This is nothing new.
There are also consultancies who charge both the company and the candidate. This was a prevailing practise earlier, though not so common now.
In this case, I think the HR guys are to blame. I have received calls from consultants promising to pay me a percentage of their billing for each candidate of theirs my organization selected. When I refused, he increased the percentage. When I indicated that we don't work on those terms with anyone having those standards, he profusely apologised and said that he just started his business and adopted this method because the HR of the last company he approached demanded a payoff. We did not engage him at all.
Most recently I received an email from another consultant on similar lines also asking me details of candidates who I was getting directly. This person used the term - "let us share the wealth" or something to that effect.
Don't bother blaming a consultant - if you want, you can say no. The choice is ours. When you agree to it, you are the one committing the crime - not the consultant.
Regards
Ryan
Regards
From India, Mumbai
89There are also consultancies who charge both the company and the candidate. This was a prevailing practise earlier, though not so common now.
In this case, I think the HR guys are to blame. I have received calls from consultants promising to pay me a percentage of their billing for each candidate of theirs my organization selected. When I refused, he increased the percentage. When I indicated that we don't work on those terms with anyone having those standards, he profusely apologised and said that he just started his business and adopted this method because the HR of the last company he approached demanded a payoff. We did not engage him at all.
Most recently I received an email from another consultant on similar lines also asking me details of candidates who I was getting directly. This person used the term - "let us share the wealth" or something to that effect.
Don't bother blaming a consultant - if you want, you can say no. The choice is ours. When you agree to it, you are the one committing the crime - not the consultant.
Regards
Ryan
Regards
From India, Mumbai
Just because of few corrupt HR’s the rest HR’s get a bad name.... I too work as an HR and we do not follow the " Back Door Entry " at all... Regards, Joylyn
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Hai Frends,
This is indeed a serious topic to discuss.But as said by a movie star in a latest film I saw " Corruption is Everywhere,especially in India".Just tell me the name of the department(public sector / private ) which doesn't has corruption. Just because they are some individuals doing corruption, don't get over emotional and start to blame the whole of HR dept.
I have seen the best,bad and ugly in HR dept. and i sincerely feel that the situation is not so bad.I work for a product development company where Iam proud to say don't assort to those kind of rubbish acts.
Its the responsibility of our HR guys (gals as well) to be principled and put a fullstop to such kind of menace.
Ravi
From India, Vijayawada
This is indeed a serious topic to discuss.But as said by a movie star in a latest film I saw " Corruption is Everywhere,especially in India".Just tell me the name of the department(public sector / private ) which doesn't has corruption. Just because they are some individuals doing corruption, don't get over emotional and start to blame the whole of HR dept.
I have seen the best,bad and ugly in HR dept. and i sincerely feel that the situation is not so bad.I work for a product development company where Iam proud to say don't assort to those kind of rubbish acts.
Its the responsibility of our HR guys (gals as well) to be principled and put a fullstop to such kind of menace.
Ravi
From India, Vijayawada
Yes Its true,
I too was offered 25% of CTC for the selection of the candidates from some consultants which I politely refused. We cant compromise with the quality candidates just for few EASY MONEY
AMIT GOYAL
From India, Delhi
I too was offered 25% of CTC for the selection of the candidates from some consultants which I politely refused. We cant compromise with the quality candidates just for few EASY MONEY
AMIT GOYAL
From India, Delhi
The best thing is that we must source candidates on our own... The last option must be through consultants... Joylyn
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Experience of a senior HR Manager who is not a member here:
She had recently joined this fast growing organisation, relocating to Gurgaon from another city. Two months into the job she was discussing vendor development (shortlisting recruiters) budgets with her top management and sensed that the top management KNEW TOO MUCH ABOUT SOME EXISTING VENDORS and had GOOD WORDS to say about them. Within a few hours of this meeting, many of the recruiting agency heads CASUALLY called up and CASUALLY asked for an appointment. She met a few who apparently KNEW TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE TOP MANAGEMENT MEETING!
So she hereby sends the message to CiteHR members: Look upwards to find the source of corruption
Within weeks, she had also seen that some of her staff were CASUALLY promoting one or the other vendor in the course of other discussions. Looking closely, she could make out invisible channels between her department and some vendors.
So another message for her: To find corruption, look inwards and sideways.
She also noticed that these vendors had their friends among the security, reception, accounts, even housekeeping!
So her message is: For locating corruption, search the nooks and the crannies.
Now she is waiting to be approached by vendors to become their next FRIEND.
Her cry is: HELP ME.
From India, Mumbai
She had recently joined this fast growing organisation, relocating to Gurgaon from another city. Two months into the job she was discussing vendor development (shortlisting recruiters) budgets with her top management and sensed that the top management KNEW TOO MUCH ABOUT SOME EXISTING VENDORS and had GOOD WORDS to say about them. Within a few hours of this meeting, many of the recruiting agency heads CASUALLY called up and CASUALLY asked for an appointment. She met a few who apparently KNEW TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE TOP MANAGEMENT MEETING!
So she hereby sends the message to CiteHR members: Look upwards to find the source of corruption
Within weeks, she had also seen that some of her staff were CASUALLY promoting one or the other vendor in the course of other discussions. Looking closely, she could make out invisible channels between her department and some vendors.
So another message for her: To find corruption, look inwards and sideways.
She also noticed that these vendors had their friends among the security, reception, accounts, even housekeeping!
So her message is: For locating corruption, search the nooks and the crannies.
Now she is waiting to be approached by vendors to become their next FRIEND.
Her cry is: HELP ME.
From India, Mumbai
Hi eclexys,
If her cry is really "help me"...
why does she not resign? (possibly she has some financial constraints).
If she is uncomfortable there, she should make the attempt to move out. This should be somewhat easy since she has relocated there, she can always relocate back to where she came from. Or to another city. There is no shortage of HR openings in Mumbai, Pune, Chennai or Hyderabad.
If you are her friend, take her cv and help her to get a job somewhere, post it here, use a network like LinkedIn or Joso, send it to someone YOU trust if she is afraid to send her cv out.
Regards
Ryan
From India, Mumbai
If her cry is really "help me"...
why does she not resign? (possibly she has some financial constraints).
If she is uncomfortable there, she should make the attempt to move out. This should be somewhat easy since she has relocated there, she can always relocate back to where she came from. Or to another city. There is no shortage of HR openings in Mumbai, Pune, Chennai or Hyderabad.
If you are her friend, take her cv and help her to get a job somewhere, post it here, use a network like LinkedIn or Joso, send it to someone YOU trust if she is afraid to send her cv out.
Regards
Ryan
From India, Mumbai
Hi Ryan,
You miss the point. The lady is a fighter and wants to fight. She does not want to chicken out. The help she needs is in terms of ways and means she can employ to fight it out. And maybe some moral support...
In any case she would not need support to find a job.
Thanks
A R Eclexys
From India, Mumbai
You miss the point. The lady is a fighter and wants to fight. She does not want to chicken out. The help she needs is in terms of ways and means she can employ to fight it out. And maybe some moral support...
In any case she would not need support to find a job.
Thanks
A R Eclexys
From India, Mumbai
Hi guys
It is really wonderful discussion. it is every where. we have to chose a right way to go. blamming others is not a correct way.
Any how thanks for sharing
regards
malladi_alps :lol: :lol: :lol:
From India, Madras
It is really wonderful discussion. it is every where. we have to chose a right way to go. blamming others is not a correct way.
Any how thanks for sharing
regards
malladi_alps :lol: :lol: :lol:
From India, Madras
Not all HR are corrupt. I have personally been offered paybacks from consultants if I recruit their candidates. I always smile and tell them in a straight way to take a walk. If they want to work with our company they need to perform not bribe around.
These things are getting more and more practical it is up to us the HR community to pull our sleeves up and tackle the issues.
From India
These things are getting more and more practical it is up to us the HR community to pull our sleeves up and tackle the issues.
From India
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