, which will be beneficial to others. By starting in your office, eventually, this practice will spread to all offices.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear All,
Thanks for the views. In a nutshell, I can see there are two distinct opinions. One view says since I have got married, I should submit my in-laws' residential address. Another view says there is no harm if I do not do so.
I do not have any problem in submitting my in-laws' address to the company. But in the GM-HRD's attitude and the way he asked for the address from me, gender biasness was very apparent, which made me more stubborn. Nowhere in the Hindu Marriage Act (which I went through at a glance after this event, I might be wrong) could I find that it is mentioned that after marriage a woman's residential address becomes that of her husband's. In today's world, while we are speaking about women liberation and all, how can one force a woman to change her residential address to that of her in-laws'? It is up to a woman to decide which address she wants to maintain. If a woman wants to maintain her parental address, then can anyone question and compel her?
Regards, Aparajita
From Canada, Yellowknife
Thanks for the views. In a nutshell, I can see there are two distinct opinions. One view says since I have got married, I should submit my in-laws' residential address. Another view says there is no harm if I do not do so.
I do not have any problem in submitting my in-laws' address to the company. But in the GM-HRD's attitude and the way he asked for the address from me, gender biasness was very apparent, which made me more stubborn. Nowhere in the Hindu Marriage Act (which I went through at a glance after this event, I might be wrong) could I find that it is mentioned that after marriage a woman's residential address becomes that of her husband's. In today's world, while we are speaking about women liberation and all, how can one force a woman to change her residential address to that of her in-laws'? It is up to a woman to decide which address she wants to maintain. If a woman wants to maintain her parental address, then can anyone question and compel her?
Regards, Aparajita
From Canada, Yellowknife
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