the candidate appointment letter and sal. slips along with bank statement will prove the employment with the current company, you friend needs to clear out about the intentions of the current employer and convince them.
There are other alternatives even but not of much use as they are legal hassles, and you how law works.
Professionally companies do consider. practically one of my friend (infact the one who's name this id is registered 'chaudhary') has joined one of global leader "Ad..." with out the documents and they did consider.
The major concern for the companied is the candidates talent rest all are only a paper formalities which are skipped times when they want the best.
Regards,
Akash
Insi.
There are other alternatives even but not of much use as they are legal hassles, and you how law works.
Professionally companies do consider. practically one of my friend (infact the one who's name this id is registered 'chaudhary') has joined one of global leader "Ad..." with out the documents and they did consider.
The major concern for the companied is the candidates talent rest all are only a paper formalities which are skipped times when they want the best.
Regards,
Akash
Insi.
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hi
this type of behaviour from the employer is pretty common in small time companies, but nothing to worry about as most of the organizations these days ask either for your offer / appointment letter or experience certificate.
Hence if your friend has got any of these he can present the same wherever he applies for a job
regards
Viren Negi
From India, Delhi
this type of behaviour from the employer is pretty common in small time companies, but nothing to worry about as most of the organizations these days ask either for your offer / appointment letter or experience certificate.
Hence if your friend has got any of these he can present the same wherever he applies for a job
regards
Viren Negi
From India, Delhi
YOU SHOULD PREPARE YOUR BIODATE ON THE BASIS OF YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE ORGANISATION SERVED AND SUBMIT THE SAME TO YOUR PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYER. YOU CAN STRAIGHTFORWADLY TELL THEM THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYER IS NOT ISSUING THE EXPERIENCE CERTIFICATE IN A BID TO JEOPARADISE HIS PROSPECTS. YOU SEE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENTRUSTED WITH THE TASK OF RECRUITING PEOPLE ARE WISE ENOUGH TO JUDGE THE VERACITY OF YOUR STATEMENT. EXPERIENCE IS LIKE AN AROMA WHICH CAN ALWAYS BE FELT. IF YOU KNOW THE JOB NO BODY EVEN ASK YOU TO SHOW IT BECAUSE IT IS JUST A PIECE OF WORK. EXPERIENCE ITSELF SPEAKS. SO YOUR FRINED'S CARRIER IS SAFE.
DEEPAK THUKRAL
CHANDIGARH
From India, Chandigarh
DEEPAK THUKRAL
CHANDIGARH
From India, Chandigarh
Hi,
Take the best of all messages. Don't fake the certificate. Be patient and prepare for the exit calmly. Work on two fronts simultaneously, Tell 3 bros that its a rumor and he is not leaving, parllely collect all data of PF No, money deposited, contributed to PF by employer etc. Meanwhile also try for job very hard. I would reproduce few lines published by one of the job site in their career guidance mail,....
The 4 things that you must do to be successful:
1. Read books and articles of successful people. Learn to think like them2. Read technical subject that are related to your field of trade3. Force your mind to think positive when you feel negative. 4. Safe guard your subconscious mind, as though it is your Gold Mine
From India, Pune
Take the best of all messages. Don't fake the certificate. Be patient and prepare for the exit calmly. Work on two fronts simultaneously, Tell 3 bros that its a rumor and he is not leaving, parllely collect all data of PF No, money deposited, contributed to PF by employer etc. Meanwhile also try for job very hard. I would reproduce few lines published by one of the job site in their career guidance mail,....
The 4 things that you must do to be successful:
1. Read books and articles of successful people. Learn to think like them2. Read technical subject that are related to your field of trade3. Force your mind to think positive when you feel negative. 4. Safe guard your subconscious mind, as though it is your Gold Mine
From India, Pune
Its not a new situation. It is generally rampant in small private companies, when a company does not want to let go of a valuable employee. They use such methods to retain an employee.
Best would be to use the honest approach. He should let his new employer know of the situation once he clears all stages of the interview process.
He can substantiate his case with his appointment letter, salary slips of past three months , copy of resignation letter, and names of two persons in his present company who would be willing to act as references.
Any rational person - will not hold the absence of a experience certificate against him.
Regards,
Sukhi
From India, Delhi
Best would be to use the honest approach. He should let his new employer know of the situation once he clears all stages of the interview process.
He can substantiate his case with his appointment letter, salary slips of past three months , copy of resignation letter, and names of two persons in his present company who would be willing to act as references.
Any rational person - will not hold the absence of a experience certificate against him.
Regards,
Sukhi
From India, Delhi
hi there...
i would suggest that your friend can once again try talking to his employer, and incase if they refuse to provide him the experience letter...tell him to go ahead for another company and show his appointment letter and the last drawn copy of payslip to the new emplyer. they would surely consider it. my sincere request is not to abide to any unfair means of creating a fake certificate...because this could hurt the emloyers trust. Best of Luck to your friend.
Nidhi
From India, Pune
i would suggest that your friend can once again try talking to his employer, and incase if they refuse to provide him the experience letter...tell him to go ahead for another company and show his appointment letter and the last drawn copy of payslip to the new emplyer. they would surely consider it. my sincere request is not to abide to any unfair means of creating a fake certificate...because this could hurt the emloyers trust. Best of Luck to your friend.
Nidhi
From India, Pune
Hi Sumir,
Ask your friend not to worry coz,
If he has got the rich knowledge and experience with him then he will simply clear the Interview. As far as the experience letter is concerned, he can show his Appointment letter + The Resignation letter + The Pay slip
and the IT Return copy this would more than suffice as a proof that he has worked in such an such a position.
Also, as you told that he is one of th egood performers out there, he should have received some appreciation mails from his immediate boss or the client that he is working for this E-Mail can also be a base to proove himself taht he has worked for that company.
Hope this saves him from the crisis.
Regards,
Liritta
From India, Mumbai
Ask your friend not to worry coz,
If he has got the rich knowledge and experience with him then he will simply clear the Interview. As far as the experience letter is concerned, he can show his Appointment letter + The Resignation letter + The Pay slip
and the IT Return copy this would more than suffice as a proof that he has worked in such an such a position.
Also, as you told that he is one of th egood performers out there, he should have received some appreciation mails from his immediate boss or the client that he is working for this E-Mail can also be a base to proove himself taht he has worked for that company.
Hope this saves him from the crisis.
Regards,
Liritta
From India, Mumbai
Hi
I hope this helps :
1. Nothing like leaving with a good relation, he could always convince the TRIO, that although he is leaving he would always be available for help wherever he might go. This sure would give them a feeling that if he is not relived properly, he would not assist in any matter.
2. As suggested by some, it's true that if the facts are very clearly stated at the time of interview, I am sure it would not affect his job prospects. Some companies, now a days don't even ask for a experience letter if you find the person competent enough.
3. Wherever required if he can still prove that he was working in that orgn., but the trend also is when a employee is terminated in any organisation, relieving letter nor experience letter is given, Possibly the new employer might think on these lines therefore, The 'Statement 2 is a must to convince the new employer at the time of interview.
4. The last option is going Legal, but I am not sure if that would help in getting the desired letters.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Francis
From India, Pune
I hope this helps :
1. Nothing like leaving with a good relation, he could always convince the TRIO, that although he is leaving he would always be available for help wherever he might go. This sure would give them a feeling that if he is not relived properly, he would not assist in any matter.
2. As suggested by some, it's true that if the facts are very clearly stated at the time of interview, I am sure it would not affect his job prospects. Some companies, now a days don't even ask for a experience letter if you find the person competent enough.
3. Wherever required if he can still prove that he was working in that orgn., but the trend also is when a employee is terminated in any organisation, relieving letter nor experience letter is given, Possibly the new employer might think on these lines therefore, The 'Statement 2 is a must to convince the new employer at the time of interview.
4. The last option is going Legal, but I am not sure if that would help in getting the desired letters.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Francis
From India, Pune
Dear Sumir,
Your friend's situation is difficult but not impossible to manage.
Here is a simple thing that you can do.
Explain to the management that he has personal problems and that he will have to leave come what may.
Inform the management at the same time that he is sure that he does not want to spoil relations with him before leaving.(Be sure to narrate the good that he has done for the company,,the winning moments,,and that he would like to get back to them once his problems are resolved, but he may have to shift base etc).
Tell his current employer that the experience certificate is a mere formality and that you are sure that he is not naive enough to believe that he cannot prove his worth without a certificate.
Collect any sort of documentation that proves your tenure, responsiblities, how well you performed, etc.
Be sure that they are in his possession.
Be bold and tell the Managing authority, (anyone who is a simpler nut to crack and has the signing authority)
that you are in possession of the same and that they can prove your worth in your current organization.
Request him to give the experience certificate.
He will do so, as he has to save face. He knows that its a lost cause so he would make a graceful exit. :)
Let me know if it works out.
Regards,
Shyamali
From India, Nasik
Your friend's situation is difficult but not impossible to manage.
Here is a simple thing that you can do.
Explain to the management that he has personal problems and that he will have to leave come what may.
Inform the management at the same time that he is sure that he does not want to spoil relations with him before leaving.(Be sure to narrate the good that he has done for the company,,the winning moments,,and that he would like to get back to them once his problems are resolved, but he may have to shift base etc).
Tell his current employer that the experience certificate is a mere formality and that you are sure that he is not naive enough to believe that he cannot prove his worth without a certificate.
Collect any sort of documentation that proves your tenure, responsiblities, how well you performed, etc.
Be sure that they are in his possession.
Be bold and tell the Managing authority, (anyone who is a simpler nut to crack and has the signing authority)
that you are in possession of the same and that they can prove your worth in your current organization.
Request him to give the experience certificate.
He will do so, as he has to save face. He knows that its a lost cause so he would make a graceful exit. :)
Let me know if it works out.
Regards,
Shyamali
From India, Nasik
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