Hi,
An IT Company in Karnataka have appointed two employee and they are under going training provided by the Company but company is paying them below minimum wages. Once there training completes company will increase their salary. How to handle this matter? Should PF be deducted for what they are receiving as salary?
or there may be any non compliance as their salary is below minimum wage?
Please suggest me with detail.
From India, Bengaluru
An IT Company in Karnataka have appointed two employee and they are under going training provided by the Company but company is paying them below minimum wages. Once there training completes company will increase their salary. How to handle this matter? Should PF be deducted for what they are receiving as salary?
or there may be any non compliance as their salary is below minimum wage?
Please suggest me with detail.
From India, Bengaluru
If at all any employee is under going training as internship then there is no need to contribute EPF.
If they are hired for job & if they are under going any training then company has to pay the wages with respect to the minimum wage act. Wages shall not be less than minimum wages.
In this case both ESI & EPF is applicable as they are employees of the organisation.
Any clarifications please do reach me
From India, Bangalore
If they are hired for job & if they are under going any training then company has to pay the wages with respect to the minimum wage act. Wages shall not be less than minimum wages.
In this case both ESI & EPF is applicable as they are employees of the organisation.
Any clarifications please do reach me
From India, Bangalore
The employee on training are treated as apprentice and minimum wages epf and esic rules are not mandatory for apprentice
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Apprentice is applicable for the organisation which registered under Apprentice act.
How can any organisation hire the engineers/graduates who passed out from the academics & hire them as trainee & post training they will increase the wages?
It is clearly mentioned as they are appointed as employee but providing training for freshers
From India, Bangalore
How can any organisation hire the engineers/graduates who passed out from the academics & hire them as trainee & post training they will increase the wages?
It is clearly mentioned as they are appointed as employee but providing training for freshers
From India, Bangalore
Swetaabhishek, does company appointed them officially and take them on their payroll..did company has given them appointment letter
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited vs. Union of India and Others 2015 LLR 893
It was held by the HC that the provisions of Employees’ Provident Funds and Miscellaneous Provisions act, 1952 include every person including apprentices or trainees within the purview of definition to the expression ‘employee’ except those engaged under the Apprentices Act, 1961 or Standing Orders.
If it is not explicitly mentioned in the offer document that the intern is a trainee as per the standing orders. PF could be attracted.
From India, Jamshedpur
It was held by the HC that the provisions of Employees’ Provident Funds and Miscellaneous Provisions act, 1952 include every person including apprentices or trainees within the purview of definition to the expression ‘employee’ except those engaged under the Apprentices Act, 1961 or Standing Orders.
If it is not explicitly mentioned in the offer document that the intern is a trainee as per the standing orders. PF could be attracted.
From India, Jamshedpur
Pls hire them under stipend as trainees. There are no statutory deductions under stipend mode Post training we can move them to CTC mode along with salary hike subject to Minimum wages
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
As Jeevaratnam has said except apprentices engaged following the Apprentice Act, 1961, all trainees by whatever name they are called and by whatever form their remuneration is paid, should be paid minimum wages and contributed PF, ESI etc. They should also be paid bonus at par with other regular workers if they have worked for the minimum qualifying days (30 days) in the preceding financial year. The period of training should also be considered for their gratuity eligibility and calculation.
If the law in this regard is diluted, there will not be any skilled workman in any organisation but everyone will manage the entire show with trainees only. There will not be any theory classes as are required as per Apprentice Act. You will also engage the trainees in the second or third shifts and ask them to do overtime. These are other tests to distinguish an apprentice under Apprentice Act and trainee engaged without following the said Act.
You need to extract work or labour but cannot give what the labourer is eligible to. This is unfair.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
If the law in this regard is diluted, there will not be any skilled workman in any organisation but everyone will manage the entire show with trainees only. There will not be any theory classes as are required as per Apprentice Act. You will also engage the trainees in the second or third shifts and ask them to do overtime. These are other tests to distinguish an apprentice under Apprentice Act and trainee engaged without following the said Act.
You need to extract work or labour but cannot give what the labourer is eligible to. This is unfair.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Friends
If any person is being engaged on [Internship] in any department and for specific period , they need not to covered under EPF or ESI.
Further if any person are engaged as Trainee on Company Rolls or Contractor's Roll even a single day, and being paid as Stipend or Salary, their wages attract EPF and ESI Contribution by the PE unless If PE has engaged those person are enaged under Apprentices Act and for Specific Period prescribed and provisioned under the Apprentice Rules Applicable.
There are no matter of Minimum Wages in case of Apprentices because they are paid Stipend as per their Own Rules on Years basis.
Thanks
From India
If any person is being engaged on [Internship] in any department and for specific period , they need not to covered under EPF or ESI.
Further if any person are engaged as Trainee on Company Rolls or Contractor's Roll even a single day, and being paid as Stipend or Salary, their wages attract EPF and ESI Contribution by the PE unless If PE has engaged those person are enaged under Apprentices Act and for Specific Period prescribed and provisioned under the Apprentice Rules Applicable.
There are no matter of Minimum Wages in case of Apprentices because they are paid Stipend as per their Own Rules on Years basis.
Thanks
From India
An intern is different from trainee. An intern is not paid salary or stipend. An intern is doing his training or internship as part of his curriculum. This is certified by the Principal of the institution. You will not give an appointment order to an inter which say that after a specified period of time your stipend will be increased!! Under an internship arrangement, there will be a company guide and a faculty to whom the intern reports periodically. In training arrangement there is no such reporting but the trainee directly reports to the officer to whom all other regular workers report.
The above things clarify that the employee in question is not an intern but a trainee only. I don't think that any IT company will engage apprentices from RI centres following Apprentice Act when they are afraid of the existing and mandatory labour laws. Such kind of engagement is very common among industries who need Welders, Fitters, Machinist, Turners etc but not in IT sector mainly because the trade they are looking for may not be available in ITIs.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
The above things clarify that the employee in question is not an intern but a trainee only. I don't think that any IT company will engage apprentices from RI centres following Apprentice Act when they are afraid of the existing and mandatory labour laws. Such kind of engagement is very common among industries who need Welders, Fitters, Machinist, Turners etc but not in IT sector mainly because the trade they are looking for may not be available in ITIs.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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