Hi All
There is another issue which we have to deal in regular basis.. Employee want to resign and wants to get relieved immediately or on the same day they resign... How to ensure that they do not take such decision.
If we do not allow them to move due to some serious reason then they just take leave join a new company and come back and then again go out.
My question here is not to stop them, every one has to rise and if he or she feels it would be in a new company then lets respect their decision but at the same time they should also not leave without knowledge transfer or task.
I hope this time I get complete support and guide me to build up a place where employee stay and move on a good note...
Thanks
Falguni
From India, Hyderabad
4There is another issue which we have to deal in regular basis.. Employee want to resign and wants to get relieved immediately or on the same day they resign... How to ensure that they do not take such decision.
If we do not allow them to move due to some serious reason then they just take leave join a new company and come back and then again go out.
My question here is not to stop them, every one has to rise and if he or she feels it would be in a new company then lets respect their decision but at the same time they should also not leave without knowledge transfer or task.
I hope this time I get complete support and guide me to build up a place where employee stay and move on a good note...
Thanks
Falguni
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Falguni,
You are right it is a critical issue faced by all HR Managers. In our organisation the notice period is three months and of course it has become a major issue for me. But in my opnion the notice period should be served, this will help both the employee and employer. The employee will not loss his money in lieu of notice period and his reputation too as the person gets enough time to handover the things properly. On the other hand the employer will get atleast some time to search for a suitable replacement. Also in my opinion the notice period should not be more than one month and the employee who is leaving should not be allowed to take any leave during this period.
I expect more views on this issue.
Thanks and regards,
Sreekanth
From United States
You are right it is a critical issue faced by all HR Managers. In our organisation the notice period is three months and of course it has become a major issue for me. But in my opnion the notice period should be served, this will help both the employee and employer. The employee will not loss his money in lieu of notice period and his reputation too as the person gets enough time to handover the things properly. On the other hand the employer will get atleast some time to search for a suitable replacement. Also in my opinion the notice period should not be more than one month and the employee who is leaving should not be allowed to take any leave during this period.
I expect more views on this issue.
Thanks and regards,
Sreekanth
From United States
Hi, I agree with Sreekanth that employee who is leaving should not be allowed to take any leave during notice period. The employee need to put their notice period according to the lengths of service.
Regards,
Sochenda
Regards,
Sochenda
Dear Falguni
Even I do agree with the other two members that the notice period should be served. This is because if an employee leaves without serving the notice period it becomes difficult to hand over the role and responsibilities and also to find a replacement for the employee who is leaving. Atleast one month's notice period is fair enough.
Regards
Himani
Even I do agree with the other two members that the notice period should be served. This is because if an employee leaves without serving the notice period it becomes difficult to hand over the role and responsibilities and also to find a replacement for the employee who is leaving. Atleast one month's notice period is fair enough.
Regards
Himani
There is another angle to notice period - The reputation of the company.
If an employee gives notice period and company does not pay him while leaving ??? Or tell him "Come after few days to clear all dues" then???
Obviously Good Companies and Good Employees are more responsible and this policy will thus be company specific. Bonds/ Contracts are mere papers and small companies/ their employess will not take them seriously.
From India, New Delhi
If an employee gives notice period and company does not pay him while leaving ??? Or tell him "Come after few days to clear all dues" then???
Obviously Good Companies and Good Employees are more responsible and this policy will thus be company specific. Bonds/ Contracts are mere papers and small companies/ their employess will not take them seriously.
From India, New Delhi
Let me tell my views.
The HR persons are not asking all type staff to join within a day or two. There may be exceptional cases. Let us assume that an accountant has left his company without serving proper notice, what the HR person should do? You mean to say he should give an advertisement, conduct the interview, finalise the formalities in one to two months time. Is it practically possible?
you should understand who started the problem. It started because the Accountant is stopped coming to office without giving notice. Then why should you blame the HR person. This is applicable to any responsible post/person not only for accountant. Everyone should realise their responsibility while joining and releving an office.
No one is holding anybody from switching over the companies.Based on one's presence only some tasks/projects/activities are planned and decided by the management and they work on that. Suppose in between the project if someone is left upruptly, then who is responsible for the delay in completing the project. How much is the financial/time loss? who is answerable to the client? what about the image of the company? No one realises all this.
Just because some company offers more salary or some of the friend is working there or some of somebody has refered the company and so on. It is ridiculous. Everyone is getting their future employment based on their present employment only. Just because of the fact that the one is already employed and working for somebody and have gained some more knowledge and experience by working in that company.
Let me see any one getting any employment by sitting at home without any employment for two to three months eventhough he/she may be possession of lots knowledge and experience.
Kindly keep one thing in mind.Some one's ex-employer might have been the worst ever character. He/She might have squeezed every staff. He/she may have betrayed than what they have promised.
They might have paid very little salary.
They may even have not deposited one's PF deduction which was deducted from the one's salary to the PF authorities. blaugh blaugh etc.
Still he/she was one's boss and who employed that one. Just because of his/her acts one wants to leave that company upruply without serving the proper notice period with the intention ofipunishing he/she, In my opinion that is a total betrayal and is equal to that of antinationlism. That is all.
Because i strongly believe that my present employment is the reward i got based on my past employment. So under any circumastances no one should leave their present employer without notice period. As we look for an alternate employment, He/She should also be allowed to make an alternative arrangement irrespective of the fact of that He/She may be worstever mankind in the world.
Regards,
S.Kumarasubramanian
From India, Madras
The HR persons are not asking all type staff to join within a day or two. There may be exceptional cases. Let us assume that an accountant has left his company without serving proper notice, what the HR person should do? You mean to say he should give an advertisement, conduct the interview, finalise the formalities in one to two months time. Is it practically possible?
you should understand who started the problem. It started because the Accountant is stopped coming to office without giving notice. Then why should you blame the HR person. This is applicable to any responsible post/person not only for accountant. Everyone should realise their responsibility while joining and releving an office.
No one is holding anybody from switching over the companies.Based on one's presence only some tasks/projects/activities are planned and decided by the management and they work on that. Suppose in between the project if someone is left upruptly, then who is responsible for the delay in completing the project. How much is the financial/time loss? who is answerable to the client? what about the image of the company? No one realises all this.
Just because some company offers more salary or some of the friend is working there or some of somebody has refered the company and so on. It is ridiculous. Everyone is getting their future employment based on their present employment only. Just because of the fact that the one is already employed and working for somebody and have gained some more knowledge and experience by working in that company.
Let me see any one getting any employment by sitting at home without any employment for two to three months eventhough he/she may be possession of lots knowledge and experience.
Kindly keep one thing in mind.Some one's ex-employer might have been the worst ever character. He/She might have squeezed every staff. He/she may have betrayed than what they have promised.
They might have paid very little salary.
They may even have not deposited one's PF deduction which was deducted from the one's salary to the PF authorities. blaugh blaugh etc.
Still he/she was one's boss and who employed that one. Just because of his/her acts one wants to leave that company upruply without serving the proper notice period with the intention ofipunishing he/she, In my opinion that is a total betrayal and is equal to that of antinationlism. That is all.
Because i strongly believe that my present employment is the reward i got based on my past employment. So under any circumastances no one should leave their present employer without notice period. As we look for an alternate employment, He/She should also be allowed to make an alternative arrangement irrespective of the fact of that He/She may be worstever mankind in the world.
Regards,
S.Kumarasubramanian
From India, Madras
Hi All
Thanks for your response. Although we all have the same level of thought but still some thing is wrong and people still leave with no time. I also agree that HR is no way responsible but HR can always help to stop this.
Now comming onto employee, tell me one simple thing, if any one of us gets a job in our dream company(assuming all have a dream company) and with a good package and they have a condition that we have to join in a short time, do you all thing we will stop and say please wait till I fininsh my notice period, I hope not.....
we should always try to try and convince the new employee and ask to talk to HR and in the same time try to get in touch with the HR, and try to find out if its possible to hire him/her in the time we need and aslo the hr should not feel bad with this call and with the employee..
Now my question is why do people change off sudden? What is going wrong that they need to move in middle of project and join a new company.
Yes in Notice period no one is allowed to take a leave and if he/she takes then what? what do we do? just a simple talk and go ahead? or shift the NP to that extent of leave he has taken.......
Waiting for your replies..
Thanks
Falguni
From India, Hyderabad
Thanks for your response. Although we all have the same level of thought but still some thing is wrong and people still leave with no time. I also agree that HR is no way responsible but HR can always help to stop this.
Now comming onto employee, tell me one simple thing, if any one of us gets a job in our dream company(assuming all have a dream company) and with a good package and they have a condition that we have to join in a short time, do you all thing we will stop and say please wait till I fininsh my notice period, I hope not.....
we should always try to try and convince the new employee and ask to talk to HR and in the same time try to get in touch with the HR, and try to find out if its possible to hire him/her in the time we need and aslo the hr should not feel bad with this call and with the employee..
Now my question is why do people change off sudden? What is going wrong that they need to move in middle of project and join a new company.
Yes in Notice period no one is allowed to take a leave and if he/she takes then what? what do we do? just a simple talk and go ahead? or shift the NP to that extent of leave he has taken.......
Waiting for your replies..
Thanks
Falguni
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Falguni,
You are absolutely right that HR is no way responsible for an employee leaving without serving the notice period. But we can stop this but for that a co-ordination is required between all HR professionals, I don;t think it is a practical thing but if everyone is ready to agree to that we can give a try. Of course some cases should be exempted from this, depending on the demand.
Yes if an employee takes leave during his notice period the NP should be extended to that much period. If all HR persons agree to do this surely we can reduce the after effect this proble.
More reviews please.
Sree
From United States
You are absolutely right that HR is no way responsible for an employee leaving without serving the notice period. But we can stop this but for that a co-ordination is required between all HR professionals, I don;t think it is a practical thing but if everyone is ready to agree to that we can give a try. Of course some cases should be exempted from this, depending on the demand.
Yes if an employee takes leave during his notice period the NP should be extended to that much period. If all HR persons agree to do this surely we can reduce the after effect this proble.
More reviews please.
Sree
From United States
Dear Falguni,
The concept of serving notice period is very helpful for the employer. If a an employee exit without giving any notice period than it will effect the smooth function of the company/organisation. But I think keeping in view the present scenario of the booming job opportunities the notice period can be reduced to 15day which I think more than sufficient for the HR to make the alternate arrangement or find suitable replacement.
The employee who is resigning without serving the notice period should not be paid F&F amt and also should not be given the experience certificate. And at the same time it has to be mad mandatory that the new company should not offer the job until they get the relieving from their new joining candidates. They also must keep one thing in view the who has done such thing(not served notice period) in his pervious job will do the same thing with his new company also.
Regards
Omar
The concept of serving notice period is very helpful for the employer. If a an employee exit without giving any notice period than it will effect the smooth function of the company/organisation. But I think keeping in view the present scenario of the booming job opportunities the notice period can be reduced to 15day which I think more than sufficient for the HR to make the alternate arrangement or find suitable replacement.
The employee who is resigning without serving the notice period should not be paid F&F amt and also should not be given the experience certificate. And at the same time it has to be mad mandatory that the new company should not offer the job until they get the relieving from their new joining candidates. They also must keep one thing in view the who has done such thing(not served notice period) in his pervious job will do the same thing with his new company also.
Regards
Omar
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