I do not remember, how many times we have discussed this topic on CiteHR.
Just like any other profession, even in HR, the driving force is passion. One must have passion to work as a HR Professionals. One must be aware of the perquisites, required to be successful as a HR professional.
Unlike, any other professions, we do not have institutes providing HR education at graduation level. If you want to do your MBA from a good institute, you need to pass entrance test. Anyone can take that entrance and join the course. If you have graduation is psychology or Human behaviour or statistics or even BBA, it helps, but as I said...it’s purely based on your ability to clear the entrance.
To be successful in this profession, HR should understand the business and skill sets required to be successful in that industry. They should have very good knowledge of statistics and Income Tax. Fairly good exposure to Human Behaviour Science (Psychology) and Labour Laws. These are the skills, you will find in almost all the SUCCESSFUL HR Professionals, across the world.
What type of HR Professional a company will hire, depends upon the budget of the company (management) and the role that they expect the HR to play in their organization. Good HR Professionals, comes with a PRICE TAG.
I hope, this will address your concern to a large extent. If you still have any concern, feel free to mail me at
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Regards
Sanjeev
From India, Mumbai
94Just like any other profession, even in HR, the driving force is passion. One must have passion to work as a HR Professionals. One must be aware of the perquisites, required to be successful as a HR professional.
Unlike, any other professions, we do not have institutes providing HR education at graduation level. If you want to do your MBA from a good institute, you need to pass entrance test. Anyone can take that entrance and join the course. If you have graduation is psychology or Human behaviour or statistics or even BBA, it helps, but as I said...it’s purely based on your ability to clear the entrance.
To be successful in this profession, HR should understand the business and skill sets required to be successful in that industry. They should have very good knowledge of statistics and Income Tax. Fairly good exposure to Human Behaviour Science (Psychology) and Labour Laws. These are the skills, you will find in almost all the SUCCESSFUL HR Professionals, across the world.
What type of HR Professional a company will hire, depends upon the budget of the company (management) and the role that they expect the HR to play in their organization. Good HR Professionals, comes with a PRICE TAG.
I hope, this will address your concern to a large extent. If you still have any concern, feel free to mail me at
Regards
Sanjeev
From India, Mumbai
Hi All,
Really a nice topic for discussion.
As per my opinion, I feel that qualification is a must to be a good HR professional.
Be it in any graduation degree and then doing an MSW-HR or MBA-HR or PDG-HRM, you will have to apply all the theoritical knowledge in your practical work life and more over it is more suggested.....
" that to be a good HR, one should have the plus point of a BA sociology and economics back ground as its the real base for HR's and moreover, doing MSW-HR is also very good as you are learning real HR in the fieldwork throughout your two years course which also builds a strong base to
1. learning
2. knowledge
3. professionalism
4. attitude.
5. Psychological understanding
Im not talking only about your project work time, but also during the 4 semester of MSW, you have a whole lot of practical knowledge in the field than in the classroom which is absolutely beneficial, This really helps MSW's to be good HR professionals once they are out of college.
i'm not saying that MSWs are far better than MBAs.
MBA-HR are equally good professionals.
Today scenario, we find more enggineering qualification background plus an MBA-HR, are gaining importance!!!!
As they have both technical as well as management knowledge!!!!
Now i also find that most companies do not require candidates with extra added qualification, ie, any graduates can be HRs....
for example, my friend who has done grads in hotel management and now working as HR in as IT company.....
so where is the real professionalism of HR in companies who hire candidates like this ????????
From India, Bangalore
Really a nice topic for discussion.
As per my opinion, I feel that qualification is a must to be a good HR professional.
Be it in any graduation degree and then doing an MSW-HR or MBA-HR or PDG-HRM, you will have to apply all the theoritical knowledge in your practical work life and more over it is more suggested.....
" that to be a good HR, one should have the plus point of a BA sociology and economics back ground as its the real base for HR's and moreover, doing MSW-HR is also very good as you are learning real HR in the fieldwork throughout your two years course which also builds a strong base to
1. learning
2. knowledge
3. professionalism
4. attitude.
5. Psychological understanding
Im not talking only about your project work time, but also during the 4 semester of MSW, you have a whole lot of practical knowledge in the field than in the classroom which is absolutely beneficial, This really helps MSW's to be good HR professionals once they are out of college.
i'm not saying that MSWs are far better than MBAs.
MBA-HR are equally good professionals.
Today scenario, we find more enggineering qualification background plus an MBA-HR, are gaining importance!!!!
As they have both technical as well as management knowledge!!!!
Now i also find that most companies do not require candidates with extra added qualification, ie, any graduates can be HRs....
for example, my friend who has done grads in hotel management and now working as HR in as IT company.....
so where is the real professionalism of HR in companies who hire candidates like this ????????
From India, Bangalore
You are true, because of these HR, they do anything without proper education / knowledge which makes employees hate all HR...
We need to do something about this and first all HR need to be trained on how to do their job.
From India, Pune
We need to do something about this and first all HR need to be trained on how to do their job.
From India, Pune
Hello Ravi,
I agree that education is essential but the other thing i firly believe is
That more learned ppl make it more complicated and that makes it more hated by the other non HR ppl as every thing that HR says or implies on them for their own betterment is out of their understanding...
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Regards,
From India, Ahmadabad
I agree that education is essential but the other thing i firly believe is
That more learned ppl make it more complicated and that makes it more hated by the other non HR ppl as every thing that HR says or implies on them for their own betterment is out of their understanding...
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Regards,
From India, Ahmadabad
HAH, ,
ITs not the case only with you , ,but with lots of HR persons, who dont get jobs even after MBA,,
and these jobs go to graduates, and 12 pass persons,,,
What to say this is our bad luck or HR is like this only.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
From India, Pune
ITs not the case only with you , ,but with lots of HR persons, who dont get jobs even after MBA,,
and these jobs go to graduates, and 12 pass persons,,,
What to say this is our bad luck or HR is like this only.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
From India, Pune
yes it’s nothing but only bad luck of mine, & of all freshers also, anyways we can think positive as we are in mgmt. field!!! 8) :)
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
till what time you will tell yourself and be content that THINK POSITIVE and THINK POSITIV just some time ago ur mood was sad,,,
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
dats what i am thinking ,, once i get to know what to do ill tell u.. :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
I guess the Companies that specialise in certain technical/ manufactured product, need to get specifically qualified and experienced persons, as such, say engineer etc shall better be able to recruit right person of various categories and levels for such organisation.
Even otherwise, where there is an HR head with speciality in HR matters, it shall be appropriate for him to have Technically qualified personnel for interviews/ selection of the staff. Recruitment can be a critical tool in any business process.
In manufacturing concerns it could be stated that "an Engineer can become an HR person, an HR person rarely ever will become an Engineer".
An Engineer if qualified in HR as well, would fit in the job like 'round peg and round hole'
This is just one view. Should we brainstorm further, I guess the strengths and limitations of each of the options shall be clearer. Let us get this right, it depends upon many a factors, such as organisation's nature, its culture and types of people it employs, which shall dictate, which option shall be more suitable for that organisation
Regards all,
Pradeep Bajaj
From India, Delhi
Even otherwise, where there is an HR head with speciality in HR matters, it shall be appropriate for him to have Technically qualified personnel for interviews/ selection of the staff. Recruitment can be a critical tool in any business process.
In manufacturing concerns it could be stated that "an Engineer can become an HR person, an HR person rarely ever will become an Engineer".
An Engineer if qualified in HR as well, would fit in the job like 'round peg and round hole'
This is just one view. Should we brainstorm further, I guess the strengths and limitations of each of the options shall be clearer. Let us get this right, it depends upon many a factors, such as organisation's nature, its culture and types of people it employs, which shall dictate, which option shall be more suitable for that organisation
Regards all,
Pradeep Bajaj
From India, Delhi
I am surprised to read all of this that most of the participants of this discussion are considering HR as just the "Recruitment" and thus if HR person don't have technical knowledge of engineering etc then what's the problem in it.
Please consider other many areas of HR which are Training & Development, Performance Management System,Compensation & Benefits, Career Mangement & Succession Planning...etc. Do you think that an engineer may get expertise of all these areas.
Hiring or recruitment is only one function whereas consider all of these as well then you will come to know that HR is itself a technical area and could be mastered only if you are true HR Professional not an engineer.
Whereas if you are considering Hiring as HR then it can be done by a simple Graduate as well after getting some experience.
Hope I may anwer and clarify my point of view.
Regards
Khalid
From Pakistan, Lahore
Please consider other many areas of HR which are Training & Development, Performance Management System,Compensation & Benefits, Career Mangement & Succession Planning...etc. Do you think that an engineer may get expertise of all these areas.
Hiring or recruitment is only one function whereas consider all of these as well then you will come to know that HR is itself a technical area and could be mastered only if you are true HR Professional not an engineer.
Whereas if you are considering Hiring as HR then it can be done by a simple Graduate as well after getting some experience.
Hope I may anwer and clarify my point of view.
Regards
Khalid
From Pakistan, Lahore
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