Dear All,
This is a good discusion. Safety Officers role is suggestive role. Many times his suggestions are not taking into consideration by managements also. when an accident took place everyone including management also look to the safety officer for his explanation. If it is the reportable accident he has to undergo for the criminal proceedings. How pity a safety officers job.
View the attachment for "How deviate a safety officers suggestions".
Regards
Srinivasa Rao. M
From India, Calcutta
21This is a good discusion. Safety Officers role is suggestive role. Many times his suggestions are not taking into consideration by managements also. when an accident took place everyone including management also look to the safety officer for his explanation. If it is the reportable accident he has to undergo for the criminal proceedings. How pity a safety officers job.
View the attachment for "How deviate a safety officers suggestions".
Regards
Srinivasa Rao. M
From India, Calcutta
@ Srinivasa Rao. M
Great attachment... What I understand from the same is, that there is a requirement to install one swing... Different views regarding the same from people is what shows through the pictures... In which only Safety Officer come forward/think about a standard swing...
I hope I correctly understood, or else please correct me and come foraward with right interpretations...
Great contribution and keep on participate and share your expertise with us...
From India
Great attachment... What I understand from the same is, that there is a requirement to install one swing... Different views regarding the same from people is what shows through the pictures... In which only Safety Officer come forward/think about a standard swing...
I hope I correctly understood, or else please correct me and come foraward with right interpretations...
Great contribution and keep on participate and share your expertise with us...
From India
Dear All,
Following news paper report may interest you:
Nandesari fire: KDAC Chem employee held
Owner, Three Others Booked In Case
The Times of India, 25th November 2010
Vadodara: Police have arrested one person in connection with Nandesari-GIDC fire incident that claimed one life and left seven injured. C M Jhalani, security manager of KDAC Chem Private Ltd, was arrested as he was responsible for the factory’s security and safety. A police complaint was registered against four persons including owner of KDAC on Monday night.
The cops have registered offence of culpable homicide not amounting to murder under IPC section 304 and others which included vitiating atmosphere so as to make it noxious to health. The other accused have been identified as owner Dhansukh Gaur, Kamal Chandani and K K Patel. “We will seek remand of Jhalani from a local court on Wednesday. He was arrested as he was responsible for the security of the factory premises,” said Chhani police inspector T P Parmar.
“We will arrest the other accused soon as investigations are on,” Parmar added. Jagdish Gohil, an employee of the KDAC was killed when several blasts ripped through the company’s plant on Monday morning. Police officials and officers of Directorate, Industrial Health and Safety (DISH) Department are jointly investigating the reasons behind the accident.
An officer from DISH visited the factory premise on Tuesday to ascertain whether any more bodies were trapped inside the plant. “We checked the factory premises and found that there was no other casualty. We are now trying to ascertain the reasons behind the event,” said P M Shah, factory inspector.
The incident spread panic in Nandesari-GIDC that houses hundreds of chemical units. About 20 factories located in the vicinity of KDAC suffered damages due to the blasts and fire. When the first blast occurred, most of the workers rushed out of the factory even as Gohil stayed back to close the valve of the boiler. However, a second blast flung Gohil in air and his badly charred body was recovered some time later by firebrigade officials.
“The incident has again raised issues of safety in industrial areas. The government just doesn’t understand the hazards of chemical disaster. If reports prepared after such accidents are not taken seriously, citizens might face face worse tragedies than the Bhopal gas leakage,” said environment activist, Rohit Prajapati. “I had demanded details of accidents in chemical units, reports made after the accidents and action taken by the government from Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority in June this year under the RTI Act. But, my application was directed to another department. I’m yet to get any information,” Prajapati added.
From India, Coimbatore
Following news paper report may interest you:
Nandesari fire: KDAC Chem employee held
Owner, Three Others Booked In Case
The Times of India, 25th November 2010
Vadodara: Police have arrested one person in connection with Nandesari-GIDC fire incident that claimed one life and left seven injured. C M Jhalani, security manager of KDAC Chem Private Ltd, was arrested as he was responsible for the factory’s security and safety. A police complaint was registered against four persons including owner of KDAC on Monday night.
The cops have registered offence of culpable homicide not amounting to murder under IPC section 304 and others which included vitiating atmosphere so as to make it noxious to health. The other accused have been identified as owner Dhansukh Gaur, Kamal Chandani and K K Patel. “We will seek remand of Jhalani from a local court on Wednesday. He was arrested as he was responsible for the security of the factory premises,” said Chhani police inspector T P Parmar.
“We will arrest the other accused soon as investigations are on,” Parmar added. Jagdish Gohil, an employee of the KDAC was killed when several blasts ripped through the company’s plant on Monday morning. Police officials and officers of Directorate, Industrial Health and Safety (DISH) Department are jointly investigating the reasons behind the accident.
An officer from DISH visited the factory premise on Tuesday to ascertain whether any more bodies were trapped inside the plant. “We checked the factory premises and found that there was no other casualty. We are now trying to ascertain the reasons behind the event,” said P M Shah, factory inspector.
The incident spread panic in Nandesari-GIDC that houses hundreds of chemical units. About 20 factories located in the vicinity of KDAC suffered damages due to the blasts and fire. When the first blast occurred, most of the workers rushed out of the factory even as Gohil stayed back to close the valve of the boiler. However, a second blast flung Gohil in air and his badly charred body was recovered some time later by firebrigade officials.
“The incident has again raised issues of safety in industrial areas. The government just doesn’t understand the hazards of chemical disaster. If reports prepared after such accidents are not taken seriously, citizens might face face worse tragedies than the Bhopal gas leakage,” said environment activist, Rohit Prajapati. “I had demanded details of accidents in chemical units, reports made after the accidents and action taken by the government from Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority in June this year under the RTI Act. But, my application was directed to another department. I’m yet to get any information,” Prajapati added.
From India, Coimbatore
Thanks to all friends who commented on the issue;
The case mentioned by MR.PTRC at Baroda have lot of administrative and legal implications.
As Mr.Kesava rightly pin out there are no an standard approach of reporting or making recommendations inspite that the law provide for a reporting system.
I stronly belief that the reporting line of SHO should be reviewed.SHO SHOULD REPORT TO THE CEO IF IN LAW THEY ARE BOTH ACCOUNABLE FOR ACCIDENT OCCURENCE.
THANK YOU MR. PILLAI FOR YOUR COMMENTS
From Mauritius, Vacoas
The case mentioned by MR.PTRC at Baroda have lot of administrative and legal implications.
As Mr.Kesava rightly pin out there are no an standard approach of reporting or making recommendations inspite that the law provide for a reporting system.
I stronly belief that the reporting line of SHO should be reviewed.SHO SHOULD REPORT TO THE CEO IF IN LAW THEY ARE BOTH ACCOUNABLE FOR ACCIDENT OCCURENCE.
THANK YOU MR. PILLAI FOR YOUR COMMENTS
From Mauritius, Vacoas
Dear Abhay,
I always find something intersting in your posts which makes me happy too.
You may check with the statutes. No where it states that safety of the industry is vested with Safety Officer. You have to deal with the top brass for absolute responsibility for safety of his industry is vested only with him. He runs the industry. All others including Safety Officer are under his direction. Because of this now one of the Directors is made answerable for complying with statutory requirements on safety, health and welfare in India. Even appointing a Manager as in the past to escape responsibilty is not possible.
Arresting a Security Officer or safety Officer is only mokery. It may be to pacify the people aroud. In a mass psychology just for peace police have to play many games for chances of riot at accident scenes are quite common. After a few days everything goes normal.
It is better we don’t discuss much about the caliber of a safety officer in India as of now. If he is good at entertaining the Inspector he will be good. With that there will not be any adverse remarks and mangement will also be happy with it.
How often the Inspector really inspects a factory, what he inspects etc. is known to you too. If statutes are enforecd with the spirit of making it; I am sure there will not be any industrial accident at all in India.
Even proper safety education is not provided here. The Post diploma in industrial safety is not the end. You can not make a safety officer with that curriculum. What they learn is not sufficient to shape a competent safety officer. You are right in that respect. Most safety officers require perfect training if they are to do justice to their calling.
Again HRM can not escape responsibility. They have absolute responsibility for choosing the right candidate for the post of S.Officer and for that matter for every post.
I am attaching an incomplete power point presentation with a request to all in the field to complete the presentation. Let us see where we stand. It may take about 25 slides to complete it.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
I always find something intersting in your posts which makes me happy too.
You may check with the statutes. No where it states that safety of the industry is vested with Safety Officer. You have to deal with the top brass for absolute responsibility for safety of his industry is vested only with him. He runs the industry. All others including Safety Officer are under his direction. Because of this now one of the Directors is made answerable for complying with statutory requirements on safety, health and welfare in India. Even appointing a Manager as in the past to escape responsibilty is not possible.
Arresting a Security Officer or safety Officer is only mokery. It may be to pacify the people aroud. In a mass psychology just for peace police have to play many games for chances of riot at accident scenes are quite common. After a few days everything goes normal.
It is better we don’t discuss much about the caliber of a safety officer in India as of now. If he is good at entertaining the Inspector he will be good. With that there will not be any adverse remarks and mangement will also be happy with it.
How often the Inspector really inspects a factory, what he inspects etc. is known to you too. If statutes are enforecd with the spirit of making it; I am sure there will not be any industrial accident at all in India.
Even proper safety education is not provided here. The Post diploma in industrial safety is not the end. You can not make a safety officer with that curriculum. What they learn is not sufficient to shape a competent safety officer. You are right in that respect. Most safety officers require perfect training if they are to do justice to their calling.
Again HRM can not escape responsibility. They have absolute responsibility for choosing the right candidate for the post of S.Officer and for that matter for every post.
I am attaching an incomplete power point presentation with a request to all in the field to complete the presentation. Let us see where we stand. It may take about 25 slides to complete it.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
@ Keshav Pillai
Dear Sir
I tried to go on adding something to the presentation... As you said it's about 25 slide to complete the presentation... Can you re-post the same with eadings, under which we suppose to do brain storming... Or else I don't think any one of in this forum even do a try...
Please give atleast the index upon which we can think further...
From India
Dear Sir
I tried to go on adding something to the presentation... As you said it's about 25 slide to complete the presentation... Can you re-post the same with eadings, under which we suppose to do brain storming... Or else I don't think any one of in this forum even do a try...
Please give atleast the index upon which we can think further...
From India
Dear All,
SHO is a statutory appointment He is 'mini-inspector" whose basic responsibility is to get the F.act implemented.In that sense he is representative of the Factory Inspectorate Still, the law do not require him to submit any confidential report which may give him opportunity to speak out. In some State rules he is not accorded any protection against management wrath if one is fulfilling his legal duty honestly. I knew one case where an SHO was asked to resign and leave. We invited SHOs and had several rounds of discussions to form Safety Professional Association with objective to safeguard interests of SHOs.We got it registered and campaigned with State Govt to provide protection to the SHOs. We presented memorandum to the concerned Minister when we called on him at his office.We also organized a seminar where we invited the then Lab Commissioner and presented the problems faced by SHOs. I was then working as Safety Officer with a Chemical Factory. There is clause of protection in Mode Rules but State Govt had not included. After our efforts Govt agreed and amended the Rules. Then I found that the SHOs are not much interested in organized efforts in safeguarding their interests not the Social interest.Association is defunct now. I hope that incidents like this where SHO is picked up by police and put behind bars-should once again generate interest in SHOs to get organized, discuss the problems and empower themselves
Jagdish Patel
From India, Coimbatore
SHO is a statutory appointment He is 'mini-inspector" whose basic responsibility is to get the F.act implemented.In that sense he is representative of the Factory Inspectorate Still, the law do not require him to submit any confidential report which may give him opportunity to speak out. In some State rules he is not accorded any protection against management wrath if one is fulfilling his legal duty honestly. I knew one case where an SHO was asked to resign and leave. We invited SHOs and had several rounds of discussions to form Safety Professional Association with objective to safeguard interests of SHOs.We got it registered and campaigned with State Govt to provide protection to the SHOs. We presented memorandum to the concerned Minister when we called on him at his office.We also organized a seminar where we invited the then Lab Commissioner and presented the problems faced by SHOs. I was then working as Safety Officer with a Chemical Factory. There is clause of protection in Mode Rules but State Govt had not included. After our efforts Govt agreed and amended the Rules. Then I found that the SHOs are not much interested in organized efforts in safeguarding their interests not the Social interest.Association is defunct now. I hope that incidents like this where SHO is picked up by police and put behind bars-should once again generate interest in SHOs to get organized, discuss the problems and empower themselves
Jagdish Patel
From India, Coimbatore
@ Kesava Sir ,
Thank you very much for explanation . I'll also try to complete presentation.
@ All Seniors ,
Is there any booklet or articles or special notes which guide safety & welfare officer to interprets all sections of factory act -1948 with examples ?
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
Thank you very much for explanation . I'll also try to complete presentation.
@ All Seniors ,
Is there any booklet or articles or special notes which guide safety & welfare officer to interprets all sections of factory act -1948 with examples ?
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
Dear Friends I want to share with you an interesting court case in Mauritius
The Case were lodged in 1999 and the Court judgement were in favour of the injured person
court case
Construction Company V/S INJURED EMPLOYEE (civil case) Source:Defiplus 05/8/2010
DAMAGED PAID TO INJURED PERSON IRS 1,000,000
Background
Accident occurred when the injured person were lifting a door with the help of a Co.Worker .He was knocked by the door and had to remove his testicular
Injured person version.Plaintiff
The Injured person belief that the company occurred because he was not given gloves and other equipments and adequate man power
Witness version
Witness belief that the accident occurred because there was no equipment and only two person were assigned the task of lifting a heavy door upstairs
COMPANY ARGUMENTS
The company argued that it was the duty of the main contractor ( the company was a sub-contrator on a construction site) on site to ensure safety of its employees and that a doctor witness for the company that the injured person already suffered from sterility
COURT JUDGEMENT
The Juge ruled that the company made proof of negligence by assigning the task only two two person instead of four
Moreso he fails to comply with the provisions of OSHA 2005 in respect of PPE and Risk Assessment
LESSON LEARNED( ( my OPinion)
No company is immune
To consider safety aspect before entering in contract
To ensure compliance with law in respect of Personal protective equipment
To consider health aspect at time of recruitment
To conduct risk assessment on tasks and site conditions
To put in place appropriate system of work
To provide appropriate training
I HAVE ANALYSE THIS CASE ON A PPT.UNFORTUNATE I FAIL TO UPLOAD SAME.CAN ANYONE HELP ME .
Regards
From Mauritius, Vacoas
The Case were lodged in 1999 and the Court judgement were in favour of the injured person
court case
Construction Company V/S INJURED EMPLOYEE (civil case) Source:Defiplus 05/8/2010
DAMAGED PAID TO INJURED PERSON IRS 1,000,000
Background
Accident occurred when the injured person were lifting a door with the help of a Co.Worker .He was knocked by the door and had to remove his testicular
Injured person version.Plaintiff
The Injured person belief that the company occurred because he was not given gloves and other equipments and adequate man power
Witness version
Witness belief that the accident occurred because there was no equipment and only two person were assigned the task of lifting a heavy door upstairs
COMPANY ARGUMENTS
The company argued that it was the duty of the main contractor ( the company was a sub-contrator on a construction site) on site to ensure safety of its employees and that a doctor witness for the company that the injured person already suffered from sterility
COURT JUDGEMENT
The Juge ruled that the company made proof of negligence by assigning the task only two two person instead of four
Moreso he fails to comply with the provisions of OSHA 2005 in respect of PPE and Risk Assessment
LESSON LEARNED( ( my OPinion)
No company is immune
To consider safety aspect before entering in contract
To ensure compliance with law in respect of Personal protective equipment
To consider health aspect at time of recruitment
To conduct risk assessment on tasks and site conditions
To put in place appropriate system of work
To provide appropriate training
I HAVE ANALYSE THIS CASE ON A PPT.UNFORTUNATE I FAIL TO UPLOAD SAME.CAN ANYONE HELP ME .
Regards
From Mauritius, Vacoas
@Ajay Lachman
Dear Sir
You can easily upload files. Just try the following steps:
1. Click the manage attainents below the space where we are entering matter to post.
2. New window will open with browse option
3. Click browse and select file which you would like to upload. Remember the maximum file size will be 10mb and the supportive file type mentioned in the newly appear window itself.
4. Click uplodad after selecting file
5. After uploading close this window.
6. File is now attached. Type message. Click submit.
Hope this will help you in uploading files... If facing any further problems pls let me know.
From India
Dear Sir
You can easily upload files. Just try the following steps:
1. Click the manage attainents below the space where we are entering matter to post.
2. New window will open with browse option
3. Click browse and select file which you would like to upload. Remember the maximum file size will be 10mb and the supportive file type mentioned in the newly appear window itself.
4. Click uplodad after selecting file
5. After uploading close this window.
6. File is now attached. Type message. Click submit.
Hope this will help you in uploading files... If facing any further problems pls let me know.
From India
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