Why give the Salary Slip. Ask for a package stating that I feel my worth in the market is around this & negotiate with the new employer. If they feel you are worth what you are stating/asking, they will accept you or say bye-bye. You will also know your worth. I hope this will be better than cheating.
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Hi Rajan,
This is really good courage to ask such a question in the open forum, and I appreciate your guts on this. Many small companies never verify your payslip as verification using a third party costs are very high, say about 30,000 per employee. If you are trying in any financial domain, then just drop the idea of using a fake payslip. Secondly, as it shows you are an IT guy, never approach a well-known IT company as they do third-party verification. Trust me, I know the process of verification as I have been in IT for the past 8 years and am very familiar with the verification process. If you want more info, then drop me a mail on my email address pankajvg@hotmail.com.
Best of luck,
Pankaj
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This is really good courage to ask such a question in the open forum, and I appreciate your guts on this. Many small companies never verify your payslip as verification using a third party costs are very high, say about 30,000 per employee. If you are trying in any financial domain, then just drop the idea of using a fake payslip. Secondly, as it shows you are an IT guy, never approach a well-known IT company as they do third-party verification. Trust me, I know the process of verification as I have been in IT for the past 8 years and am very familiar with the verification process. If you want more info, then drop me a mail on my email address pankajvg@hotmail.com.
Best of luck,
Pankaj
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Hi everyone,
I want to address this with a question, expressing my case. When I was working, I received a salary that was at least 1/5 of what is normally paid. I accepted it because I needed the job - it was a chance for me to prove myself and it presented a challenge. Now, as I search for another job in different companies, should I disclose my real previous salary? What will they think of me? Will they take advantage of the fact that I accepted less pay? I fear they will perceive me in a negative light, possibly viewing me as having a low profile. I have also read that HR professionals believe individuals lie about 15% of their salary.
I believe that nowadays, companies aim to hire employees at the minimum salary they can accept. However, the question remains: should we always do what is right without considering the potential consequences?
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I want to address this with a question, expressing my case. When I was working, I received a salary that was at least 1/5 of what is normally paid. I accepted it because I needed the job - it was a chance for me to prove myself and it presented a challenge. Now, as I search for another job in different companies, should I disclose my real previous salary? What will they think of me? Will they take advantage of the fact that I accepted less pay? I fear they will perceive me in a negative light, possibly viewing me as having a low profile. I have also read that HR professionals believe individuals lie about 15% of their salary.
I believe that nowadays, companies aim to hire employees at the minimum salary they can accept. However, the question remains: should we always do what is right without considering the potential consequences?
From Egypt
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Jane has given you very good advice. Look, submitting any kind of fudged document amounts to fraud, cheating, and attracts severe penal action. The "Fake Salary Slip" that you submitted may give you a very short-term gain at a VERY HIGH COST... you are jeopardizing your entire future. DO NOT RESORT TO SUCH UNLAWFUL ADVENTURES. In the present circumstances, take up the job which you have negotiated using the original Pay Slip and sleep easy. Any foundation based on falsehood will only give you a very weak superstructure which can crumble anytime... it's not worth risking. Best Wishes, Vasant Nair HR Advisor
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this is definitely a wrong step to produce fake pay slip, if they will check it then it will be difficult for you, now all depends on your luck.
Even new company can put up a case of forgery.
If any chance you have not done this till know, don’t try to do it.
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Even new company can put up a case of forgery.
If any chance you have not done this till know, don’t try to do it.
From India, Delhi
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Dear Faker, What else do you fake? Whether you will be caught or not is not the question that needs to be answered; it is when will you be caught. The way things are now, I definitely see that in the near future you are going to be strung upside down.
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Hi Rajan,
It's not about whether you could get the same salary by negotiating. Is your ability worth the salary you are expecting? In the long run, when you are in the last lap to the top of the organization, you are sure to underperform with this thought in your mind; you can never escape this.
Remember the story of Parasuraman (avatar of Vishnu). You might achieve whatever you desire in the short run, but in the long run, it will hurt for sure. Achieving is important, but the means of achieving are also very important.
OE
From India, Hyderabad
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It's not about whether you could get the same salary by negotiating. Is your ability worth the salary you are expecting? In the long run, when you are in the last lap to the top of the organization, you are sure to underperform with this thought in your mind; you can never escape this.
Remember the story of Parasuraman (avatar of Vishnu). You might achieve whatever you desire in the short run, but in the long run, it will hurt for sure. Achieving is important, but the means of achieving are also very important.
OE
From India, Hyderabad
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In such cases, I feel that the systems followed by the companies are not good. Many refer to the previous salary and set a new scale, for example, 20-30%, etc. The company must have a proper scaling system where they can fit him/her based on his/her competency and not on his previously drawn salary.
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Such is our world that the salary we get is based on our previous salary and not as per our eligibility. I have seen guys getting much more than what they deserve compared to what they should get. At the same time, I have seen profiles getting rejected just because the current salary is way too low to be eligible for the profile, though qualification and experience-wise they are perfect for the job. Such is the world we live in. I cannot think that the company would have given you this salary if you had told them your current salary. Such is the world we have chosen to live in, and such is the world we make for ourselves.
I don't say what you have done is correct, but at times we don't have any choice. Anyways, from what I see, what you can do is keep your current job and take the offer letter to your HR and see if you can negotiate with them. They might not give you the same hike, but you might get a decent raise. This will give you some peace of mind. Else, you can take someone in HR into confidence and seek their help.
Lastly, you can let the sleeping dogs lie and hope that they don't find out, but there is risk involved because as far as I know, IT companies do have a procedure of background checks, including verification of your educational documents as well as your experience and salary. How they do it depends on the company. Any third-party verification would be detailed where they would call your HR number and ask for your details or it might be a simple call from your HR to the reference number you have given where they will just ask about your job details.
You can try to find out what sort of verification they do, and based on that, you can make your decision. If possible, try getting in touch with a current employee of the company to get the details.
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I don't say what you have done is correct, but at times we don't have any choice. Anyways, from what I see, what you can do is keep your current job and take the offer letter to your HR and see if you can negotiate with them. They might not give you the same hike, but you might get a decent raise. This will give you some peace of mind. Else, you can take someone in HR into confidence and seek their help.
Lastly, you can let the sleeping dogs lie and hope that they don't find out, but there is risk involved because as far as I know, IT companies do have a procedure of background checks, including verification of your educational documents as well as your experience and salary. How they do it depends on the company. Any third-party verification would be detailed where they would call your HR number and ask for your details or it might be a simple call from your HR to the reference number you have given where they will just ask about your job details.
You can try to find out what sort of verification they do, and based on that, you can make your decision. If possible, try getting in touch with a current employee of the company to get the details.
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You need to decide whether you would rather clinch a job for a few weeks and get the sack, or remain where you are until you can get a better deal. Faking your payslip details is not a wise route. If you consider yourself to have acquired enough competencies to justify over a 100% pay rise, then renegotiate. Good luck.
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