@Keshav Pillai &Jagdish Patel
Dear Sir's
As per your opinion what a Safety Officer must do if his suggestions/recommendations not taken seriously by the company and not implementing the same...
Anything else than trying job in another company thinking of not getting self satisfaction from the job...
From India
713Dear Sir's
As per your opinion what a Safety Officer must do if his suggestions/recommendations not taken seriously by the company and not implementing the same...
Anything else than trying job in another company thinking of not getting self satisfaction from the job...
From India
Dear all, Good inputs. I request all members to come forward with their valuble inputs. Srinivasa Rao. M
From India, Calcutta
From India, Calcutta
Dear Dipil,
What one will do if suggestions/recommendations are not accepted ?
Instead of having a general statement like this let us take few examples and analyze.
If you have, post a case from your experience with relevant details.
Majority of safety officers ask the same question too, but why ?
They get frustrated with this –but why ?
Most suggestions /recommendations if justifiable I can not see reason why it gets rejected. In few cases it for economic reasons. All other cases S.O. fails to provide justification, all the data required for decision making and so on.
My request is try to complete the power point presentation I have given in under this title on the previous page. A good reason for failures can be seen from it.
My advice to S.O. is - “never get frustrated and for this reason seek another employment.
Take it as a challenge. Get it implemented. You may ask how. It is an art. It is not easy but possible.
After getting ppt completed at least by one I will explain.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
What one will do if suggestions/recommendations are not accepted ?
Instead of having a general statement like this let us take few examples and analyze.
If you have, post a case from your experience with relevant details.
Majority of safety officers ask the same question too, but why ?
They get frustrated with this –but why ?
Most suggestions /recommendations if justifiable I can not see reason why it gets rejected. In few cases it for economic reasons. All other cases S.O. fails to provide justification, all the data required for decision making and so on.
My request is try to complete the power point presentation I have given in under this title on the previous page. A good reason for failures can be seen from it.
My advice to S.O. is - “never get frustrated and for this reason seek another employment.
Take it as a challenge. Get it implemented. You may ask how. It is an art. It is not easy but possible.
After getting ppt completed at least by one I will explain.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
@Keshav Pillai
Dear Sir
Thanks a lot for your input...
Again I am requesting you to give some idea on how to go ahead with the ppt... What all topics to consider... Just give your idea... Few headings please...
Now regarding not complying with the recommendation given... I will tell about one of my previous company...The work was well sinking... For that normally grab crane with grab bucket we were using... As and when the work progress one of the contractor brings a Winch Mounting arragement... The installtion was horrible... They use a wooden post of approx. 10 meter and another wooden piece as a projection... Then with the help of pulleys they make the arragement which help to lower the grab bucket... i hope you understand the situtaion...
My 1st recommendation was a grab crane instead of this...
Secondly I said i will accept this if anyone of you can produce a certificate of fitness of the entire arragement from a competant person...
Thirdly I said, if any of the above make done, I will not visit this particular site, and will not be responsible for any untowered happening...
Ultimately the third thing happened... The work get completed without any incident just because of the grace of God... Even the director of the company says me, it's not possible to deploy a crane... I also strictly say i will not go to this particular site and witness for something unsafe... he also agrees my condition, and for the mean time give me other assignment... I hope i tried my level best... But fails in get the things done...
Awaiting to hear from you...
From India
Dear Sir
Thanks a lot for your input...
Again I am requesting you to give some idea on how to go ahead with the ppt... What all topics to consider... Just give your idea... Few headings please...
Now regarding not complying with the recommendation given... I will tell about one of my previous company...The work was well sinking... For that normally grab crane with grab bucket we were using... As and when the work progress one of the contractor brings a Winch Mounting arragement... The installtion was horrible... They use a wooden post of approx. 10 meter and another wooden piece as a projection... Then with the help of pulleys they make the arragement which help to lower the grab bucket... i hope you understand the situtaion...
My 1st recommendation was a grab crane instead of this...
Secondly I said i will accept this if anyone of you can produce a certificate of fitness of the entire arragement from a competant person...
Thirdly I said, if any of the above make done, I will not visit this particular site, and will not be responsible for any untowered happening...
Ultimately the third thing happened... The work get completed without any incident just because of the grace of God... Even the director of the company says me, it's not possible to deploy a crane... I also strictly say i will not go to this particular site and witness for something unsafe... he also agrees my condition, and for the mean time give me other assignment... I hope i tried my level best... But fails in get the things done...
Awaiting to hear from you...
From India
Dear Dipil,
I am waiting for some one to try with ppt.
You are the onely one who made an attempt.
I am adding a few more slides.
You may better try and I am sure you can do it !
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
I am waiting for some one to try with ppt.
You are the onely one who made an attempt.
I am adding a few more slides.
You may better try and I am sure you can do it !
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
Dear Sir
I have added few data into the presentaion...
I know it's still un-complete... Looking froward to hear your comments about the addedd info...
Also awaiting to hear your comments, advice and the real intention behind bringing this for a discussion.
Thanks in advance.
From India
I have added few data into the presentaion...
I know it's still un-complete... Looking froward to hear your comments about the addedd info...
Also awaiting to hear your comments, advice and the real intention behind bringing this for a discussion.
Thanks in advance.
From India
The role and RESPONSIBILITY of SHO would be
Advises and prepares Safety Improvement Plans for the year in consultation with the Apex
Safety Committee and General Works Manager
2. Checks and evaluates the effectiveness of the action taken or proposed to is taken to prevent
personal injuries
3. Coordinates and conducts all safety studies
4. Incorporates work permits / LOTO, wherever required, and monitors compliance against the
same
5. Advises the purchase and stores department in ensuring high quality and availability of
personal protective equipment
6. Advises and carries out plant safety inspections in order to observe the physical conditions of
work and the work practices and procedures followed by the workers and to render advice on
measures to is adopted for removing unsafe physical conditions and preventing unsafe
actions by workers
7. Prepares safety audit, safety inspection and safety training calendar schedules for the year
8. Renders matters related to reporting and investigation of industrial accidents and diseases to
inspectorate of factories.
Facilitates accident and dangerous occurrence investigation
10. Advises and maintains all records as are necessary relating to accidents, dangerous
occurrences and industrial diseases
11. Coordinates the departmental safety committee meetings and the Apex Safety Committee
Meetings in coordination with safety coordinators and safety representatives
12. Organizes in association with the concerned departments campaigns, competitions, contests
and other activities which will develop and maintain the interest of the workers in establishing
and maintaining safe conditions of work and procedures
13. Actively participates in the activities carried out regarding the safety in the concerned
industrial area.
14. Liaisons with certifying bodies and ensures reporting of statutory compliances to the General
Works Manager.
15. Ensures MSDS availability of all chemical used in the plant and to disseminate information to
all employees.
16. Updates all safety documents as per statutory requirements, or otherwise
17. Coordinates all amendment requests to the Asian Paints Safety Manual.
18. Audits fire fighting equipment, periodically, in coordination with the Senior Manager - Plant
Engineering and the Manager - Security. However primary responsibility of its upkeep is with
the Safety Officer. Monthly report of these checks is given to the General Works Manager by
the Safety Officer.
Safety Officer is never required or permitted to do any work which is inconsistent with or
detrimental to the performance of the duties mentioned above
From India, Hyderabad
Advises and prepares Safety Improvement Plans for the year in consultation with the Apex
Safety Committee and General Works Manager
2. Checks and evaluates the effectiveness of the action taken or proposed to is taken to prevent
personal injuries
3. Coordinates and conducts all safety studies
4. Incorporates work permits / LOTO, wherever required, and monitors compliance against the
same
5. Advises the purchase and stores department in ensuring high quality and availability of
personal protective equipment
6. Advises and carries out plant safety inspections in order to observe the physical conditions of
work and the work practices and procedures followed by the workers and to render advice on
measures to is adopted for removing unsafe physical conditions and preventing unsafe
actions by workers
7. Prepares safety audit, safety inspection and safety training calendar schedules for the year
8. Renders matters related to reporting and investigation of industrial accidents and diseases to
inspectorate of factories.
Facilitates accident and dangerous occurrence investigation
10. Advises and maintains all records as are necessary relating to accidents, dangerous
occurrences and industrial diseases
11. Coordinates the departmental safety committee meetings and the Apex Safety Committee
Meetings in coordination with safety coordinators and safety representatives
12. Organizes in association with the concerned departments campaigns, competitions, contests
and other activities which will develop and maintain the interest of the workers in establishing
and maintaining safe conditions of work and procedures
13. Actively participates in the activities carried out regarding the safety in the concerned
industrial area.
14. Liaisons with certifying bodies and ensures reporting of statutory compliances to the General
Works Manager.
15. Ensures MSDS availability of all chemical used in the plant and to disseminate information to
all employees.
16. Updates all safety documents as per statutory requirements, or otherwise
17. Coordinates all amendment requests to the Asian Paints Safety Manual.
18. Audits fire fighting equipment, periodically, in coordination with the Senior Manager - Plant
Engineering and the Manager - Security. However primary responsibility of its upkeep is with
the Safety Officer. Monthly report of these checks is given to the General Works Manager by
the Safety Officer.
Safety Officer is never required or permitted to do any work which is inconsistent with or
detrimental to the performance of the duties mentioned above
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Safety Professionals,
Please find below the news of recent fire/explosion occurred in chemical factory located at Nandesari, Vadodara district. The company was having ISO 9001/14001, OHSAS 18001 certifications??? The police have registered offence under IPC section 304 & arrested company’s safety/security officer.
The moral of the incident is: We all are safety professionals & many of us are deputed in factories hence we have to be very cautious & keep all our internal/external safety related communications like reporting unsafe act/conditions, statutory non-compliances etc. in written & always keep hard copies of such specific communications with us which can certainly help us if trapped in such situations. Under section 101 (Exemption of occupier or manager from liability in certain cases) of Factories Act, the occupier or manager can escape from the charges & held some one else responsible/actual offender (he can be a safety officer!!!) in the court.
Explosion in chemical factory: One killed, seven injured
Vadodara: A series of explosions at a chemical factory in the Gujarat Industrial Development Corporation (GIDC) premises at Nandesari killed one worker and injured seven others, including the plant supervisor, on Monday morning.
The mishap occurred at K-Dac Chemicals, owned by Vadodara businessman Laxmikant Gaud, at 5 am, when the night shift was about to end. The boiler contained synthetic aromatic chemicals and silica.
Plant supervisor Jatin Joshi said Jagadish Gohil from Fazalpur died in the second explosion while trying to close the valve near the boiler section after the first explosion had occurred. His body was flung several feet away killing him instantly. Seven others sustained injuries as the blast scattered glass in all directions.
"Thirty-five workers had just evacuated the premises after finishing work when the first explosion occurred. Gohil ran towards the boiler trying to switch off the valve and died in the second explosion. Some of our workers sustained injuries when glass flew in all directions from the boiler. The fire spread to the other parts quickly," said Joshi.
Four of the injured were from the neighbouring shed who were asleep at the time of the explosion. The injured workers have been admitted to the Shreeji Hospital near Chhani Jakatnaka in Vadodara.
Vadodara Municipal Corporation officials said seven fire tenders were rushed from Vadodara to douse the blaze.
"A 25-member squad was formed to tackle the fire. The presence of hazardous chemicals in the factory premises kept the blaze alive for four to five hours," said H J Taparia, Chief Fire Officer, VMC.
Vadodara Collector Vijay Nehra said the Joint Director of Department of Industrial Safety and Health and Vadodara police will investigate the accident. "We are not directly conducting any inquiry, but the joint director of industrial safety and health will submit the report to the Collector's office after investigating the cause of the blast. The Vadodara police will investigate the incident that led to the death of one worker," said Nehra.
According to the various government agencies, this was the fourth such accident at a chemical unit in Nandesari GIDC.
Assistant Commissioner of Police Rakesh Sharma said: "We have started the preliminary investigation on the cause of the fire, including the shift timings of the workers and the safety norms followed by the owners of the factory."
Kantibhai Gohil, brother of the deceased worker said workers in the unit dealt with hazardous chemicals like hydrogen peroxide without basic safety requirements. The company uses hazardous chemicals like hydrogen peroxide, DMS, acetic acid, caustic soda, Hydrochloric Acid, Sodium Bicarbonate and has 200 metric tonnes of production capacity for aromatic substances.
The factory inspectors have now issued a prohibitory order against K Dac Chemicals from setting up the plant again.
"We have issued the prohibitory orders against the company that before they set up the plant anywhere, they must file a safety report. To further ascertain the cause of the fire, our team will examine the site on Wednesday," said P M Shah, Factory Inspector, Department of Industrial Safety and Health.
Nandesari Industries Association President, Babubhai Patel said the association should be empowered to keep strict vigil on the plants for safety regulations.
"We always tell our member industries to follow the safety precautions while operating with hazardous chemicals. But we cannot stop anyone from manufacturing, as we do not have the authority to do anything," said Patel.
Source: The Indian Express/IANS
Regards,
Dilip kasar.
From India, Pune
Please find below the news of recent fire/explosion occurred in chemical factory located at Nandesari, Vadodara district. The company was having ISO 9001/14001, OHSAS 18001 certifications??? The police have registered offence under IPC section 304 & arrested company’s safety/security officer.
The moral of the incident is: We all are safety professionals & many of us are deputed in factories hence we have to be very cautious & keep all our internal/external safety related communications like reporting unsafe act/conditions, statutory non-compliances etc. in written & always keep hard copies of such specific communications with us which can certainly help us if trapped in such situations. Under section 101 (Exemption of occupier or manager from liability in certain cases) of Factories Act, the occupier or manager can escape from the charges & held some one else responsible/actual offender (he can be a safety officer!!!) in the court.
Explosion in chemical factory: One killed, seven injured
Vadodara: A series of explosions at a chemical factory in the Gujarat Industrial Development Corporation (GIDC) premises at Nandesari killed one worker and injured seven others, including the plant supervisor, on Monday morning.
The mishap occurred at K-Dac Chemicals, owned by Vadodara businessman Laxmikant Gaud, at 5 am, when the night shift was about to end. The boiler contained synthetic aromatic chemicals and silica.
Plant supervisor Jatin Joshi said Jagadish Gohil from Fazalpur died in the second explosion while trying to close the valve near the boiler section after the first explosion had occurred. His body was flung several feet away killing him instantly. Seven others sustained injuries as the blast scattered glass in all directions.
"Thirty-five workers had just evacuated the premises after finishing work when the first explosion occurred. Gohil ran towards the boiler trying to switch off the valve and died in the second explosion. Some of our workers sustained injuries when glass flew in all directions from the boiler. The fire spread to the other parts quickly," said Joshi.
Four of the injured were from the neighbouring shed who were asleep at the time of the explosion. The injured workers have been admitted to the Shreeji Hospital near Chhani Jakatnaka in Vadodara.
Vadodara Municipal Corporation officials said seven fire tenders were rushed from Vadodara to douse the blaze.
"A 25-member squad was formed to tackle the fire. The presence of hazardous chemicals in the factory premises kept the blaze alive for four to five hours," said H J Taparia, Chief Fire Officer, VMC.
Vadodara Collector Vijay Nehra said the Joint Director of Department of Industrial Safety and Health and Vadodara police will investigate the accident. "We are not directly conducting any inquiry, but the joint director of industrial safety and health will submit the report to the Collector's office after investigating the cause of the blast. The Vadodara police will investigate the incident that led to the death of one worker," said Nehra.
According to the various government agencies, this was the fourth such accident at a chemical unit in Nandesari GIDC.
Assistant Commissioner of Police Rakesh Sharma said: "We have started the preliminary investigation on the cause of the fire, including the shift timings of the workers and the safety norms followed by the owners of the factory."
Kantibhai Gohil, brother of the deceased worker said workers in the unit dealt with hazardous chemicals like hydrogen peroxide without basic safety requirements. The company uses hazardous chemicals like hydrogen peroxide, DMS, acetic acid, caustic soda, Hydrochloric Acid, Sodium Bicarbonate and has 200 metric tonnes of production capacity for aromatic substances.
The factory inspectors have now issued a prohibitory order against K Dac Chemicals from setting up the plant again.
"We have issued the prohibitory orders against the company that before they set up the plant anywhere, they must file a safety report. To further ascertain the cause of the fire, our team will examine the site on Wednesday," said P M Shah, Factory Inspector, Department of Industrial Safety and Health.
Nandesari Industries Association President, Babubhai Patel said the association should be empowered to keep strict vigil on the plants for safety regulations.
"We always tell our member industries to follow the safety precautions while operating with hazardous chemicals. But we cannot stop anyone from manufacturing, as we do not have the authority to do anything," said Patel.
Source: The Indian Express/IANS
Regards,
Dilip kasar.
From India, Pune
Dear Kesav sir,
I will try to post Todays safety officer PPT ASAP.I am not get time to prepare PPT.Hopefully i will come with my inputs (whether its right or wrong). . .
Dear Hari & dipil,
Thanks for ur inputs. . .
Thanks & Besafe
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
I will try to post Todays safety officer PPT ASAP.I am not get time to prepare PPT.Hopefully i will come with my inputs (whether its right or wrong). . .
Dear Hari & dipil,
Thanks for ur inputs. . .
Thanks & Besafe
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
Dear All,
Finaly what is the next step if a POLICE filed complaint against safety officer under 407A. Is he free to fight indipendantly or he has to step forward as guidance of management.
In case of Unsafe conditions to work - Fatal accident may or may not pointing safety officer's role
In case of Unsafe Action - FAtal Accident, safey officer not at all asked for his role. The executer under which the work executes is totaly responsible for the incident.
From India, Anjar
Finaly what is the next step if a POLICE filed complaint against safety officer under 407A. Is he free to fight indipendantly or he has to step forward as guidance of management.
In case of Unsafe conditions to work - Fatal accident may or may not pointing safety officer's role
In case of Unsafe Action - FAtal Accident, safey officer not at all asked for his role. The executer under which the work executes is totaly responsible for the incident.
From India, Anjar
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