A small survey can help you understand the health of the organization. If you think that surveys will not reveal the true picture then try chatting up with people to gauge what issues plagues them. See how you can tackle them.
Put your findings in a report along with the solutions.
This will help you get a better buy in.
Here at Kolkata the culture is very informal, but after speaking the same needs to be communicated over a mail. Now how well you communicate depends on you. It can help you save yourself from unpleasantness.
I would like to know a little bit about the initiatives that you are keen to drive. I will help you get the buy in.
From India, Nasik
15Put your findings in a report along with the solutions.
This will help you get a better buy in.
Here at Kolkata the culture is very informal, but after speaking the same needs to be communicated over a mail. Now how well you communicate depends on you. It can help you save yourself from unpleasantness.
I would like to know a little bit about the initiatives that you are keen to drive. I will help you get the buy in.
From India, Nasik
Hi Karan,
I work in an Ad Agency myself and I understand what you are going through.
I am not aware how the work environment is in your Ad Agency but in the one I am working, HR used to be seen as minimalistic deptt. who would do paper works only.
To bring about the required change you'll have to play your card right.
This is what I did when I joined about 2 years back: -
Action: I went out spoke to the people, I stopped being the lonely HR Deptt.
Result: People began confiding in me. That way I could make better plans for the employees.
Action: My reporting manager was of the opinion that HR was for recruitments only. I ran short term plans like change in the reporting time, feedback etc.
Result: (Thankfully these plans worked out). When my manager saw the positive change brought about, he understood that HR is much more than typing out letters and hiring people.
I think at the end of the day all managers want their people to be happy. Prepare a presentation alongwith your reporting manager, present it infront of the CEO, sell him a dream. The dream that happy employee=increased productivity and increased productivity=higher profits.
Do things differently but never let your reporting manager down, always keep him in the loop. Try hard to be extra pally and try to work as a team. Remember at the end of the day you wish to be an effective HR and an effective HR always promotes feeling of 'well being'.
All the best. Don't lose hope yet. These are initial hiccups, you'll have to be stronger than that.
regards
Manju
From India, New Delhi
I work in an Ad Agency myself and I understand what you are going through.
I am not aware how the work environment is in your Ad Agency but in the one I am working, HR used to be seen as minimalistic deptt. who would do paper works only.
To bring about the required change you'll have to play your card right.
This is what I did when I joined about 2 years back: -
Action: I went out spoke to the people, I stopped being the lonely HR Deptt.
Result: People began confiding in me. That way I could make better plans for the employees.
Action: My reporting manager was of the opinion that HR was for recruitments only. I ran short term plans like change in the reporting time, feedback etc.
Result: (Thankfully these plans worked out). When my manager saw the positive change brought about, he understood that HR is much more than typing out letters and hiring people.
I think at the end of the day all managers want their people to be happy. Prepare a presentation alongwith your reporting manager, present it infront of the CEO, sell him a dream. The dream that happy employee=increased productivity and increased productivity=higher profits.
Do things differently but never let your reporting manager down, always keep him in the loop. Try hard to be extra pally and try to work as a team. Remember at the end of the day you wish to be an effective HR and an effective HR always promotes feeling of 'well being'.
All the best. Don't lose hope yet. These are initial hiccups, you'll have to be stronger than that.
regards
Manju
From India, New Delhi
As long as HR cannot both contribute and show that it is contributing to the business it can never achive the status that it wants to.
From India, Nasik
From India, Nasik
DEAR SENIOR’S, KINDLY, SUGGEST ME TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENGINEERING COMPANY AND MANUFACTURING COMPANY. k.SELVI
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Well Friend,
It is very tough to survive in such a situation where most of people are unaware of the basics of your core functions. Infact a lot of time spend into showing the importance & reason of existance of your job & dept. respectively, rather doing some innventive work.
Previously i was facing the same problem, i mean my boss was not delegating work to me. I myslelf started some new work & send it to him. He even did not responded. Then i got a chance to meet up CEO at his official tour.I straightly told him about the worse position of HR & inform him that i want to work on organizational development. He not only permitted me, but he odered me to send ti to him directly. I myself make a cc to my boss, and now i am free in a situation that i can work independently & my boss in now aware that i can not only do work ,but can contact to his boss also.
I would suggest you to act upon the same
High regards,
SAM
It is very tough to survive in such a situation where most of people are unaware of the basics of your core functions. Infact a lot of time spend into showing the importance & reason of existance of your job & dept. respectively, rather doing some innventive work.
Previously i was facing the same problem, i mean my boss was not delegating work to me. I myslelf started some new work & send it to him. He even did not responded. Then i got a chance to meet up CEO at his official tour.I straightly told him about the worse position of HR & inform him that i want to work on organizational development. He not only permitted me, but he odered me to send ti to him directly. I myself make a cc to my boss, and now i am free in a situation that i can work independently & my boss in now aware that i can not only do work ,but can contact to his boss also.
I would suggest you to act upon the same
High regards,
SAM
hai,
This is not only problem of you, so many of our colliegues are facing today.You are just one among them.Don't bothr about it at all.
Your boss is not have basics in professional management.He is just money gatherer. He hires you only for fancy to show they have HR department.
You can not continue insuch buffellows managed orgnisations.They shows deff ears when you tell about proffessionalism. I suggest you to get out of that kirana store. Hope you will search for good job better suits to you
:(Be king in hell than servent in heaven:-D
Regards
N.V.Rao
From India, Delhi
This is not only problem of you, so many of our colliegues are facing today.You are just one among them.Don't bothr about it at all.
Your boss is not have basics in professional management.He is just money gatherer. He hires you only for fancy to show they have HR department.
You can not continue insuch buffellows managed orgnisations.They shows deff ears when you tell about proffessionalism. I suggest you to get out of that kirana store. Hope you will search for good job better suits to you
:(Be king in hell than servent in heaven:-D
Regards
N.V.Rao
From India, Delhi
HI Shyamali/Manju,
well the initiatives i want to drive are doing a talent audit, employee satisfaction survey, laying down a process for recruitments. i want to do resource planning, training needs analysis.
yes, i do interact with employees and am seldom confined to my seat. i conduct exit interviews which i send to my boss(and during my interaction with her i learnt that she doesn't even bother to read them, they're just filed).
one area where i tried to get immediate action taken was on salary & reimbursement payments. the salaries never come on time here, sometime they get as delayed as 6-7th of the month, which to me is unacceptable. Payroll is handled by Finance. the first 3 months, they kept giving me some vague excuse or the other and it seemed that i was the only one taking up this issue of delayed payments. when i spoek to other, a lot of them were unhappy and said that their EMI checks were getting bounced and as a result they ended up paying fines. i urged Finance to take action but they said that employees can take loan if they want and they're tring to streamline the process and it would take another 6 months! i was appalled when i heard the Delhi Head also support the Finance saying that the system now is much better and that earlier the salary would come in by 11-12th of the month! ths is when i told them as per law one must pay salary latest by 7th and since we are a professional organization, it should come in by 30th of the month!
so what i told the dissatisfied employees to mail to me and i compiled all thier mails and sent a stinker to the Finance guy. same month the problem was solved. my boss was on cc and she shared it with the CEO and the issue was resolved.
but the Finance guy spoke to all those who'd mailed me indivivually telling them never to bother emailing HR again as HR is powerless and will eventually come to him for a solution. there were emails bounced around congratulating the Finance guy for 'fixing the problem'. No one's thanked me as yet.
one day i was sharing my woes with a fellow colleague she she told me that i was being too hones to my job and that it will never be appreciated here and employees for whom i am taking so much trouble don't even care!
but you're right, i shouldn't lose hope and keep the fight on.
From India, Delhi
well the initiatives i want to drive are doing a talent audit, employee satisfaction survey, laying down a process for recruitments. i want to do resource planning, training needs analysis.
yes, i do interact with employees and am seldom confined to my seat. i conduct exit interviews which i send to my boss(and during my interaction with her i learnt that she doesn't even bother to read them, they're just filed).
one area where i tried to get immediate action taken was on salary & reimbursement payments. the salaries never come on time here, sometime they get as delayed as 6-7th of the month, which to me is unacceptable. Payroll is handled by Finance. the first 3 months, they kept giving me some vague excuse or the other and it seemed that i was the only one taking up this issue of delayed payments. when i spoek to other, a lot of them were unhappy and said that their EMI checks were getting bounced and as a result they ended up paying fines. i urged Finance to take action but they said that employees can take loan if they want and they're tring to streamline the process and it would take another 6 months! i was appalled when i heard the Delhi Head also support the Finance saying that the system now is much better and that earlier the salary would come in by 11-12th of the month! ths is when i told them as per law one must pay salary latest by 7th and since we are a professional organization, it should come in by 30th of the month!
so what i told the dissatisfied employees to mail to me and i compiled all thier mails and sent a stinker to the Finance guy. same month the problem was solved. my boss was on cc and she shared it with the CEO and the issue was resolved.
but the Finance guy spoke to all those who'd mailed me indivivually telling them never to bother emailing HR again as HR is powerless and will eventually come to him for a solution. there were emails bounced around congratulating the Finance guy for 'fixing the problem'. No one's thanked me as yet.
one day i was sharing my woes with a fellow colleague she she told me that i was being too hones to my job and that it will never be appreciated here and employees for whom i am taking so much trouble don't even care!
but you're right, i shouldn't lose hope and keep the fight on.
From India, Delhi
Hi karan,
Just got to know from your mail that you have started thr HR practices and operations of your company from scratch,though its difficult for it to get implemented due to certain issues with the top mgmt.I m presently in a similar situation of setting up HR from a scratch.Kindly tell me how did you carry on with doing what you did in your company.I m a new joinee in a trading company in oman.I do not have previous generalist HR experience.Here,they have asked me in setting up a proper HR division(practices) for the company.The company have around 150 employees and in the present system the employee files,leave handling etc are done manually,the payroll being handled by the finance dept.We wish to organise the employee files and related HR practices(from joining formalities till employee leaving the organisation) so that a one point access can be done,thus time saving the time.Please provide me a framework on how to proceed regarding this and examples regarding the areas to be covered and sufficient spreadsheets.
Kindly respond to this as soon as possible.
Thanks and regards,
lakshmi
From Oman, Muscat
Just got to know from your mail that you have started thr HR practices and operations of your company from scratch,though its difficult for it to get implemented due to certain issues with the top mgmt.I m presently in a similar situation of setting up HR from a scratch.Kindly tell me how did you carry on with doing what you did in your company.I m a new joinee in a trading company in oman.I do not have previous generalist HR experience.Here,they have asked me in setting up a proper HR division(practices) for the company.The company have around 150 employees and in the present system the employee files,leave handling etc are done manually,the payroll being handled by the finance dept.We wish to organise the employee files and related HR practices(from joining formalities till employee leaving the organisation) so that a one point access can be done,thus time saving the time.Please provide me a framework on how to proceed regarding this and examples regarding the areas to be covered and sufficient spreadsheets.
Kindly respond to this as soon as possible.
Thanks and regards,
lakshmi
From Oman, Muscat
Non-delegator bosses are very easy to find and are every where, almost in all the organizations and mostly in HR line. This is because HR as a terminology is a new concept for Indians and since last couple of years HR professionals are coming in market. traditional org's who have made HR dept for the sake of name recruited anyone-unqualified, undeserving guys and now when they become bosses of educated and professional guys they become insecure as they know that this generation is quite advanced in knowledge and can do more in comparision to them as New generation is well versed with latest terms and fundas. only way they can survive is to head by not giving clear replies. Also a typical quality is to satisfy their ego, they hire educated guys like MBA's so that they can proudly say that he/she is leading a team of _MBA's. i suggest not to bring this thing in the notice of CEO as he himself is not aware of what HR is and what HR can do as he wud hear only of ur boss and then u may have to face difficulty. this is a difficult time for you, you have two options wait for your boss to leave (if u feel she can get job) or you start looking for job where capabilities are nurtured. But you need to keep in mind that this scenerio you would find for almost another 5-7 yrs until educated and qualified people doesnt come on top. Till that time keep patience.....this is the scenerio in most of the organizations, u r not the only suferer.....:icon1:
From India
From India
Hi Ratty,
thanks for understanding my situation and actually nailing the problem! i also feel the same.
i wonder if i'll be able to find an HR role where i can actually get the satisfaction of working and making a difference! sometimes i think the only place where i can be a true HR professional is somewhere abroad.
From India, Delhi
thanks for understanding my situation and actually nailing the problem! i also feel the same.
i wonder if i'll be able to find an HR role where i can actually get the satisfaction of working and making a difference! sometimes i think the only place where i can be a true HR professional is somewhere abroad.
From India, Delhi
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