They Just Paste Their Resume For Good Openings Not For Each And Every One So We Must Have To Think According To Their Need And Try To Call Those Candidates Who R In Need For The Job Not To Each And Ewvery One It's A Wastage Of Time And Money Both Try To Contact Through Refrences As It's The Best Way To Contact The Person In A Short Span Of Time .anurag Sharma
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
I agree....some action needs to be taken. It is not just the candidates that do this. I have had some bad experiences with clients who take the search list to complete their database and refuse to pay the fees. What can one do abt such clients?
From India, New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
Sujit I feel that you are partly right on this. There could be some misuse on this. But however, i think as recruiters we would still be calling up those candidates who only have a few negative comments on their profile. But if this becomes frequent and you come across a profile where the person has had say 4 or 5 negative comments from diff ppl at that point you would consider that there has to be something negative about the person for more than a couple of ppl to write negative stuff on one persons profile.
however though the point is still that the reason for promoting a recruiters column on the jobportals is so that the candidates realize that if they are makiing false commitments to companies or recruiters then that would affect their reputation. The whole point is that the candidates should have something at stake.
From India, Lucknow
however though the point is still that the reason for promoting a recruiters column on the jobportals is so that the candidates realize that if they are makiing false commitments to companies or recruiters then that would affect their reputation. The whole point is that the candidates should have something at stake.
From India, Lucknow
I dont find anything wrong in the candidates' preference. It is the choice and their prerogative to join or not to join. As recruiters, we should be prepared to such 'surprises'. Hv a second line, prerably who evinced interest to join in a short time.No portal will add a recruiter's comment as it would de-sell their domian reputation. And as a few pointed out, there might be genuine reasons for not joining. Like all is fair in love and war, it is also equally fair on the part of the candidate to pursue a better chance - whatever it might be.RegardsSabari venkat
From India, Mumbai
2From India, Mumbai
Dear friend,
It seems you are very frustrated on someone who did not join at the exact time when you had to listen to some words of your BOSS...
See what you say is not entirely wrong but if you look at the candidates point he/she also wants to get the best in the industry and where they feel they get best they join. We can not blame them just because they do not join! Instead you should give examples of those who join the company and make you feel proud and help you in completing your targets. Its not easy to make someone join and thats why you have been hired by your company...to search the best talent and to put them in the clients company and fullfill the requirement.
I.E. If u get a offer from Bajaj Finance and later on you get an offer from Kingfisher or HSBC i am sure you will think over it and will join where you want to, right??
SO obviously thats the same psychology any candidate has got when they look out for a change.. they can not sacrifice the best in their view for the best in your view...
Hope you are getting my point... you are anyways going to put your comments the way you get the response from the candidate.... so dont feel bad..THE recruiter is someone who wins...
Watch the movie "the Recruiter" you might get a feel what it is all about!!
From India, Pune
It seems you are very frustrated on someone who did not join at the exact time when you had to listen to some words of your BOSS...
See what you say is not entirely wrong but if you look at the candidates point he/she also wants to get the best in the industry and where they feel they get best they join. We can not blame them just because they do not join! Instead you should give examples of those who join the company and make you feel proud and help you in completing your targets. Its not easy to make someone join and thats why you have been hired by your company...to search the best talent and to put them in the clients company and fullfill the requirement.
I.E. If u get a offer from Bajaj Finance and later on you get an offer from Kingfisher or HSBC i am sure you will think over it and will join where you want to, right??
SO obviously thats the same psychology any candidate has got when they look out for a change.. they can not sacrifice the best in their view for the best in your view...
Hope you are getting my point... you are anyways going to put your comments the way you get the response from the candidate.... so dont feel bad..THE recruiter is someone who wins...
Watch the movie "the Recruiter" you might get a feel what it is all about!!
From India, Pune
Hi Naveen ,
I have been in this recruitment industry for the past 1.5yrs. After having the similar experiences,I completely agree with you that the candidates turning down the offers after the things getting finalized is the most pathetic part of Recruitments.
But as others said , we can not help it.The market is quite dynamic & the number of options for an intelligent profile is not less. Also it depends on the kind of sector you are recruiting for. In IT & ITES sector, these things are very common.You put yourself in the candidates' place & think of weighing between N offers- finalizing the best of them according to your thoughts & comfort. Surely one has the right & freedom to do that.
The suggestion given by you about adding recruiters' comments on the job boards ....I think can have +ve as well as -ve repurcursions.
What do you suggest Naveen :?:
From India, Hyderabad
I have been in this recruitment industry for the past 1.5yrs. After having the similar experiences,I completely agree with you that the candidates turning down the offers after the things getting finalized is the most pathetic part of Recruitments.
But as others said , we can not help it.The market is quite dynamic & the number of options for an intelligent profile is not less. Also it depends on the kind of sector you are recruiting for. In IT & ITES sector, these things are very common.You put yourself in the candidates' place & think of weighing between N offers- finalizing the best of them according to your thoughts & comfort. Surely one has the right & freedom to do that.
The suggestion given by you about adding recruiters' comments on the job boards ....I think can have +ve as well as -ve repurcursions.
- It depends on the kind of requirements & availability of the number of suitable profiles in the job market. If the candidate is technically very sound & confident about his skills & his kind of profiles are less in the market & he himself knows about this fact, then he can play games !!!
- Think of a situation , where the mentality of the recruiter is itself not good.After seeing the fellow recruiters' comments , he does not do any hardwork in sourcing He only searches for the profiles which have been proven technically sound by the other employers & convinces them to come for counter offers !!!
What do you suggest Naveen :?:
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Naveen,
the recruiter is looking for potential and talent candidate and the candidat is same is looking for good workplace so when we call the candidate for interview we should but in our mind that the candidate is sending his CV to many companies and maybe he will take our offer or turn it up so we should be prepared therefore we are shortlisting more that three candidates for the position and this is the recruiter's job.
thanks and regards,
sumawed
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
the recruiter is looking for potential and talent candidate and the candidat is same is looking for good workplace so when we call the candidate for interview we should but in our mind that the candidate is sending his CV to many companies and maybe he will take our offer or turn it up so we should be prepared therefore we are shortlisting more that three candidates for the position and this is the recruiter's job.
thanks and regards,
sumawed
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
I have seen a lot of times that people from South India dont actually want to relocate to other sides but they attend interviews and once they get offer they tell that they want to stay in Sounth India only.
And this is really not good when you know you dont want to go to Mumbai or Pune why you attend interviews .
when a recruiter feels his/her candidat is getting through interview rounds he/she concentrates her efforts on that candidate .
From India, Pune
And this is really not good when you know you dont want to go to Mumbai or Pune why you attend interviews .
when a recruiter feels his/her candidat is getting through interview rounds he/she concentrates her efforts on that candidate .
From India, Pune
Dear Naveen
First off all I am surprised to see an experienced person saying this, however, let me ask you how much time have you / would you take, to do these aspects which you have mentioned i.e. time, energy and Finalizing a candidate, have you questioned yourself if you have given enough time to know his requirements before hand.
This is a career not any whim and fancy to take a call just like that, there might be a strong / good reason for a candidate not to take an offer.
Fresher and uneducated person doesn’t know the market well, he sees it through you, so you would be the lucky one for him, it’s the other way round for an experienced person.
I saw most of the replies and found most of the people here are having positive frame of mind which is very good.
I don’t think so, only person effected is you I guess, let me give you an example you are working with fire and you have burnt your hands, and you want to make sure every one knows this which is good, however there are precautions mentioned before hand how to handle it, let it be a small flame / big flame, if you have faced some thing make sure you find ways to come out of it too. Rather than ask / suggest to change the system.
As it’s easy to bring a change in you compared to bringing a change in the system,
which is going to be tough.
It is not a matter of agreement; it’s a matter of business and management for Job portals.
There are many other factors to be considered too, what if he is not given the opportunity, would he be given an opportunity to write comments on recruiter too. You got to look at both sides of it.
I am catering to International market and even I see this often happening, so I take the precautions to talk to candidate at least 45 to 60 Minutes in first few interactions to make sure I understand him well, I would be the one who would drop the candidate rather he drops on the offer.
I think Job portal team cannot even consider this as they are not getting paid by recruiters, neither by candidates, it’s a free service which is been utilized / used by a candidate. Once this sort of things starts its going to adversely effect the Job Boards and they would not be used, which is going to be a hit, you got to look at from a management perspective also.
So what I think is, you got to learn from mistakes and make sure you become cautious and aware of things as you move on..
Though I am very new compared to what you are, I am hardly 3-4 months old in recruiting, and I want to share my views, kindly acknowledge my views if you find then interesting, if not kindly hang on for the better view to hit your question.
All The Best !!!
Thanks & Regards
Justin
From India, Hyderabad
First off all I am surprised to see an experienced person saying this, however, let me ask you how much time have you / would you take, to do these aspects which you have mentioned i.e. time, energy and Finalizing a candidate, have you questioned yourself if you have given enough time to know his requirements before hand.
This is a career not any whim and fancy to take a call just like that, there might be a strong / good reason for a candidate not to take an offer.
Fresher and uneducated person doesn’t know the market well, he sees it through you, so you would be the lucky one for him, it’s the other way round for an experienced person.
I saw most of the replies and found most of the people here are having positive frame of mind which is very good.
I don’t think so, only person effected is you I guess, let me give you an example you are working with fire and you have burnt your hands, and you want to make sure every one knows this which is good, however there are precautions mentioned before hand how to handle it, let it be a small flame / big flame, if you have faced some thing make sure you find ways to come out of it too. Rather than ask / suggest to change the system.
As it’s easy to bring a change in you compared to bringing a change in the system,
which is going to be tough.
It is not a matter of agreement; it’s a matter of business and management for Job portals.
There are many other factors to be considered too, what if he is not given the opportunity, would he be given an opportunity to write comments on recruiter too. You got to look at both sides of it.
I am catering to International market and even I see this often happening, so I take the precautions to talk to candidate at least 45 to 60 Minutes in first few interactions to make sure I understand him well, I would be the one who would drop the candidate rather he drops on the offer.
I think Job portal team cannot even consider this as they are not getting paid by recruiters, neither by candidates, it’s a free service which is been utilized / used by a candidate. Once this sort of things starts its going to adversely effect the Job Boards and they would not be used, which is going to be a hit, you got to look at from a management perspective also.
So what I think is, you got to learn from mistakes and make sure you become cautious and aware of things as you move on..
Though I am very new compared to what you are, I am hardly 3-4 months old in recruiting, and I want to share my views, kindly acknowledge my views if you find then interesting, if not kindly hang on for the better view to hit your question.
All The Best !!!
Thanks & Regards
Justin
From India, Hyderabad
Hi,
i totally agree to your point.. There should be some section or comment of recruiters which the candidate can read and understand..
Otherwise recruiters do so much effort and at last there is a drop out..sucha stupid behaviour by candidates.. i really hate such candidates who just come for time pass and just to judge there capability and r not serious at all...
Thanks
Divya
Kelly services
From India, Delhi
i totally agree to your point.. There should be some section or comment of recruiters which the candidate can read and understand..
Otherwise recruiters do so much effort and at last there is a drop out..sucha stupid behaviour by candidates.. i really hate such candidates who just come for time pass and just to judge there capability and r not serious at all...
Thanks
Divya
Kelly services
From India, Delhi
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