Dear
sir
this is nivedita from noida.this is my first mail to site hr.actually i m only one in hr .i have some quary related to standing orders.our company have completed 3 years ,we r in mfg.could u tell me plz is there any compultion for having standing orders?
and the procedure,bcoz our consultant was asking for big money its around 20 k for all .is it ok?
i hope u will reply soon.
Regards
Nivedita Kaushik
sr.exe.hr
greater noida
From India, Delhi
sir
this is nivedita from noida.this is my first mail to site hr.actually i m only one in hr .i have some quary related to standing orders.our company have completed 3 years ,we r in mfg.could u tell me plz is there any compultion for having standing orders?
and the procedure,bcoz our consultant was asking for big money its around 20 k for all .is it ok?
i hope u will reply soon.
Regards
Nivedita Kaushik
sr.exe.hr
greater noida
From India, Delhi
2
Hi Nivedita,
Yes its mandatory to have Standing Orders in the company. As far as fees of consultant is concerned its pretty OK. Otherwise you may also have the copy of the model standing order available in the market which is enough and you need not spend any money on getting the standing orders customised by the consultant. Most of the companies keep model standing orders.
Amit Goyal
09850927168
From India, Delhi
Yes its mandatory to have Standing Orders in the company. As far as fees of consultant is concerned its pretty OK. Otherwise you may also have the copy of the model standing order available in the market which is enough and you need not spend any money on getting the standing orders customised by the consultant. Most of the companies keep model standing orders.
Amit Goyal
09850927168
From India, Delhi
thanks amit
but some time it happen when we need to take some action against worker then i feel scared like suspend,terminate.i dont have perfect knowledge about all rules.
we want to terminate one of ore worker ,bcoz his behavior and working attitude is not good.
how can we out him without ant problem.
nivedita kaushik
g.noida
From India, Delhi
but some time it happen when we need to take some action against worker then i feel scared like suspend,terminate.i dont have perfect knowledge about all rules.
we want to terminate one of ore worker ,bcoz his behavior and working attitude is not good.
how can we out him without ant problem.
nivedita kaushik
g.noida
From India, Delhi
Hello,
Forget the consultant.
You can handle the matter yourself.
Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Act 1946 is a central legislation and applies to the whole country. It applies to industrial establishments that employ or employed, in Maharashtra 50 workmen on any day in the previous twelve months. In Nioda you should check this figure from the labour office of the government but I feel the figure will not be more that 100 workmen.
The purpose of this law is "to provide for rules defining with sufficient precision certain conditions of employment in industrial establishments"
Apart from other things it provides the matters on which rules must be made. The law gives you the fredom to make your own rules on all prescribed subjects and get the same "certified" by the Certifying Officer under the Act. But to make matters simple the act also provides, Model Standing Orders" that are automatically applicable and binding till y a due process they are amended.
In my fairly long experience, these are quite adequate for the purposes of dealing with workmen. All that one has to do is to read the bare act critically and act as guided by the act.
Honestly if you make an attempt to read this legislation, you will also realize that you do not need a "consultant" for this purpose and certainly not at this high a price!! For other acts and purposes hiring a consultant may be considered and even worthwhile, but speaking for myself I never liked to depend on any consultant while I was working. We need them, they are a great help because of their experience but generally you should pay by use and try to be self reliant in matters where you are qualified. Hiring a lawyer is a different matter.
I am a practicing consultant in IR and HR and am NOT soliciting work, because I want all professionals to be independent and self reliant! Apparently I work against my own interests but I will not put profession above the monetary gains!
Please make a little effort and you will find that you can handle the issues yourself. If you need help, the forum is always available anyway!!
Regards
samvedan
January 16, 2008
From India, Pune
Forget the consultant.
You can handle the matter yourself.
Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Act 1946 is a central legislation and applies to the whole country. It applies to industrial establishments that employ or employed, in Maharashtra 50 workmen on any day in the previous twelve months. In Nioda you should check this figure from the labour office of the government but I feel the figure will not be more that 100 workmen.
The purpose of this law is "to provide for rules defining with sufficient precision certain conditions of employment in industrial establishments"
Apart from other things it provides the matters on which rules must be made. The law gives you the fredom to make your own rules on all prescribed subjects and get the same "certified" by the Certifying Officer under the Act. But to make matters simple the act also provides, Model Standing Orders" that are automatically applicable and binding till y a due process they are amended.
In my fairly long experience, these are quite adequate for the purposes of dealing with workmen. All that one has to do is to read the bare act critically and act as guided by the act.
Honestly if you make an attempt to read this legislation, you will also realize that you do not need a "consultant" for this purpose and certainly not at this high a price!! For other acts and purposes hiring a consultant may be considered and even worthwhile, but speaking for myself I never liked to depend on any consultant while I was working. We need them, they are a great help because of their experience but generally you should pay by use and try to be self reliant in matters where you are qualified. Hiring a lawyer is a different matter.
I am a practicing consultant in IR and HR and am NOT soliciting work, because I want all professionals to be independent and self reliant! Apparently I work against my own interests but I will not put profession above the monetary gains!
Please make a little effort and you will find that you can handle the issues yourself. If you need help, the forum is always available anyway!!
Regards
samvedan
January 16, 2008
From India, Pune
Hi Nivedita,
As Samvedan rightly said that you should better follow the Model Standing orders, you may go through these model standing orders and find the solution of your problem.
Amit Goyal
9850927168
From India, Delhi
As Samvedan rightly said that you should better follow the Model Standing orders, you may go through these model standing orders and find the solution of your problem.
Amit Goyal
9850927168
From India, Delhi
Hi Nivedita,
Its true that you can do it yourself & you should be self-reliant, but i suggest you outsource this thing as you are the only one handling HR & there are many other issues to handle for you.
Me, being a consultant has been charging only Rs.10,000/- standard for all my clients. If you need help get in touch with me.
Thanks,
Mehul
09892188218
From India, Pune
Its true that you can do it yourself & you should be self-reliant, but i suggest you outsource this thing as you are the only one handling HR & there are many other issues to handle for you.
Me, being a consultant has been charging only Rs.10,000/- standard for all my clients. If you need help get in touch with me.
Thanks,
Mehul
09892188218
From India, Pune
Company standing orders are mandatory requirement for manufacturing organization. Till your standing orders are certified, you need to display model standing orders.
There is a procedure for applying for certification. Kindly ask your consultant besides preparing standing orders, what will be his role. You need to get clarification.
In case you have any problem you can reach me on my email :drdaleep@hotmail.com or mobile 9810111326
Regards
Daleep
There is a procedure for applying for certification. Kindly ask your consultant besides preparing standing orders, what will be his role. You need to get clarification.
In case you have any problem you can reach me on my email :drdaleep@hotmail.com or mobile 9810111326
Regards
Daleep
hi
IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVEA APPROVED STANDING ORDERS FOR YOUR COMPANY, WHERE YOU CAN SPECIFY THINGS WITH PRECSION AND IT WOULD BE EASY TO DEAL WITH EMPLOYEE RELATED PROBLEMS. A PRACTICING HR OFFICER CAN READ THE STANDING ORDER ACT AND IMPLEMENT IT TOO, YET IT IS BETTER TO CONSULT A SPECIALIST WHILE FORMULATING THE STANDING ORDERS( ESPECIALLY IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE ONLY ONE PERSON IS MANGING THE MATTERS) TO ENSURE THAT THE IMPORTHANT THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THE APPROVING PROCESS TAKES TIME.
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kARATH ak
From India, Gurgaon
IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVEA APPROVED STANDING ORDERS FOR YOUR COMPANY, WHERE YOU CAN SPECIFY THINGS WITH PRECSION AND IT WOULD BE EASY TO DEAL WITH EMPLOYEE RELATED PROBLEMS. A PRACTICING HR OFFICER CAN READ THE STANDING ORDER ACT AND IMPLEMENT IT TOO, YET IT IS BETTER TO CONSULT A SPECIALIST WHILE FORMULATING THE STANDING ORDERS( ESPECIALLY IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE ONLY ONE PERSON IS MANGING THE MATTERS) TO ENSURE THAT THE IMPORTHANT THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THE APPROVING PROCESS TAKES TIME.
bYE
kARATH ak
From India, Gurgaon
hi nivedita
i am also a hr officer in noida.if u have more than 100 workers then it is mendotiry for u that u have a approved standing order which is approved by labour commissioner.if u have any other question then u can call me any time on my cellphone no.9971488905.
office no. 0120-4061511
DHEERAJ SHUKLA
i am also a hr officer in noida.if u have more than 100 workers then it is mendotiry for u that u have a approved standing order which is approved by labour commissioner.if u have any other question then u can call me any time on my cellphone no.9971488905.
office no. 0120-4061511
DHEERAJ SHUKLA
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