Dear Shwetha,
Make a check list of activites your are doing on regular basis for a month.Financial Stability is one need to be conerned before quitting a job.Quitting is easy way but getting a job is tough scenario.So Please patience for a month.
There is a situation in life i.e "Now or Never",analyse the Situation yourself about the current state,if it falls on high priortity take a bold decision on it.
Thanks and regards
From India, Madras
1Make a check list of activites your are doing on regular basis for a month.Financial Stability is one need to be conerned before quitting a job.Quitting is easy way but getting a job is tough scenario.So Please patience for a month.
There is a situation in life i.e "Now or Never",analyse the Situation yourself about the current state,if it falls on high priortity take a bold decision on it.
Thanks and regards
From India, Madras
Hey Shwetha,
i think you shud stik on to this job. Try to listen and do things the way he wants you to do them. There is no use shouting at him, it will only worsen your situation. More over, this will be a learning experience for you, mite help you in your next job as well. problems are there in every company. Issues with managers is a never ending issue.
My personal opinion - Barking dogs seldom bite. Let this dog keep on barking. You jus do your work. Focus on ur studies, finish it and then if req, search for another job.
Rgds,
Suma
From India, Bangalore
i think you shud stik on to this job. Try to listen and do things the way he wants you to do them. There is no use shouting at him, it will only worsen your situation. More over, this will be a learning experience for you, mite help you in your next job as well. problems are there in every company. Issues with managers is a never ending issue.
My personal opinion - Barking dogs seldom bite. Let this dog keep on barking. You jus do your work. Focus on ur studies, finish it and then if req, search for another job.
Rgds,
Suma
From India, Bangalore
Dear Shweta,
Every HR professional might have come a cross the bitter experience which you are facing now in their respective service either at entry level or middle /senior level. When compare with other professions the HR profession must require more patiency. Because, being an HR person we have to deal with the humans whose concepts, thoughts, likes, dislikes and mentality may tend to change from person to person and from time to time.
Like your bosses so many others are there in this big world. Generally, these type of people may not have mental peace at their residence due to the atracities of wives etc. As such to counter their anger at home, these type of bosses can satisfy their mental ego by shouting at the persons who are working under them in the office, so as to make an impression that they are more powerful personality among the others. So, to takcle this type of persons we should have patiencey. As and when he is shouting at you, for get about it and try to think positively. But, do not irretate him by giving counters. Pl made him to realise the mistakes which are being committed by him by losing his tempre and shouting at persons while dealing with them in connection with business of the organisation.
One more thing is if any boss feels that the person who works under him is more clever and dynamic than that of him, automatically the feeling of insecurity may be devolopped in his mind. If once such feeling enters the mind, then to safe gaurd his position, he defenately tries to discourage the collegues or subordinates for their better thoughts even if they are proved to be for better performance of the organisation.
Any how, we are not here to quarell with others. As you have got certain obligations to be fulfilled you have to wait up to your turn comes. My sincere suggetion is try to get a better job else where which can match your qualifications and experience. Unless you get a new job, you should not terder resignaion for the present job.
Wish you all the best for good luck.
NVRao
Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Every HR professional might have come a cross the bitter experience which you are facing now in their respective service either at entry level or middle /senior level. When compare with other professions the HR profession must require more patiency. Because, being an HR person we have to deal with the humans whose concepts, thoughts, likes, dislikes and mentality may tend to change from person to person and from time to time.
Like your bosses so many others are there in this big world. Generally, these type of people may not have mental peace at their residence due to the atracities of wives etc. As such to counter their anger at home, these type of bosses can satisfy their mental ego by shouting at the persons who are working under them in the office, so as to make an impression that they are more powerful personality among the others. So, to takcle this type of persons we should have patiencey. As and when he is shouting at you, for get about it and try to think positively. But, do not irretate him by giving counters. Pl made him to realise the mistakes which are being committed by him by losing his tempre and shouting at persons while dealing with them in connection with business of the organisation.
One more thing is if any boss feels that the person who works under him is more clever and dynamic than that of him, automatically the feeling of insecurity may be devolopped in his mind. If once such feeling enters the mind, then to safe gaurd his position, he defenately tries to discourage the collegues or subordinates for their better thoughts even if they are proved to be for better performance of the organisation.
Any how, we are not here to quarell with others. As you have got certain obligations to be fulfilled you have to wait up to your turn comes. My sincere suggetion is try to get a better job else where which can match your qualifications and experience. Unless you get a new job, you should not terder resignaion for the present job.
Wish you all the best for good luck.
NVRao
Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Common people for heaven's sake stop taking this S***s from people who doesnt respect u as a human being...
I do not agree with those members over here who means that take the craps from ur bosses & try to keep them happy... Sorry people...but u need to "RESPECT URSELF"...
Sweta, my only advise...(if what ever u've mentioned is correct) Luk out for a job, once u get it... Kick ur current boss's ASS... They deserve it....
All the besst.....
From United Kingdom, London
I do not agree with those members over here who means that take the craps from ur bosses & try to keep them happy... Sorry people...but u need to "RESPECT URSELF"...
Sweta, my only advise...(if what ever u've mentioned is correct) Luk out for a job, once u get it... Kick ur current boss's ASS... They deserve it....
All the besst.....
From United Kingdom, London
Hi Shweta,
I think, you should treat him very tactfully with pease and smile and try to make him satisfy.
Whatever he says you just avoid. And try to learn these things.
I had also faced this condition and learnt that BOSS Always Right. Take his all activities positively .
Beleive me when you learn these things , would be winner.
And i think there is no need to change a job till than the good job in your hand, you are knowing the market condition very well.
There is no surity that you will get Good Boss if u change job.
May be he can be more rude than him.
SO ALWAYS LISTEN HIM TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE EXPECTS FROM YOU... WHY HE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH U? IMPROVE URSELF....ALWAYS SMILE....AND TRY TO CAPTURE THE THINGS....BE POSITIVE...MAKE HIM HAPPY....NEVER BE UPSET...AND ONE IMPORTANT THING ALWAYS KEEP IN MIN THAT (BOSSES ARE ALWAYS RIGHT)
And do not worry about ur job profile like admin work...its also the part of the HR..
Now days hr filed is very vast if you want to make ur carrier in HR you have knowledge of ur company, vision , mission.. And u hv to coordinate with Fianance Dept, Purchase Dept, Admin Dept..So do not hv any need to worry my dear..
Always Smile and happy....i hope you will accept my views...
No need to fight with ur boss.
If still problem consists let me know.
Take Care
From India, Pune
I think, you should treat him very tactfully with pease and smile and try to make him satisfy.
Whatever he says you just avoid. And try to learn these things.
I had also faced this condition and learnt that BOSS Always Right. Take his all activities positively .
Beleive me when you learn these things , would be winner.
And i think there is no need to change a job till than the good job in your hand, you are knowing the market condition very well.
There is no surity that you will get Good Boss if u change job.
May be he can be more rude than him.
SO ALWAYS LISTEN HIM TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE EXPECTS FROM YOU... WHY HE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH U? IMPROVE URSELF....ALWAYS SMILE....AND TRY TO CAPTURE THE THINGS....BE POSITIVE...MAKE HIM HAPPY....NEVER BE UPSET...AND ONE IMPORTANT THING ALWAYS KEEP IN MIN THAT (BOSSES ARE ALWAYS RIGHT)
And do not worry about ur job profile like admin work...its also the part of the HR..
Now days hr filed is very vast if you want to make ur carrier in HR you have knowledge of ur company, vision , mission.. And u hv to coordinate with Fianance Dept, Purchase Dept, Admin Dept..So do not hv any need to worry my dear..
Always Smile and happy....i hope you will accept my views...
No need to fight with ur boss.
If still problem consists let me know.
Take Care
From India, Pune
hey....
neither a job change wud help nor taking matter to top management ....
u will get same type of boss every where, this is my experience.
and u r HR pro, our job is to manage people at large scale with different personalities n expectations.
try understanding him as a subject with weird persona, try to guess wht his next action will be and press on in whenever u see an oppurtunity..
It will be a good experience, once u knw how to take advantage of it....
From India, Mandi
neither a job change wud help nor taking matter to top management ....
u will get same type of boss every where, this is my experience.
and u r HR pro, our job is to manage people at large scale with different personalities n expectations.
try understanding him as a subject with weird persona, try to guess wht his next action will be and press on in whenever u see an oppurtunity..
It will be a good experience, once u knw how to take advantage of it....
From India, Mandi
Hi Shweta!
I understand it must be very frustrating for you. In my opinion Quitting is not the right thing. I mean if you are doing MBA and wanting to go in HR , this will help you in one thing for sure and i.e. PATIENCE.
Also I suggest that you understand his beahvour and act accordingly. Such people act in erractic way because may be at times he may have developed Inferiority Complex due to your behaviour, skills. Try and Boost up his EGO by asking for his permission for petty things( when he asks you to take initiuative) rest of the time just stick to your work.
But if this gets too personal I would advise you to take this matter to higher authorities.
All the best fro Future!
From India, Nagpur
I understand it must be very frustrating for you. In my opinion Quitting is not the right thing. I mean if you are doing MBA and wanting to go in HR , this will help you in one thing for sure and i.e. PATIENCE.
Also I suggest that you understand his beahvour and act accordingly. Such people act in erractic way because may be at times he may have developed Inferiority Complex due to your behaviour, skills. Try and Boost up his EGO by asking for his permission for petty things( when he asks you to take initiuative) rest of the time just stick to your work.
But if this gets too personal I would advise you to take this matter to higher authorities.
All the best fro Future!
From India, Nagpur
Dear Shweta,
I too had a boss like yours and continued with him for 7 years, it was not easy.
It's nice to know that you are pursuing with your higher studies, keep going. I suggest that you spend more valueable time in your studies and keep an aim to complete them in the stipulated time.
Try to handle him with a high level of patience, coz that's one thing which can really pull you out of all your hard times with him. Pls do not argue with your boss, this will harm you & make you feel even more worse.
In the meanwhile if something good comes up then you can think of changing your job, but do not quit just becoz of your boss, he certainly is not the person who can decide on your fate.
So have patience have faith, things will turn around.
Good Luck.
Pramod Sulakhe
Goa.
From India, Pune
I too had a boss like yours and continued with him for 7 years, it was not easy.
It's nice to know that you are pursuing with your higher studies, keep going. I suggest that you spend more valueable time in your studies and keep an aim to complete them in the stipulated time.
Try to handle him with a high level of patience, coz that's one thing which can really pull you out of all your hard times with him. Pls do not argue with your boss, this will harm you & make you feel even more worse.
In the meanwhile if something good comes up then you can think of changing your job, but do not quit just becoz of your boss, he certainly is not the person who can decide on your fate.
So have patience have faith, things will turn around.
Good Luck.
Pramod Sulakhe
Goa.
From India, Pune
DEAR SHWETAONE THING YOU SHOULD KEEP IN YOUR MIND THAT BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND IF YOU FORGET THIS, RE-READ THE 1ST SENTENCE. BESDIES BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.. YOU NEED TO MANAGE / HANDLE YOUR BOSS. 1ST YOU SHOULD HOW HE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COMPLETE THE ASSIGNMENT , IN WHAT FASHION AND SO ON SO FORTH. I AM FORWARDING ONE OF THE ARTICLES ON MANAGING BOSS. PL GO THROUGH AND I AM SURE THINGS WILL MOVE IN RIGHT DIRECTION. MANAGING BOSSThe relationship with your boss is probably the most important relationship you have at work. Boss management can stimulate better performance, improve your working life, job satisfaction, and workload. Give your boss a hand and reap the rewards. When we think of managing someone, we usually think of managing our team members or subordinates. Subordinates are not solely dependent on their bosses, but that today's complexity requires interdependence: the boss needs her team as well. The whole process forced me to crystallize my observations and previous experience and test them with the 250 managers. I have grouped the results into ten rules that try to answer some common questions asked by managers with respect to managing their bosses, with the aim of helping the relationship become more effective, foster faster decisions, better decisions and more trust. 1. Decisions: If you do not want a 'no' or procrastination, give him/her a hand Your boss has other subordinates, other decisions to make. Thus, her (for simplicity, we use 'her' from now on in this article) best bet, if she is pressed for a decision, will be to say no. No, it is too risky; no, we do not have enough evidence; no, it is the wrong timing; no, it is off strategy, et cetera. · To avoid the 'no' that will ruin your and your team's enthusiasm, give her a hand. Remind her of where you left it last time you met; · Remind her of the objective rather than rushing to the 'what' and 'how'; · Remind her of past problems encountered because a decision was not made; · Quickly summarize the options considered, your criteria for selecting one option -- the one you are presenting; · Tell her what you expect from her: simply to inform, to decide jointly, to share the risk, to add one criterion, to re-examine the option; · Focus on the points where you need her help; · Be prepared with facts/data for potential disagreements. Help her out with graphics and visuals so that the situation is grasped faster; · After your meeting, summarize for her the decision in writing to make sure of the understanding; · And finally, once a decision has been made, your way, her way or no way, do not criticize it externally. You have become the best defender; the best ambassador of what was decided. 2. Manage her time: You may represent only 1% of her problems, don't make it as if it is 100%. Yes, you have preoccupations, problems to solve and issues to tackle. However, while your time is entirely devoted to them, do not expect your boss's time to be also.· The more simple the problem or issue at hand is, the less time you should have her spend on it: prepare, summarize, and synthesize information and options. Do not confuse your more frequent problems with the most important ones. · Book her for several meetings in advance. Nothing is more frustrating than to have to wait days, weeks or months for that extra new meeting needed in order to finalize a decision or a project. 3. An opinion: If you ask for her opinion, she will always have one. Rare are the bosses who, when asked for their advice or their decision, will use the psychological ping-pong approach of retuning the question to the person who asked. And their opinion may not always be that of a genius or a visionary. However, once given, the opinion becomes a constraint: was it an order? So, if you don't want your boss's opinion to thwart your achievements, to slow the speed of decision-making, or cloud the viewpoint, then don't ask for it. Best of all, don't ask if you don't need her opinion.· Choose the right moment to avoid procrastination: not only save her time by focusing on big issues, but choose the right moment to do so. If you present an issue at the wrong moment, the chances are she will procrastinate. · Prepare for your meeting: first because the advantage is to the one who is prepared, second because the preparation helps you reduce the time taken to come to the central issue. · Show the forest before the trees in a discussion: if you want to avoid spending a lot of time on going back to basics before she is at full speed with you, start with the basics yourself. Remind her of the objective, where you stand today, and what you want her opinion on.4. Information: It is not data. Turn grapes into wine: you are supposed to analyze the results of a market survey, and not be the mailman who passes the thick document full of statistics to your boss. So be selective; be visual; group the data; bring out what is essential. Data overload creates stress, which in turn can create denial, rejection, and numbness. As a manager, you are paid to collect the grapes (data), and turn them into wine, i.e. useful information. · Don't give her only the bad news: give her also the good news. If you keep bringing only bad news, little by little you become the bad news yourself. Don't minimize good news, because you want to focus on the problems. By doing that you contribute to creating a bad atmosphere. · Make sure she does not get the information from others too often: sometimes by being shy about what we should give or because we think it is not relevant, we don't feed our boss with key elements. However, other people could do it before you. And then the hassle starts. "I heard that…", "Why didn't you tell me that…" · And then you need to justify yourself; you may need to modify incorrect information. The trade off is between too little information leading to starvation, frustration, and/or restlessness vs too much information leading to overload. · Round off: what helps more to give sense to an amount or a size: 886,262.11 or 890K? What makes the decision-making process faster: 79.27% vs 21.73% or simply 80% vs 20%. Look back at all the tables you sent to your boss in the last twelve months. · Participate in and contribute to her informal network: every manager, hopefully, does not rely solely for managing on formal information given in internal documents and reports. Some people use internal informal networks. Some others also have an informal outside network of experts, friends, business connections that help them shape their vision of the world and how to act. You have yours; your boss has too. Why not volunteer part of yours, so that you do not always have to react and be defensive about information fed by people you do not necessarily think are the best sources? 5. Problems: Don't just come with problems, come also with solutions. Good bosses hate two kinds of behavior. The courtesan who always comes to tell you how great you are and the pyromaniac/fireman who comes to tell you "There is a huge problem" and then says "but don't worry, I will solve it!" There is also a third kind, the monkey transferor. She has a problem and she puts it on your shoulders, rather than bringing a solution or at least some options. Problems usually have several aspects. It is usually a gap between an objective and the result; there are options to close the gap; there is a choice of one option to be made; key tasks, dates, people and resources needed must be defined. On which of those steps in problem solving do you want your boss's input? Just be clear on what input you want rather than come with the stressful -- "I have a problem…" and throw the monkey. 6. Assumptions: Do not assume she knows as much as you do, but assume she can understand; so educate her. Please help, you are the expert. You spend all of your time and that of your team on the issue. You live with data, pressure points and levers; your boss does not. She does not know more than you do. Most senior executives are even dangerous when they get involved in making micro-decisions, as their point of reference is often not the current one but rather the situation they knew when they were junior managers. If you need her perspective, it is because it is broader; she has a better sense for inter-relationships with other parts of the organisation. You have two options. · You inundate her with technical stuff she does not understand, hoping that the amount of technical jargon will knock her down and force her to agree with you. It may work, but it may become a barrier in communication leading to lack of trust. · You educate him by simplifying, using easy to understand language, feeding him with articles, examples, best practices, summaries that help him see a perspective. By creating understanding, you relieve tensions; create trust that can lead to better decision-making. 7. Delegations: Constantly test the waters. It is not always easy to define ex ante what is delegated to a person. Some companies prefer to use the principle of subsidiary rather than the principle of delegation: the principle of subsidiary stipulates that you can do everything except the following list, whereas in the principle of delegation you stipulate, "you cannot do anything except…" Whichever is used, there will always be some doubt whether you have or do not have the delegation. You have two options: either you play it safe by always asking your boss's opinion. This can lead to paralysis, bottlenecks and your own demise, as your boss will think you are unable to take responsibility. Or you assume too much, take decisions and learn after the fact that it was not yours to decide. In between, there is the 'test the waters' strategy especially for things or areas, domains or steps that are unprecedented. 8. Promises: Do not promise what you cannot deliver, and avoid surprises, trust is at stake. Trust does not develop overnight and depends a lot on the predictability of the other person: what she says and does, how often she is living up to or not living up to her statements. In the same way, you will not fully trust your boss if she changes her mind too often or says things contrary to what you were told the last time. You also want to avoid being seen as unreliable by not delivering on what you promise or surprising her with bad news without forewarning. Do not promise dates for finishing projects you cannot handle. If you see that too much is asked of you, sit down and re-discuss priorities before proceeding, rather than becoming yourself a bottleneck. Involve your boss in the process, so it becomes a common priority. Avoid bad surprises. If your job is to be in charge of a particular area, then it is also to be in charge of bad results and improving them. Involve your boss in discussing and evaluating the risks, agreeing on key lead indicators that you will both share, so that neither you nor he will be surprised. For instance, whereas sales are not a good lead indicator, future orders or bookings can be. Cash in the bank is not, whereas good cash flow three months in advance is. 9. Differences: Manage differences in culture. Sometimes at IMD we use a questionnaire called the Power Map to help participants identify their own culture (i.e. values they cherish, leading to certain behaviors), to identify other executives' profiles and discuss consequences on communication and leadership in a team. To simplify, the four main types of profiles that our survey identified are: · People who like to 'control things' and introduce processes, develop more the 'now'; · People who are more concerned with people, develop more the impact on people; · People who are more concerned with getting things done, start with key actions; · People who are more concerned with ideas, frame proposals in concepts. Of course, in managing your boss you should know her personal inclination, as well as your personal bias. If you are process oriented, you will tend to present issues in a systematic and orderly fashion, with pros and cons, chronology of tasks, etc. If your boss is the action type, she could be bored. So in that case an executive summary, emphasizing the key actions and results would be a handy starting point. 10. Trust: Don't be sloppy in your documentation. It undermines trust. By making the assumption that she will check what we write or say anyway, and that she will make changes, we sometimes tend to be sloppy in our writing. Tables are not finished, text is not re-read, places we are going to are not visited beforehand, spelling is not checked, and information is missing... By not finalizing your facts, arguments, memos, spelling, supporting documents, etc., you can be sure some things will get changed, mistakes corrected. And soon you will be asked to show more facts and figures, and you will see more changes, more amendments. Soon all the delegation you had will be gone. Conclusion Better work between a boss and his subordinate is not just a matter of leadership. It also has to do with boss 'management', which can stimulate better performance, faster decision making and accomplishment of more … by both parties.
From India, Gondia
From India, Gondia
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