Dear All,
We follow leave rules like this.
We have declared Diwali holidays on 5th and 6th November 2010 (Friday and Saturday). Sunday normal weekly off. Now, assume someone takes leave on Thursday and returns on Monday morning as usual to office, then he will be allowed leave on 5th and 6th. If he does not turn up on Monday too, then From Thursday upto Monday, all the days will be calculated as Leave. If he does not attend office in the forenoon on Monday and present in the afternoon, even then the entire leave in between will be counted (as he has to necessarily be in office in the forenoon).
If he is present on Thursday and takes off on Monday, then he will not lose the days 5th and 6th.
In a nutshel, one has to be present in the office either the previous or the very next working day to enjoy those leaves. We have brought in this system to reduce absenteeism and found a good response to this.
Therefore it is company's leave policy and practice.
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
100We follow leave rules like this.
We have declared Diwali holidays on 5th and 6th November 2010 (Friday and Saturday). Sunday normal weekly off. Now, assume someone takes leave on Thursday and returns on Monday morning as usual to office, then he will be allowed leave on 5th and 6th. If he does not turn up on Monday too, then From Thursday upto Monday, all the days will be calculated as Leave. If he does not attend office in the forenoon on Monday and present in the afternoon, even then the entire leave in between will be counted (as he has to necessarily be in office in the forenoon).
If he is present on Thursday and takes off on Monday, then he will not lose the days 5th and 6th.
In a nutshel, one has to be present in the office either the previous or the very next working day to enjoy those leaves. We have brought in this system to reduce absenteeism and found a good response to this.
Therefore it is company's leave policy and practice.
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
If the company adopts 30 days pay poicy, the holidays between the leave are accounted as leave (because the company pays salary for hoildays also). If the company adopts 26 days pay policy, the holidays between the leave are treated as holidays (because the company pays salary for working days only).
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Hi Sudha,
Your query is --- """ In our organisation we have leave for diwali on 4th (Thu) & 5th (Fri) of Nov'10. Weekly five days working day. So if a staff goes to his home town on 2nd (Tue) and he comes back on 9th (Tuesday). In that case how many days will be calculated as leave, in this case whether saturday & Sunday will be included as leave or not."""
For the clear understanding, we will use the terms - "PAID HOLIDAY/s", "PAID WEEKLY OFF" and "PAID LEAVE"
Only when an employee works for 6 days - say Monday to Saturday- (or 5 days as you observe 5 days week) - he becomes entitled for the "Paid Weekly Off" on Sunday. --- [principle is "first work then have a rest" ... Most of the calanders are printed in Wrong manner. Monday should be the 1st day of the week and Sunday the last]
In the given case, if the employee is availing pre-sanctioned paid leave (like PL or CL) on 2nd(Tue), 3rd(Wed)and 8th(Mon) , he is entitled to the Paid Holidays (4th & 5th) BUT not for the Paid Weekly Off on 6th & 7th (Sat, Sun). 6th & 7th (Sat,Sun) will be counted as Paid Leave and total 5 days (2,3,6,7&8 Nov.) will be debited to his leave account.
If he is availing Leave Without Pay ( in case no paid leave balance in his a/c but has applied for and permission to remain absent is granted --it is LWP) all 5 days will be treated as LWP. Since, permission is granted, he will be entitled to Paid Holidays-Diwali- of two days -(4th & 5th).
However, if he remains "ABSENT" without intimation and/or obtaining permission, in such a case, all 7 days (2nd Nov. to 8th Nov.) will be treated as "ABSENT" = no payment for these 7 days.
In addition to this (non payment), if you wish, you can also take a disciplinary action against him as Absenteeism amounts to a listed "Misconduct" as per Model Standing Orders Act or even otherwise.
..... Vijdam.
From India, Pune
Your query is --- """ In our organisation we have leave for diwali on 4th (Thu) & 5th (Fri) of Nov'10. Weekly five days working day. So if a staff goes to his home town on 2nd (Tue) and he comes back on 9th (Tuesday). In that case how many days will be calculated as leave, in this case whether saturday & Sunday will be included as leave or not."""
For the clear understanding, we will use the terms - "PAID HOLIDAY/s", "PAID WEEKLY OFF" and "PAID LEAVE"
Only when an employee works for 6 days - say Monday to Saturday- (or 5 days as you observe 5 days week) - he becomes entitled for the "Paid Weekly Off" on Sunday. --- [principle is "first work then have a rest" ... Most of the calanders are printed in Wrong manner. Monday should be the 1st day of the week and Sunday the last]
In the given case, if the employee is availing pre-sanctioned paid leave (like PL or CL) on 2nd(Tue), 3rd(Wed)and 8th(Mon) , he is entitled to the Paid Holidays (4th & 5th) BUT not for the Paid Weekly Off on 6th & 7th (Sat, Sun). 6th & 7th (Sat,Sun) will be counted as Paid Leave and total 5 days (2,3,6,7&8 Nov.) will be debited to his leave account.
If he is availing Leave Without Pay ( in case no paid leave balance in his a/c but has applied for and permission to remain absent is granted --it is LWP) all 5 days will be treated as LWP. Since, permission is granted, he will be entitled to Paid Holidays-Diwali- of two days -(4th & 5th).
However, if he remains "ABSENT" without intimation and/or obtaining permission, in such a case, all 7 days (2nd Nov. to 8th Nov.) will be treated as "ABSENT" = no payment for these 7 days.
In addition to this (non payment), if you wish, you can also take a disciplinary action against him as Absenteeism amounts to a listed "Misconduct" as per Model Standing Orders Act or even otherwise.
..... Vijdam.
From India, Pune
Dear Sudha,
The 4th and 5th Nov hoilidays is not count as a holiday if he/she continue leave from 2nd Nov to 9th Nov then it will be count part of leave. HE / She not elegible for Piad Holiday.
regards,
ram
From India, Ahmadabad
The 4th and 5th Nov hoilidays is not count as a holiday if he/she continue leave from 2nd Nov to 9th Nov then it will be count part of leave. HE / She not elegible for Piad Holiday.
regards,
ram
From India, Ahmadabad
Dear Sudha S
Please note that there are different types of leaves.
If someone apply for a leave & the holidays are at the Beginning or End, only the working days to be deducted or consider as leave.
If the holidays are in between, it doesnt matter,
OR It requires special permission from your boss / senior to consider only the working days are the leave days.
All are depend upon each firm's procedure.
Dan
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Please note that there are different types of leaves.
If someone apply for a leave & the holidays are at the Beginning or End, only the working days to be deducted or consider as leave.
If the holidays are in between, it doesnt matter,
OR It requires special permission from your boss / senior to consider only the working days are the leave days.
All are depend upon each firm's procedure.
Dan
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Dear All, It is a thumb rule that if u take a leave on monday weekend holidays are also considered as LWP. Regards, Imran.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Pals,
Administration of leaves are normally in tune with company policies. If the number of leaves are as per the Acts(Say Factories Act) weeky offs / holidays are excuded from leave. However , organisations providing leaves more than the Acts, normally sand witching of leave with holidays / weekly offs are counted as leave ( or loss of pay if no there is no leave balance). However in case of prefixing or sufixing leave, holidays are excluded for counting leaves.
Thanks.
HC. Subbaramu
HR and Labour Law Consultant,
Bangalore
From India, Kochi
Administration of leaves are normally in tune with company policies. If the number of leaves are as per the Acts(Say Factories Act) weeky offs / holidays are excuded from leave. However , organisations providing leaves more than the Acts, normally sand witching of leave with holidays / weekly offs are counted as leave ( or loss of pay if no there is no leave balance). However in case of prefixing or sufixing leave, holidays are excluded for counting leaves.
Thanks.
HC. Subbaramu
HR and Labour Law Consultant,
Bangalore
From India, Kochi
Hi Sudha,
Instead of single leave application from 2nd to 8th, one can get sanction two leave applications, one from 2nd to 3rd as CL and 8th as EL. In case of single application also if sanctioned then there is no harm as per our company leave policy suffix and prefix of Declared Holidays/ Weekly Off to the leave period are not counted as leave days so there are 3days leave (ie. 2nd,3rd and 8th only)
Happy Dewali
Samanta
From India
Instead of single leave application from 2nd to 8th, one can get sanction two leave applications, one from 2nd to 3rd as CL and 8th as EL. In case of single application also if sanctioned then there is no harm as per our company leave policy suffix and prefix of Declared Holidays/ Weekly Off to the leave period are not counted as leave days so there are 3days leave (ie. 2nd,3rd and 8th only)
Happy Dewali
Samanta
From India
Dear all
leave caculation does not depend on companies leave policy.Basically it depend on two things.
1.Under which act your company is covered whether factories act or shop of establisment act .
2.if your company is covred under shop and establishment than of which state because all states have different shop and establishment act and have different leave provisions.
3.In case of compnies covered under factories act than Annual leave will exclude sundays and holidays while counting leave but for casual and sick leave no act is clear.
From India, Delhi
leave caculation does not depend on companies leave policy.Basically it depend on two things.
1.Under which act your company is covered whether factories act or shop of establisment act .
2.if your company is covred under shop and establishment than of which state because all states have different shop and establishment act and have different leave provisions.
3.In case of compnies covered under factories act than Annual leave will exclude sundays and holidays while counting leave but for casual and sick leave no act is clear.
From India, Delhi
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