Dear Sansim,
Nowadays back ground checks are gaining popularity. Today if you take up this job by submitting a fake certificate they may accept it without checking. At any point of time if your future potential employers do a background check you may be deprived of various opportunities. Are you ready to go through the frustration at that time?
I agree with the Super moderator tht if you tell them the truth you may not get this job but things will work out for the better in the future. On the other hand, to hide this one fact you may have to lie a thousand times in future.
You may post your CV on this forum. Maybe someone will be able to help you.
Someone had told me once... if you are in a fix, think about how the decision will impact your life 5 yrs frm now and act accordingly.
However, if you decide to take up this job by submitting fake certificate, I would suggest you to complete your graduation through correspondence along with your job.
All the best!
Sia.
From India, Mumbai
Nowadays back ground checks are gaining popularity. Today if you take up this job by submitting a fake certificate they may accept it without checking. At any point of time if your future potential employers do a background check you may be deprived of various opportunities. Are you ready to go through the frustration at that time?
I agree with the Super moderator tht if you tell them the truth you may not get this job but things will work out for the better in the future. On the other hand, to hide this one fact you may have to lie a thousand times in future.
You may post your CV on this forum. Maybe someone will be able to help you.
Someone had told me once... if you are in a fix, think about how the decision will impact your life 5 yrs frm now and act accordingly.
However, if you decide to take up this job by submitting fake certificate, I would suggest you to complete your graduation through correspondence along with your job.
All the best!
Sia.
From India, Mumbai
Hi, Dont do this. this is unprofessional to submit fake certificates to get job. If the company will come to know that you have submitted fake certificates they can take legal action against you for doing this. Instead try to complete your education and apply for jobs.
From India, Mumbai
29From India, Mumbai
It is sad to see HR professionals giving advice of submitting fake certificates. These days most of the companies do a background verification which includes verification of the certificates too. If you havent completed your education, be upfront and explain the circumstances. You should also think about completing your education. It is never too late to complete your education.
One of my esteemed colleagues has said something to the effect that qualifications have no real value. If education had no value, then people wouldnt pursue education. Education adds tremendous value to our lives, it broadens our horizons, our thinking capacity changes our mindset and enable us to look at situations from various view points. so saying qualifications and job dont go hand in hand is wrong. Qualifications are important, as it helps us understand the role we are expected to perform better and also to understand what the role is all about.
So samsin, be brave and tell your company the circumstances leading to your discontinuation of education and how you are willing to make for the lost time. I am sure your company will sympathetic to your situation and give you a chance to prove yourself.
All the best.
From India, Pune
One of my esteemed colleagues has said something to the effect that qualifications have no real value. If education had no value, then people wouldnt pursue education. Education adds tremendous value to our lives, it broadens our horizons, our thinking capacity changes our mindset and enable us to look at situations from various view points. so saying qualifications and job dont go hand in hand is wrong. Qualifications are important, as it helps us understand the role we are expected to perform better and also to understand what the role is all about.
So samsin, be brave and tell your company the circumstances leading to your discontinuation of education and how you are willing to make for the lost time. I am sure your company will sympathetic to your situation and give you a chance to prove yourself.
All the best.
From India, Pune
Hi,
Its an unfortunate sequence of events that you have been through, but perhaps, it was the destiny of God.
But, what you are intending to do is completely a wrong thing to do, if the organisation at any point in time discovers that you have submitted fake documents, the organsaition can even terminate your services and that shall surely be a very bad thing to happen.
So as a suggestion to your problem, you can instead speak to the Manager- HR or any other competent authority in your prospective organisation and clearly explain your situation and ask for a waiver in their hiring norms.
This will ensure that your association with the organisation is fair and tension free.
But pl donot submitt any fake documents.
All the Best.
From India, Delhi
Its an unfortunate sequence of events that you have been through, but perhaps, it was the destiny of God.
But, what you are intending to do is completely a wrong thing to do, if the organisation at any point in time discovers that you have submitted fake documents, the organsaition can even terminate your services and that shall surely be a very bad thing to happen.
So as a suggestion to your problem, you can instead speak to the Manager- HR or any other competent authority in your prospective organisation and clearly explain your situation and ask for a waiver in their hiring norms.
This will ensure that your association with the organisation is fair and tension free.
But pl donot submitt any fake documents.
All the Best.
From India, Delhi
Dear,
We all understand your concern & for others who don't understand only 1 question to them "if youngsters in call center can do this for their pocket money why can't this guy do for his living?"
Dude you need to check first, on what level the hospital is functioning? if it is on the lower level definitely you can do it, otherwise you will be in big time trouble...
From India, Mumbai
We all understand your concern & for others who don't understand only 1 question to them "if youngsters in call center can do this for their pocket money why can't this guy do for his living?"
Dude you need to check first, on what level the hospital is functioning? if it is on the lower level definitely you can do it, otherwise you will be in big time trouble...
From India, Mumbai
Dear at no cost you should submit fake certificate. I know at this moment you might be tempted to do so. But dear you have look at it from long term prospective.
You may get this job submitting a fake certi but what if they conduct background verification and fire you on grounds of cheating? Isn't that going to be more humiliating?
Secondly, the hardships that you have gone through are too much for a single person to take up. But, remember not to self-pity as it will only make you feel miserable.
Instead develop the guts, tell the truth to the Management and face it. Be confident and believe in yourself.
Do not lose hope but keep trying for a job where they are ready to recruit you inspite of you not being a graduate.
From India, Mumbai
You may get this job submitting a fake certi but what if they conduct background verification and fire you on grounds of cheating? Isn't that going to be more humiliating?
Secondly, the hardships that you have gone through are too much for a single person to take up. But, remember not to self-pity as it will only make you feel miserable.
Instead develop the guts, tell the truth to the Management and face it. Be confident and believe in yourself.
Do not lose hope but keep trying for a job where they are ready to recruit you inspite of you not being a graduate.
From India, Mumbai
Hi Sansim
First of all accept my heartfelt sympathy for all that has happened to you. I can understand what you have been through and how important it is for you to get a decent job. But dear daughter, I would advise you not to submit a fake document anywhere, anytime. It will leave you in a mental turmoil which may even be worse than you are going through. What if you are fired and it becomes known around? You may not be able to get any job again.
Please be honest, tell your prospective employers about it and above all pray to God to help you out. I am sure it will work out for your betterment.
All the best
Kawaljit
From India, Chandigarh
First of all accept my heartfelt sympathy for all that has happened to you. I can understand what you have been through and how important it is for you to get a decent job. But dear daughter, I would advise you not to submit a fake document anywhere, anytime. It will leave you in a mental turmoil which may even be worse than you are going through. What if you are fired and it becomes known around? You may not be able to get any job again.
Please be honest, tell your prospective employers about it and above all pray to God to help you out. I am sure it will work out for your betterment.
All the best
Kawaljit
From India, Chandigarh
Dear Sansim ,
I don't think so you are doing any mistake by giving fake cerificate.Beacuse nobody is there in this world who never cheat someone. & the main thing is u r doing good use of it ns. y should u woory.god is great. do belive on him.good luck :-)
From India, Bangalore
I don't think so you are doing any mistake by giving fake cerificate.Beacuse nobody is there in this world who never cheat someone. & the main thing is u r doing good use of it ns. y should u woory.god is great. do belive on him.good luck :-)
From India, Bangalore
I would like to answer the question asked by Richa. I am the person who said that there is no one to one relation between qualification and job performance.I never said qualification is of no use. Yes it is of no use if it fails to produce the desired competencies.Our present educational system fails on this count. It gives us qualification but no or little competencies.
Let me give you one example. An illeterate AKBAR was a better administrator than our HIGHLY QUALIFIED IAS OFFICERS.So do not confuse qualification with performance.
It is because of this rigid/illogical selection policy, most companies are not able to find proper talent. They are throwing DIMONDS INTO DUSTBIN assuming that they are mere GLASS(because they do not have the qualification as mentioned in JD). So what I am advocating is an open approach to selection.
Goleman mentioned in his book how insurance company metlife had rejected some candidates because they do not have required qualification as mentioned in job description. But Golman knew that they will succeed. So he persuaded metlife people to take them. And what happed after 2 years. These diamonds who were thrown to dustbin appeared as top insurance advisors.
In my life I have learnt a lot from people who do not have much qualification.(In fact in my M.B.A days I wanted to do my interenship project with a PAN SHOP OWNER. But my institute did not approve it).
From India, Bhubaneswar
Let me give you one example. An illeterate AKBAR was a better administrator than our HIGHLY QUALIFIED IAS OFFICERS.So do not confuse qualification with performance.
It is because of this rigid/illogical selection policy, most companies are not able to find proper talent. They are throwing DIMONDS INTO DUSTBIN assuming that they are mere GLASS(because they do not have the qualification as mentioned in JD). So what I am advocating is an open approach to selection.
Goleman mentioned in his book how insurance company metlife had rejected some candidates because they do not have required qualification as mentioned in job description. But Golman knew that they will succeed. So he persuaded metlife people to take them. And what happed after 2 years. These diamonds who were thrown to dustbin appeared as top insurance advisors.
In my life I have learnt a lot from people who do not have much qualification.(In fact in my M.B.A days I wanted to do my interenship project with a PAN SHOP OWNER. But my institute did not approve it).
From India, Bhubaneswar
It would be highly unprofessional and unethical of us; if we as HR professionals guide an individual on a path which non of us as recruiters and managers look favourably upon.
the lady in question has been through a lot agreed. But wouldnt it be prudent on her part to talk to the manager's concerned and explain her predicament. also she mentions that the employers are happy with her abilities and skilss for the job. imagine what would it be if they find out the reality maybe a couple of months down the line. Wouldnt her reputation be tarnished.
I am disappointed.
From India
the lady in question has been through a lot agreed. But wouldnt it be prudent on her part to talk to the manager's concerned and explain her predicament. also she mentions that the employers are happy with her abilities and skilss for the job. imagine what would it be if they find out the reality maybe a couple of months down the line. Wouldnt her reputation be tarnished.
I am disappointed.
From India
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