Dear Friends and Seniors,
I have completed my Bachelors of Science in Management from an International University and had really spent a lot during my bachelors but I really dont regret it, as the standard and exposure they had provided had really help me learn and grow.
Thus I decided to work during my master and chose to do a distance learning thing.now i have almost a year exp. where i have good knowledge of recruitments and co-ordinating.
Recently i have joined a company as an HR coordinator. They have not made my job responsibility clear to me.They are just keeping me engaged by asking me to make modules of the training which i am enjoying doing it but they are nt giving any input on it neither implementing them.
All I am doing is taking telephonic interview for different profiles and i feel that I am not learning anything.
Feel like a secretary to the HR. there's no one else other than 2 ppl in HR.
What do i do???Plz suggest. Can i stick this company. How can i make things better???
PLZ need HEL P:(
From India, Lucknow
I have completed my Bachelors of Science in Management from an International University and had really spent a lot during my bachelors but I really dont regret it, as the standard and exposure they had provided had really help me learn and grow.
Thus I decided to work during my master and chose to do a distance learning thing.now i have almost a year exp. where i have good knowledge of recruitments and co-ordinating.
Recently i have joined a company as an HR coordinator. They have not made my job responsibility clear to me.They are just keeping me engaged by asking me to make modules of the training which i am enjoying doing it but they are nt giving any input on it neither implementing them.
All I am doing is taking telephonic interview for different profiles and i feel that I am not learning anything.
Feel like a secretary to the HR. there's no one else other than 2 ppl in HR.
What do i do???Plz suggest. Can i stick this company. How can i make things better???
PLZ need HEL P:(
From India, Lucknow
Dear Preethi,
If the current profile does not match you and you are not satisfied with your job, what is your role there.
Search for a better job and then quit the current company.
But make sure, the new company or profile will suit you for your expectation.
Later you should not regret for leaving the current employer.
All the Best. If possible, please log in to linkedin and find my group not kings but kingmakers and connect. You will find some new openings in HR there.
From India, Madras
29If the current profile does not match you and you are not satisfied with your job, what is your role there.
Search for a better job and then quit the current company.
But make sure, the new company or profile will suit you for your expectation.
Later you should not regret for leaving the current employer.
All the Best. If possible, please log in to linkedin and find my group not kings but kingmakers and connect. You will find some new openings in HR there.
From India, Madras
Hello,
Have you met an education or a career counsellor PRIOR to electing to do a bachealors in Science in Management and that too at admittedly high costs?
I accept that each one of us a born Manager-efficacy issues apart. Yet educatuin per se` ( I mean conventional in natural sciences, or science stream or commerce) is always desirable and at that age to add to the load also the management subjects is slightly tough. You have two years AFTER graduation to prepare and do some high end management programme. That way industry respects as you have learned deeply and have also matured more at least relatively!
Ultimately. a management qualification is like obtaining a driving license. Many obtain it but only a few really drive safely and economically. I suppose the Counsellor would have told these or similar things if he had the chance!!
But all that is water under the bridge-it has flown out. Let us look at the present scenario in which you find yourself.
Look, there is no substitute to a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS etc. When you do get in any of these institutes, you will at once realise the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should be not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face to face interactions and hands on work on real issues!
I am aware this is a long reply but it may help others too and if I sound harsh (even rude, for that matter) just understand that it not the intention but my CONCERN for youngsters that drives me to adopt virtually an absolutist stance on certain matters!
I hope you may still be able to usher in corrective actions. However, if you can't than remember, please remember the story of Eklavya from Mahabharata!
I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have and if care to raise them.
Regards
samvedan
November 19, 2010
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From India, Pune
Have you met an education or a career counsellor PRIOR to electing to do a bachealors in Science in Management and that too at admittedly high costs?
I accept that each one of us a born Manager-efficacy issues apart. Yet educatuin per se` ( I mean conventional in natural sciences, or science stream or commerce) is always desirable and at that age to add to the load also the management subjects is slightly tough. You have two years AFTER graduation to prepare and do some high end management programme. That way industry respects as you have learned deeply and have also matured more at least relatively!
Ultimately. a management qualification is like obtaining a driving license. Many obtain it but only a few really drive safely and economically. I suppose the Counsellor would have told these or similar things if he had the chance!!
But all that is water under the bridge-it has flown out. Let us look at the present scenario in which you find yourself.
- You still feel the need to do proper management Programme for two year, albeit through Distance Learning as you are now in a job.
- On the job, your employers do not seem to tap your management knowledge and asking you do things that a smart and slightly experienced graduate could do!
- Your employers have NOT given you a proper job profile and have really left you do only that which you will be instructed to!
Look, there is no substitute to a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS etc. When you do get in any of these institutes, you will at once realise the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should be not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face to face interactions and hands on work on real issues!
I am aware this is a long reply but it may help others too and if I sound harsh (even rude, for that matter) just understand that it not the intention but my CONCERN for youngsters that drives me to adopt virtually an absolutist stance on certain matters!
I hope you may still be able to usher in corrective actions. However, if you can't than remember, please remember the story of Eklavya from Mahabharata!
I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have and if care to raise them.
Regards
samvedan
November 19, 2010
----------------
From India, Pune
Dear Mr. Samdevan,
Look, there is no substitute to a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS etc. When you do get in any of these institutes, you will at once realise the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should be not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face to face interactions and hands on work on real issues!
" I cannot accept these lines, I have a different opinion, I am from a middle class family struggled a lot to get education, I had opportunity to go for Diploma(after 10th) since then at the age of 17 i started my career, As of now completed MBA and PG in Rural Development(with a intent to improve state of affairs in my inlaws village, sure i am going to do it) wroked for majors in Coimbatore and now i am in Oman.
It is not only the institute which makes the difference. Don't say Distance learning courses are not valuable. It is the way how you are taking things. I too faced this problems like rejection due to distance learning in my interviews in India. I bet i am capable/skilled to do more than an IIT-ian and I studied everything thro' correspondence except a Diploma
Also request all the HR Folks to give fair opportunity to candidates who studied in distance leanring mode
more at https://www.citehr.com/297103-need-s...#ixzz15ttznvFl
From Oman, Muscat
Look, there is no substitute to a regular Management qualification like from any of the IIMs, Symbiosis, ISB-Hyderabad, JBIMS etc. When you do get in any of these institutes, you will at once realise the difference between two worlds.
In my personal opinion, management is NOT a discipline that freshers can or should be not be allowed to learn through Distance Learning. This is such a sensitive discipline that there is no alternative to face to face interactions and hands on work on real issues!
" I cannot accept these lines, I have a different opinion, I am from a middle class family struggled a lot to get education, I had opportunity to go for Diploma(after 10th) since then at the age of 17 i started my career, As of now completed MBA and PG in Rural Development(with a intent to improve state of affairs in my inlaws village, sure i am going to do it) wroked for majors in Coimbatore and now i am in Oman.
It is not only the institute which makes the difference. Don't say Distance learning courses are not valuable. It is the way how you are taking things. I too faced this problems like rejection due to distance learning in my interviews in India. I bet i am capable/skilled to do more than an IIT-ian and I studied everything thro' correspondence except a Diploma
Also request all the HR Folks to give fair opportunity to candidates who studied in distance leanring mode
more at https://www.citehr.com/297103-need-s...#ixzz15ttznvFl
From Oman, Muscat
Hello,
I respect your views, opinions and experience and also the achievements!
Basically we are on the same wave length.
The pioneers of industrialization in the world never had Harvard, Stanford or in India IIms etc. yet the Industry estabsliehd and grew. This is a proof enough that Management Education is NOT CRITICAL to success (though it HELPS!) The younger generations of these pioneers seem to take advantage of Management Education and make the industry grow.
The strata of the society one belongs to or one belonged to does not matter at all. But if you have the means and possibilities, why not go for the best? But I do realise that everyone is not so lucky! And that is why I pointed to a story from Mahabharata.
The Pandavas and more particularly Arjun, being born princes had the best of teachers in the art of warfare and statecraft. Arjun was considered the best archer of the times, but somewhere in the wilds Eklavya, son of tribal leader who did not have the means to offer excellent education to his son. Eklavya on his own, virtually without help, idolised Dronacharya the Guru of Pandavas and started self training. Dronacharya did not even know.
That it was by an accident he realised the superiority of Eklavya in archery and of the fact Eklavya idolised him as a Guru and had developed so much that he could overshadow Arjun himself and then tricked him to give his (Eklavya) thumb as Gurudakshina (which Eklavya did!) and eleminated any probale challenge to Arjun's superiority, is quite a different matter!
But the moral of the story is "if you cannot become Arjun, you still can become Eklavya oy your own efforts."
Isn't this what I have said in my response?
Regards
samvedan
November 22, 2010
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From India, Pune
I respect your views, opinions and experience and also the achievements!
Basically we are on the same wave length.
The pioneers of industrialization in the world never had Harvard, Stanford or in India IIms etc. yet the Industry estabsliehd and grew. This is a proof enough that Management Education is NOT CRITICAL to success (though it HELPS!) The younger generations of these pioneers seem to take advantage of Management Education and make the industry grow.
The strata of the society one belongs to or one belonged to does not matter at all. But if you have the means and possibilities, why not go for the best? But I do realise that everyone is not so lucky! And that is why I pointed to a story from Mahabharata.
The Pandavas and more particularly Arjun, being born princes had the best of teachers in the art of warfare and statecraft. Arjun was considered the best archer of the times, but somewhere in the wilds Eklavya, son of tribal leader who did not have the means to offer excellent education to his son. Eklavya on his own, virtually without help, idolised Dronacharya the Guru of Pandavas and started self training. Dronacharya did not even know.
That it was by an accident he realised the superiority of Eklavya in archery and of the fact Eklavya idolised him as a Guru and had developed so much that he could overshadow Arjun himself and then tricked him to give his (Eklavya) thumb as Gurudakshina (which Eklavya did!) and eleminated any probale challenge to Arjun's superiority, is quite a different matter!
But the moral of the story is "if you cannot become Arjun, you still can become Eklavya oy your own efforts."
Isn't this what I have said in my response?
Regards
samvedan
November 22, 2010
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From India, Pune
Dear Paul,
Please note that you should take this opportunity in your job as a learning experience at the risk & cost of your employer. As a management professional you can not expect to be spoon fed. In fact you should make your own path & prove your geniousness in whatever responsibility you are given.
Pl. dont under estimate any job. Whatever comes your way, make best use of the opportunity.
This is my humble advise to you.
Thanks
Virchand Vira
From India, Mumbai
Please note that you should take this opportunity in your job as a learning experience at the risk & cost of your employer. As a management professional you can not expect to be spoon fed. In fact you should make your own path & prove your geniousness in whatever responsibility you are given.
Pl. dont under estimate any job. Whatever comes your way, make best use of the opportunity.
This is my humble advise to you.
Thanks
Virchand Vira
From India, Mumbai
Thanks a lot for all your suggestions.
Taking every note of the advices and suggestions I would want to let you all know what have I planned for the coming days.
Please let me know also if the steps taken are right.
I don't want to look back and regret of whatever steps i have taken.
I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that i have learnt during my bachelors and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because i wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that i had learned and that i will been learning.
That's what I am doing i Guess!!!
No organization is perfect. Every one has some or the other flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned about one big thing-"the Office is under renovation" and thus its not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time, because the functioning might not be easy.
Now what Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem what we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than ones credibility and knowledge.
Every organization should be more talent Oriented.Thanks for the support there Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here atleast for a year so that I can see what all aspects can I contribute to and also learn through my experiences.
Moreover the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase.. trying to be "CORPORATES"..Its really a challenge and I take this chance with courage so that i cant put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN>
:)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YPU ALL THINK!!!
From India, Lucknow
Taking every note of the advices and suggestions I would want to let you all know what have I planned for the coming days.
Please let me know also if the steps taken are right.
I don't want to look back and regret of whatever steps i have taken.
I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that i have learnt during my bachelors and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because i wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that i had learned and that i will been learning.
That's what I am doing i Guess!!!
No organization is perfect. Every one has some or the other flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned about one big thing-"the Office is under renovation" and thus its not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time, because the functioning might not be easy.
Now what Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem what we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than ones credibility and knowledge.
Every organization should be more talent Oriented.Thanks for the support there Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here atleast for a year so that I can see what all aspects can I contribute to and also learn through my experiences.
Moreover the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase.. trying to be "CORPORATES"..Its really a challenge and I take this chance with courage so that i cant put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN>
:)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YPU ALL THINK!!!
From India, Lucknow
Thanks a lot for all your suggestions.
Taking every note of the advices and suggestions I would want to let you all know what have I planned for the coming days.
Please let me know also if the steps taken are right.
I don't want to look back and regret of whatever steps i have taken.
I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that i have learnt during my bachelors and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because i wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that i had learned and that i will been learning.
That's what I am doing i Guess!!!
No organization is perfect. Every one has some or the other flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned about one big thing-"the Office is under renovation" and thus its not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time, because the functioning might not be easy.
Now what Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem what we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than ones credibility and knowledge.
Every organization should be more talent Oriented.Thanks for the support there Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here atleast for a year so that I can see what all aspects can I contribute to and also learn through my experiences.
Moreover the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase.. trying to be "CORPORATES"..Its really a challenge and I take this chance with courage so that i cant put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN>
:)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK!!!
From India, Lucknow
Taking every note of the advices and suggestions I would want to let you all know what have I planned for the coming days.
Please let me know also if the steps taken are right.
I don't want to look back and regret of whatever steps i have taken.
I am pretty satisfied with the course content and exposure that i have learnt during my bachelors and my decision of choosing a distance learning course from Symbiosis was only because i wanted to learn more practically about all the aspects that i had learned and that i will been learning.
That's what I am doing i Guess!!!
No organization is perfect. Every one has some or the other flaws. My point is taking each opportunity as a challenge.
I might not have mentioned about one big thing-"the Office is under renovation" and thus its not really in a position that more responsibility could be given for the time, because the functioning might not be easy.
Now what Ms. Priya had discussed earlier is a serious problem what we face in India. Why do we give merit to degrees and colleges more than ones credibility and knowledge.
Every organization should be more talent Oriented.Thanks for the support there Dear Priya and Virchand.
I am planning to work here atleast for a year so that I can see what all aspects can I contribute to and also learn through my experiences.
Moreover the organization I am working with is in the initial transitional phase.. trying to be "CORPORATES"..Its really a challenge and I take this chance with courage so that i cant put in effort to bring in change here.
THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN>
:)
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK!!!
From India, Lucknow
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