Hi,
Its depends upon the ethics and culture you/your companys' believes.
As all suggested, bribe him and get rid of it, I tell you that it would be very simple and temporary way of getting rid of problem.
As you said, you are perfectly maintaining the records/registers/all compliances and also having the fair policies w.r.t. health, safety, welfare, etc., I think you have no need to afraid. Explain/show him every records wtever he asks, try to convince him about the culture/ethics your companies believe and show yourself/anyone in the company helpless regarding that.
If he gets convince, thats good or in case, if he sends any notice/observation memo to you, try to reply within time frame untill and unless he does not get satisfied with the documents/convince about you. I assure you that it will definately help you out and will also make a permanent fair image. (before initiating all this make sure, u r maintaining your records perfectly and your management is also in the same sought of mind).
regards
mukesh mehta
From India, Mumbai
15Its depends upon the ethics and culture you/your companys' believes.
As all suggested, bribe him and get rid of it, I tell you that it would be very simple and temporary way of getting rid of problem.
As you said, you are perfectly maintaining the records/registers/all compliances and also having the fair policies w.r.t. health, safety, welfare, etc., I think you have no need to afraid. Explain/show him every records wtever he asks, try to convince him about the culture/ethics your companies believe and show yourself/anyone in the company helpless regarding that.
If he gets convince, thats good or in case, if he sends any notice/observation memo to you, try to reply within time frame untill and unless he does not get satisfied with the documents/convince about you. I assure you that it will definately help you out and will also make a permanent fair image. (before initiating all this make sure, u r maintaining your records perfectly and your management is also in the same sought of mind).
regards
mukesh mehta
From India, Mumbai
Dear all,
I have doubts if bribe system has peace and happiness of mind. If it has no peace and happiness of mind , then what is the use of crores earned through this system.
This bribe system has widened the pits between rich and poor , has created tension,
hatred, fights , crimes and most of ills in our society are due to this bribe system. Remember , we can not live in isolation , nor our progeny can . All will have to live in this society.
My life experience show , we can happily and contentedly live without bribe.
With warm regards.
Satyavan.
From India, Delhi
I have doubts if bribe system has peace and happiness of mind. If it has no peace and happiness of mind , then what is the use of crores earned through this system.
This bribe system has widened the pits between rich and poor , has created tension,
hatred, fights , crimes and most of ills in our society are due to this bribe system. Remember , we can not live in isolation , nor our progeny can . All will have to live in this society.
My life experience show , we can happily and contentedly live without bribe.
With warm regards.
Satyavan.
From India, Delhi
Dear all,
Thanks for your valuable opinions.
I want to tell you more clear more clear about my company.
Basically, we are one of the top consulting company in india and i am associate with the project of sub-contracting.The problem in gurgaon is inspections are happened in daily week because our resources are deputed at so many client sites.
I have an personal opinion, labour laws are big hurdles to india growth. Take example of IDA mid 1980 Amendment If any organisation employ more than 100 workmen so, it can not layoff any employee situation like recession and some other reason. That"s the reason more than 80% manufacturing organistion employ labours between 90 to 100. IDA Act is one of stringent law which declining the india manufacturing capabilities.
But it does'nt mean we don't make any law but it should be balanced law.
Well i will consider your views also while presenting my stand before the company whether bribe give him or not.
From India, Delhi
Thanks for your valuable opinions.
I want to tell you more clear more clear about my company.
Basically, we are one of the top consulting company in india and i am associate with the project of sub-contracting.The problem in gurgaon is inspections are happened in daily week because our resources are deputed at so many client sites.
I have an personal opinion, labour laws are big hurdles to india growth. Take example of IDA mid 1980 Amendment If any organisation employ more than 100 workmen so, it can not layoff any employee situation like recession and some other reason. That"s the reason more than 80% manufacturing organistion employ labours between 90 to 100. IDA Act is one of stringent law which declining the india manufacturing capabilities.
But it does'nt mean we don't make any law but it should be balanced law.
Well i will consider your views also while presenting my stand before the company whether bribe give him or not.
From India, Delhi
Yes. Do that and you shall remain where you are. They will know you are easy prey. They will come back for more, More and MORE!!!
Stand upto them and they will contrive your fall. Okay, so stand up again. You will feel better for it. And you would have done yourself and the country a great service. The starch in your backbone will be so evident.
Whatever your decision, let me wish you the very best of luck.
Aye.
Colonel Gahlot
TRURECRUIT
9810081197
From India, Delhi
Stand upto them and they will contrive your fall. Okay, so stand up again. You will feel better for it. And you would have done yourself and the country a great service. The starch in your backbone will be so evident.
Whatever your decision, let me wish you the very best of luck.
Aye.
Colonel Gahlot
TRURECRUIT
9810081197
From India, Delhi
Solution1 Simple one throw dog to the bone i mean throw bone to the dog
solution2 if all your documenation is perfect contact the CVC central vigilance commission branch, or anti corruption bureau, and if that labour inspector is caught then disciplinary proceedings will be initiated against him.
But then that will mean taking a enemity with labour inspector and in case if he has influence and power he will come out unharmed we dont know how much person has power, so then he will try to make your life hell. Unnecessary your company will be suffering. Even though anti corruption officials want you to approach them, still the legal system in india has to improve a lot ;( only because of this we fear, a lot,
Solution3
not advised unless you really want to eliminate corruption and have power
teach the labour inspector a lesson the hard way, hard way includes many physical and mental torture techniques so that the labour inspector ultimately becomes mad,
From India, Madras
solution2 if all your documenation is perfect contact the CVC central vigilance commission branch, or anti corruption bureau, and if that labour inspector is caught then disciplinary proceedings will be initiated against him.
But then that will mean taking a enemity with labour inspector and in case if he has influence and power he will come out unharmed we dont know how much person has power, so then he will try to make your life hell. Unnecessary your company will be suffering. Even though anti corruption officials want you to approach them, still the legal system in india has to improve a lot ;( only because of this we fear, a lot,
Solution3
not advised unless you really want to eliminate corruption and have power
teach the labour inspector a lesson the hard way, hard way includes many physical and mental torture techniques so that the labour inspector ultimately becomes mad,
From India, Madras
I fully agree with Mr Bhaskar’s solution. It is the most practical way & Ultimate.That is how a business is run. We want friends and not foes.
From India, Nagpur
From India, Nagpur
Dear Friends
I am constrained to close this thread herewith; while thanking the members for participation and contributing their valuable suggestions.
The original query posted; viz. "I want your opinion regarding when labour inspector demand for bribe so, How should we resolve that issue when our compliance document is perfet?" has received sufficient inputs to enable the 'poster' to make an informed decision.
This is an 'ethical' issue and there can be several suggestion depending on the personal or organizational ethical values of the members.
Ultimately, the questions that we need to ask ourselves is, 'What kind of world do we intend to give to our children and theirs.'
'Can we do something OURSELVES to make this world a better place to live (or are we truly helpless)?'
Any civilized society is capable of rooting out its social evils; even in India we have had several such examples. There is no reason to believe that corruption can not be eliminated; all it requires is individual and collective will; and all of us can contribute our own bit.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
I am constrained to close this thread herewith; while thanking the members for participation and contributing their valuable suggestions.
The original query posted; viz. "I want your opinion regarding when labour inspector demand for bribe so, How should we resolve that issue when our compliance document is perfet?" has received sufficient inputs to enable the 'poster' to make an informed decision.
This is an 'ethical' issue and there can be several suggestion depending on the personal or organizational ethical values of the members.
Ultimately, the questions that we need to ask ourselves is, 'What kind of world do we intend to give to our children and theirs.'
'Can we do something OURSELVES to make this world a better place to live (or are we truly helpless)?'
Any civilized society is capable of rooting out its social evils; even in India we have had several such examples. There is no reason to believe that corruption can not be eliminated; all it requires is individual and collective will; and all of us can contribute our own bit.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Dear Nadal,
I faced the same situation in my organization few weeks back. We have pakka documents but he asked me silly question like need written statment of all my documents and post in notice board all employees details and bla bla...
When that time i'm only person handling the department and my Senior manger is out of station. then finially he planed to put case against our company. but i try to convensed him and asked him for a day time. but he directly asked 5k for not take any futher action. but told to them will be give you on next due to manager is not available. so they agreed and return back.
then i discussed with my manager and he is not okay to give bribe and all. because we have the documents and told never give even a single paise for them. if they file any case will meet in court...
Next day...
Labour Inspector called up and asked me about the amount of bribe or they file the case ... then again i said the same thing .... manager is out of station once he will come we will meet in your office... he really got tensed and keep the phone...
It was continued more then 4 days... then he really fedup and till now i did't get any call from him....
Still i thinking whether did they file any complients or not....
So i realize that we mostly try to avoide more conversation... we better avoide Labour inspector coming inside to our premissies... this is only way we can escape from them.
From India, Chennai
I faced the same situation in my organization few weeks back. We have pakka documents but he asked me silly question like need written statment of all my documents and post in notice board all employees details and bla bla...
When that time i'm only person handling the department and my Senior manger is out of station. then finially he planed to put case against our company. but i try to convensed him and asked him for a day time. but he directly asked 5k for not take any futher action. but told to them will be give you on next due to manager is not available. so they agreed and return back.
then i discussed with my manager and he is not okay to give bribe and all. because we have the documents and told never give even a single paise for them. if they file any case will meet in court...
Next day...
Labour Inspector called up and asked me about the amount of bribe or they file the case ... then again i said the same thing .... manager is out of station once he will come we will meet in your office... he really got tensed and keep the phone...
It was continued more then 4 days... then he really fedup and till now i did't get any call from him....
Still i thinking whether did they file any complients or not....
So i realize that we mostly try to avoide more conversation... we better avoide Labour inspector coming inside to our premissies... this is only way we can escape from them.
From India, Chennai
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